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[humaneatingmonkey]

My head still feels like it's about to split so I would appreciate the courtesy. Thank you.

[Venus and Mars]

Why wouldn’t he disclose it? Why would my jk claim influence that?

Why would scum!nm have any incentive to disclose using pain potions and give that information to the town?

Can you stop talking to me like I'm lying through my teeth and just engage my thoughts? There's nothing to be gained doing that. You're just making me dislike talking to you. I'm pretty reasonable. If you're scum, you're not gonna be able to pocket me this way and I'm already very discredited anyway. If you're town, you're just turning this conversation unproductive.

I’m currently voting you, in what world do you get pocket from that?

Why are you even asking me that? I’m saying that he claimed to have used the pain potions. I’m not calling him scum.

I’m saying that he’s probably telling the truth about that and since I jk’d him, you saying no one targeted me isn’t provable since he did claim to use one.

And if he didn’t use it on us, that has jack to do with our alignment anyway, so no I find your reasoning for using harmography on us difficult to believe, especially considering your conclusion.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm saying nm telling us that he used pain potions even when he already knows he was jk'd was probably town indicative because it's volunteering information that isn't necessary and i have this impression that nm as scum would probably withhold information that wouldn't make him look like he's town. blanketly saying he used pain potions doesn't look good especially if he's widely scumread.

i used harmography on you because i believed you're very obviously town and it would probably be very hard to kill you in the day. scum would choose to do it in the night.
that nm is the only one who would in a hypothetical nm-inclusive scum team doesn't make much sense to me.

[humaneatingmonkey]

am i talking to the other head? can i talk to nancy instead, she's nicer to talk to.

[humaneatingmonkey]

well not nicer. i'd say less aggressive.

i don't really respond well to being called a liar so if you're town, maybe nancy's kinder tone while we discuss this might just be enough to bring my townread back.

[Venus and Mars]

That goes to everyone. Just talk to me nicely.

My head still feels like it's about to split so I would appreciate the courtesy. Thank you.

I don’t see how I’m not being “nice” here by being unconvinced by your reasoning but I’m sorry you’re not feeling well and I hope you feel better soon.

What I am saying is that your claim I wasn’t targeted isn’t provable because I jk’d NM.

I believe he told the truth about using a pain potion.

No where in any of my posts today did I call him scum, so you are clearly misconstruing my posting.

If he used his pain potion on anyone other than me and your results that no one targeted us with pain potion is actually accurate, your reasons for using harmography on us seem questionable at best because I already explained that it is not true that we were a universal townread and your conclusions wrt your changed view on our alignment make absolutely no sense.

~M

[Venus and Mars]

i'm saying nm telling us that he used pain potions even when he already knows he was jk'd was probably town indicative because it's volunteering information that isn't necessary and i have this impression that nm as scum would probably withhold information that wouldn't make him look like he's town. blanketly saying he used pain potions doesn't look good especially if he's widely scumread.

i used harmography on you because i believed you're very obviously town and it would probably be very hard to kill you in the day. scum would choose to do it in the night.
that nm is the only one who would in a hypothetical nm-inclusive scum team doesn't make much sense to me.

Again, I am not calling him scum.

[humaneatingmonkey]

...so you're not scumreading nm? i thought that was your whole deal. why did you jk nm?

[Venus and Mars]

...so you're not scumreading nm? i thought that was your whole deal. why did you jk nm?

Because he was deathtunnelled us all through d1 on our slot and I figured if anyone were to use a pain potion on us, it would be him if he had one and since STD claimed to have jk’d Kitty, if NM did use his pain potion on us, we for sure would be 100% dead tonight, if not for our jk on him.

[humaneatingmonkey]

so if you don't scumread nm, then an entire scum team that's not nm chose to not use a pain potion on you and that's why i think it's suspicious because like i said, i would imagine you're a threat to scum if town.

[humaneatingmonkey]

dwlee had that thing about going wide and maybe that's the counternarrative to what i'm saying right now. what was that about?

[Venus and Mars]

...so you're not scumreading nm? i thought that was your whole deal. why did you jk nm?

