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[humaneatingmonkey]

so you think nm could have targetted you, and this might mean nm is the scum team member that targetted you and i should have known this so im sus? but i dont think nm is scum at all, see.

Are you not reading my posts or are you actually misrepping me?

I am saying that I think YOU’RE suss and it looks like your twisting my words.

yeah, that's what i said. you think im sus that i didn't conclude nm was the scum team member that targetted you from my pov. right?

I think you’re suss because your reasoning for using harmography on us make little sense and your conclusions on that are ridiculous regardless of who NM used his pain potion on and also unprovable because of our jk.

If you’re going to continue to misrep my posting, this conversation is pointless.

no it's not pointless my read is improving actually. continue to engage me. i promise im not trying to misrep you.

[Venus and Mars]

Gamma Emerald - townreads you d1
Venus and Mars (Nancy Drew 39 & Shiro)Nancy Sinatra - you
Flea The Magician - townreads you d1
Enchant - idk
Facebones - dead
KittyTacky - sides with you in std vs nancy

Not_Mafia - scumreads you
Dwlee99 - thinks it's possible you are scum
Save The Dragons - scumreads you

humaneatingmonkey - townreads you
Roden - townreads you

this is my tally. is this wrong?

Yes, I agree with this, so you have 3 players who wouldn’t have agreed your assessment that we’re a “universal tr”

So A) this disproves that we were a “universal tr on N1”.

And even if you actually did believe this:

B) your conclusion that no one targeted us because of our jk on NM is unprovable.

C) even if he didn’t target us, that shouldn’t affect your read on us.

D) You using harmography on us when you know there’s one player who hard sr us and had every incentive to use a pain potion on us, makes you choosing us as the target extremely suss because had we not had jk, you had every reason to think that NM was most likely to target us with a pain potion if he had one.

So I think you targeted us to determine if NM used a pain potion on us and had it not been blocked, scum would then logically conclude that we only had 1 hp. Then when we die you can push NM for killing us.

That is my current take. And your questionable claimed, reasoning for targeting us, your ridiculous as well as unprovable conclusions and now your continued repeated misrepping of my posts make me think you’re greater > rand chance of being scum here.

[Venus and Mars]

am i talking to the other head? can i talk to nancy instead, she's nicer to talk to.

well not nicer. i'd say less aggressive.

i don't really respond well to being called a liar so if you're town, maybe nancy's kinder tone while we discuss this might just be enough to bring my townread back.

This is Nancy, Shiro is the nice one.

[humaneatingmonkey]

hmm hmm hmm

thanks im okay to move on from this conversation

gamma, dwlee, std — i have something to run by the three of you. quote this if you get on so i know that you're here.

[Venus and Mars]

am i talking to the other head? can i talk to nancy instead, she's nicer to talk to.

well not nicer. i'd say less aggressive.

i don't really respond well to being called a liar so if you're town, maybe nancy's kinder tone while we discuss this might just be enough to bring my townread back.

This is Nancy, Shiro is the nice one.

I also don’t think I’m even being not nice here. How am I even being rude to you? I think I’m being very respectful?

[humaneatingmonkey]

yeah you are

[Venus and Mars]

yeah you are

How am being rude? I criticized your takes, that isn’t rude.

[humaneatingmonkey]

yeah you are being very respectful

[Venus and Mars]

If sorry that you’re offended by my tone but it’s extremely aggravating to have to keep repeating myself when I think I’ve been extremely clear.

[Venus and Mars]

yeah you are being very respectful

Oh then sorry, I misunderstood.

[humaneatingmonkey]

im just trying to understand and im reflecting what I've understood so you have the chance to tell me what's wrong and what you choose to say after that improves my read so thank you.

[Venus and Mars]

im just trying to understand and im reflecting what I've understood so you have the chance to tell me what's wrong and what you choose to say after that improves my read so thank you.

You’re welcome then.

[Enchant]

...so you're not scumreading nm? i thought that was your whole deal. why did you jk nm?

Because he was deathtunnelled us all through d1 on our slot and I figured if anyone were to use a pain potion on us, it would be him if he had one and since STD claimed to have jk’d Kitty, if NM did use his pain potion on us, we for sure would be 100% dead tonight, if not for our jk on him.

Wasting power to waste power.

[Venus and Mars]

...so you're not scumreading nm? i thought that was your whole deal. why did you jk nm?

Because he was deathtunnelled us all through d1 on our slot and I figured if anyone were to use a pain potion on us, it would be him if he had one and since STD claimed to have jk’d Kitty, if NM did use his pain potion on us, we for sure would be 100% dead tonight, if not for our jk on him.

Wasting power to waste power.

Who? NM or us?

Since NM did in fact claim to have used a pain potion and based off of his deathtunnelling us d1, I do not understand this at all if you’re meaning us.

If NM had used his pain potion on us, we’d be down to only 1 hp, making it a slam dunk for scum to kill us tonight.

[Venus and Mars]

So if NM did use his pain potion on us, then using our jk on him was clearly the right choice.

[Enchant]

Not really if you then die at day afterwards.

[Venus and Mars]

Not really if you then die at day afterwards.

I don’t see why we’d die today? but if not for our jk, if NM did in fact use the jk on us, we’d almost certainly die tonight, so your point only makes sense if we were more likely to be miselimed than nk’d and I think without our jk, we’d very likely be nk’d.

[Gamma Emerald]

...so you're not scumreading nm? i thought that was your whole deal. why did you jk nm?

Because he was deathtunnelled us all through d1 on our slot and I figured if anyone were to use a pain potion on us, it would be him if he had one and since STD claimed to have jk’d Kitty, if NM did use his pain potion on us, we for sure would be 100% dead tonight, if not for our jk on him.

???
I believe it takes 2 pain pots to kill

[Gamma Emerald]

hmm hmm hmm

thanks im okay to move on from this conversation

gamma, dwlee, std — i have something to run by the three of you. quote this if you get on so i know that you're here.

Yeah I’m on?

[humaneatingmonkey]

sorry im about to sleep! lol i wish i can stay! I'll be on in another 8 hours

[Gamma Emerald]

:/

[Save The Dragons]

hmm hmm hmm

thanks im okay to move on from this conversation

gamma, dwlee, std — i have something to run by the three of you. quote this if you get on so i know that you're here.

?

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: kittytacky still willing to do this

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay ill stay up.

i think v&m is scum and not all three (or four including v&m) of you can be scum. i chose to talk to you because i found you the most reasonable ones to talk to that won't immediately call me scum and can spot the flaws to my reasoning as it occurs or validate me when i hit the right spot.

my thing rests upon nm not being scum. i think v&m not being sent any potions by the scum team last night points towards them being scum because they've been universally townread (or mostly, whatever. semantics.) and thus hard to kill off during the day. regardless who nm targets, if they're not scum it shouldn't matter because an entire scum team didn't try and pain potion v&m.

i'm gonna point you towards our recent interaction and without describing it and trying to color it in anyway that could influence your take on it — what do you think about it?

[Save The Dragons]

you spend some time talking about whether or not v and m are universally townread and convos like that make my eyes roll back in my head and my brain check out

i agree v&m would be hard to kill during the day tho. but i'm not sure that that makes them scum's target for the night. scum could have spread out the pain potions or did drink more potions to be able to do more potions. like kitty could have done DMP and 2 pain potions on someone but they were blocked. or scum could have done a pain potion on someone and a pain potion on someone else, and tomorrow they're going to massacre us.

i gotta go i will think about it more later