Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Titus]

VOTE: Implosion

If this gets to L minus 2, I'm "hammering".

Sorry HQ but we are not getting demotivated because Math can't spam what he wants.

[MathBlade]

You supposedly scumread both Ari and me yet you’ll do a wagon we both want?

No that doesn’t make sense.

I'm about theories. I have two competing theories.

1) You and Ari
2) Implo and StD

Either, you can vote my townreads and I eliminate you or we can agree. If you flip town, then I'll be able to get a scum. So frankly, I don't give a damn unless you have real good reasons.

Or we eliminate you. I am okay with that

You won’t let me play and I am conf at this point so you are stopping me from playing the game

So if you’re not scum you might as well be

You can play. You have almost 200 more posts than the nearest player.

You aren't conftown. FFS.

Even if you are town, your reads are so easy to manipulate that everyone knows how to do it.

The reason I have that many posts is 3/4ths of them are responses to your bullshit like this one

I play conversationally with people

I literally cannot do that in this game with you posting something new I have to do every three seconds

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Implosion

If this gets to L minus 2, I'm "hammering".

Sorry HQ but we are not getting demotivated because Math can't spam what he wants.

For fucks sake I was having a conversation with Ari before you interrupted it

[Aristeia]

maybe it would be good if mathblade / titus take a short break so other people can post a bit <3 you both

[Titus]

You supposedly scumread both Ari and me yet you’ll do a wagon we both want?

No that doesn’t make sense.

I'm about theories. I have two competing theories.

1) You and Ari
2) Implo and StD

Either, you can vote my townreads and I eliminate you or we can agree. If you flip town, then I'll be able to get a scum. So frankly, I don't give a damn unless you have real good reasons.

Or we eliminate you. I am okay with that

You won’t let me play and I am conf at this point so you are stopping me from playing the game

So if you’re not scum you might as well be

You can play. You have almost 200 more posts than the nearest player.

You aren't conftown. FFS.

Even if you are town, your reads are so easy to manipulate that everyone knows how to do it.

The reason I have that many posts is 3/4ths of them are responses to your bullshit like this one

I play conversationally with people

I literally cannot do that in this game with you posting something new I have to do every three seconds

Then, guess what. You don't have to interrupt everything I do. This isn't a fucking contest of wills. You ignore me. I ignore you, unless game health gets super bad or town are in actual danger.

This gamestate where you spam up a storm drives people away from the site.

[MathBlade]

maybe it would be good if mathblade / titus take a short break so other people can post a bit <3 you both

I’d love to and suggested a 24 hour one

But if Titus spams I am scum I will respond I have to

[Aristeia]

this feels like really heated and kind of spammy between you two.

I think we're winning and scum are in a very uncomfortable position so keeping the thread clear for a bit can help us find the last town pieces we need to lock up this game.

[Aristeia]

i don't think it's protown to rush an elim. that's usually a good way to lose a good start - I don't think Titus will try to speedlim you.

Just calm down let's take some time and let other people talk

[MathBlade]

this feels like really heated and kind of spammy between you two.

I think we're winning and scum are in a very uncomfortable position so keeping the thread clear for a bit can help us find the last town pieces we need to lock up this game.

I feel that Titus is scum and this is a big distraction

If implosion flips town I want Titus

[Aristeia]

ok sure but did you actually read the section I asked you to read where Titus really put the heat on HEM early and he responded in a way that read very unaligned with her?

It's kind of important to my read on her.

[Titus]

maybe it would be good if mathblade / titus take a short break so other people can post a bit <3 you both

Great. Maybe you can talk some sense into him that maybe playing "conversationally" means others need to talk and that he's impossible to sort when whining about lack of reads or trying to shove down the recent person to vote him.

Every single one of his reads voted him today. Ausuka wasn't even on his radar until she voted him.

This is unsufferable Math.

I long for the day of reasonable posting town!Math but I may be 40 before I see that.

[MathBlade]

ok sure but did you actually read the section I asked you to read where Titus really put the heat on HEM early and he responded in a way that read very unaligned with her?

It's kind of important to my read on her.

Nope

Never got time because anytime I tried Titus posted BS that needed correction

And to be frank I am at the point I don’t care unless she actually shuts up to give me time

[Aristeia]

aww cmon he's just emotional sometimes - i think he does mean well.

i think we can get to a point where we can get you two to townread each other ^_^

I fight with my brother all the time too

[Titus]

aww cmon he's just emotional sometimes - i think he does mean well.

i think we can get to a point where we can get you two to townread each other ^_^

I fight with my brother all the time too

*shrug* I've considered the possibility.

There are two worlds. If he wants my townreads, I have no qualms killing him since he makes games unplayable. If he's town, he can vote possible scum or back off for the same 24 hours he wants of me.

[Aristeia]

i think he's said he'll back off if you back off let's just relax there's other people playing too ^_^

[Titus]

i think he's said he'll back off if you back off let's just relax there's other people playing too ^_^

Then when he confirms he agrees, I'm gone.

But I don't want to hear any more nonsense from him when he gets back.

[MathBlade]

i think he's said he'll back off if you back off let's just relax there's other people playing too ^_^

Correct

I want to celebrate a personal goal tomorrow and not think about mafia

[Aristeia]

congrats on your personal goal!

[implosion]

Titus's reads are attrocious.

People calling me scum here have a serious deficiency of understanding of my meta. Like, I have had plenty of town games where I've thought it'd be reasonable to scumread me, but I really feel like I'm way outside my scum range in this game. But I know there's no reason to harp on that.

This day is frustrating because I really like every part of Aristeia's play this game except for her suspicion of me (and maybe the strength of her Math read but I understand having it), and I want to work with her on things that are actually productive instead of miseliminating me, but past experience makes me feel like if I try to work with her from this situation it's just going to make things worse. It feels like there's like no angle into the game to actually reason with the most important parts of the player list right now.

[Aristeia]

I'm happy to work with you but you have to actually case and push someone

[Aristeia]

I do recognize I can be horribly wrong on you and I will be going over a lot of things in my reread

[implosion]

I'm working through things and you can see me working through things.

[implosion]

Part of the issue is that I still think Enchant has lots of scum equity, and if that's correct then it's 1/11 for the remaining scum.

I would be thrilled to push them though, you'd mentioned potentially being willing.

[implosion]

Like, me having a scumread that I have any confidence in at

all

is really quite uncommon on d1 I think. HEM was probably one of the most confident d1 scumreads I've had in a long time, though that's not to say it was a particularly confident scumread by most people's standards (notwithstanding Titus and Math's standards of seeming 100% certainty...)

The people ostensibly at the bottom of my reads list right now are Enchant, who is awkward to case+push for obvious reasons (though I'll happily do it if I think there's a chance of it working) and Math who I really still don't have any confidence on. I can give like, an elaborate breakdown of how I feel about Math if that helps. It wouldn't be a case exactly, it'd be a "here's a summary of why I'm conflicted". I feel like he has more scum equity than anyone else other than Enchant right now but it's not like, much above baseline, ostensibly.

[Harley Quinn]

like saying me/hem is s/s after the fight we had d1 is just too moonlogik for me to believe scum!her came up with that

Yeah, that theory’s absurd.

I’m convinced that there’s one scum on his wagon that he set up to look obvtown after he flipped. I have no idea whom yet but find it unlikely he didn’t tell at least one buddy to bus him once he knew he was going down.

In a perfect world, one on math, one on hem and one off

I know you’re obviously joking since that’s impossible.