Because he was deathtunnelled us all through d1 on our slot and I figured if anyone were to use a pain potion on us, it would be him if he had one and since STD claimed to have jk’d Kitty, if NM did use his pain potion on us, we for sure would be 100% dead tonight, if not for our jk on him.

If he used it on us that is but I don’t see why his read on us would change between d1 and n1, do you? So sure he could have potentially targeted someone other than me but that’s highly unlikely. That’s why I find both your reasons for using harmography on us and especially your conclusions to be extremely suss and probably not even accurate due to our jk on NM. But even if NM didn’t target us with his pain potion, you switching your read on us for the reasons you gave extremely suss.

[humaneatingmonkey]

so you think nm could have targetted you, and this might mean nm is the scum team member that targetted you and i should have known this so im sus? but i dont think nm is scum at all, see.

[humaneatingmonkey]

your read is making little and little sense to me. is it making little and little sense to you as well?

[Venus and Mars]

so if you don't scumread nm, then an entire scum team that's not nm chose to not use a pain potion on you and that's why i think it's suspicious because like i said, i would imagine you're a threat to scum if town.

According to what you said and all of the claims if true, mean that no one could have targeted us other than NM but if we die tonight then maybe they’re not all true but as I said to Enchant, none of the claims contradict each other, so I’m not going to question their validity unless I have a reason to but if we die tonight, then it’s possible somebody lied.

[Venus and Mars]

so you think nm could have targetted you, and this might mean nm is the scum team member that targetted you and i should have known this so im sus? but i dont think nm is scum at all, see.

Are you not reading my posts or are you actually misrepping me?

I am saying that I think YOU’RE suss and it looks like your twisting my words.

[humaneatingmonkey]

@mod

will the potion be spent if the user was jailed instead?

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm repeating it so that you can clarify actually

[Venus and Mars]

your read is making little and little sense to me. is it making little and little sense to you as well?

What isn’t making sense is your INTERPRETATION of my posts. I think I’m being extremely clear.

[humaneatingmonkey]

good faith only. it seems like we finally have a good thing going on here. no reason to rock the boat.

[humaneatingmonkey]

so you think nm could have targetted you, and this might mean nm is the scum team member that targetted you and i should have known this so im sus? but i dont think nm is scum at all, see.

Are you not reading my posts or are you actually misrepping me?

I am saying that I think YOU’RE suss and it looks like your twisting my words.

yeah, that's what i said. you think im sus that i didn't conclude nm was the scum team member that targetted you from my pov. right?

[Venus and Mars]

i'm repeating it so that you can clarify actually

I’m saying that your reasoning for using harmography on us to determine our alignment makes little sense. especially since we were in no way a universal tr on d1.

But your conclusion of why you no longer obvtown read us based on your results are whack and not even provable.

It reads to me that because as Enchant has stated we’re likely healthy, scum can’t easily kill us tonight because of our jk.

[Venus and Mars]

so you think nm could have targetted you, and this might mean nm is the scum team member that targetted you and i should have known this so im sus? but i dont think nm is scum at all, see.

Are you not reading my posts or are you actually misrepping me?

I am saying that I think YOU’RE suss and it looks like your twisting my words.

yeah, that's what i said. you think im sus that i didn't conclude nm was the scum team member that targetted you from my pov. right?

I think you’re suss because your reasoning for using harmography on us make little sense and your conclusions on that are ridiculous regardless of who NM used his pain potion on and also unprovable because of our jk.

If you’re going to continue to misrep my posting, this conversation is pointless.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Gamma Emerald - townreads you d1
Venus and Mars (Nancy Drew 39 & Shiro)Nancy Sinatra - you
Flea The Magician - townreads you d1
Enchant - idk
Facebones - dead
KittyTacky - sides with you in std vs nancy
Not_Mafia - scumreads you
Dwlee99 - thinks it's possible you are scum
Save The Dragons - scumreads you
humaneatingmonkey - townreads you
Roden - townreads you

this is my tally. is this wrong?

[Venus and Mars]

How many times do I need to repeat myself? I am NOT calling NM scum!