Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.03

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-06-21 15:30:00).

yeet

MathBlade [3]:

Ausuka, Save The Dragons, Roden

implosion [1]:

Aristeia

Ausuka [1]:

MathBlade

not voting [8]:

implosion, Harley Quinn, Gamma Emerald, Wallflower, Enchant, Dwlee99, Bellaphant, Titus

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[Aristeia]

Spoiler: For Dats<3

[Harley Quinn]

vote count 1.04

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey [4]:

Aristeia, Roden, Dwlee99, Save The Dragons

Aristeia [3]:

humaneatingmonkey, Bellaphant, Ausuka

Enchant [1]:

implosion

Klick [1]:

Gamma Emerald

not voting [5]:

Harley Quinn, Malakittens, Enchant, Klick, Titus

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vote count 1.05

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey [3]:

Aristeia, Roden, Dwlee99

Dwlee99 [3]:

Ausuka, Save The Dragons, implosion

Aristeia [2]:

humaneatingmonkey, Bellaphant

Klick [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Ausuka [1]:

Titus

not voting [4]:

Harley Quinn, Malakittens, Enchant, Klick

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Talk about Bailing?

StD bails on the HEM wagon to vote Dwlee,

who is likely spewed town from the HEM flip

.

Moving further, next major event is I sub in and StD votes HEM as I fos HEM and Implosion.

vote count 1.09

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey [4]:

Dwlee99, Titus, implosion, Roden

Aristeia [3]:

humaneatingmonkey, Bellaphant, MathBlade

MathBlade [2]:

Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons

Dwlee99 [1]:

Ausuka

not voting [4]:

Harley Quinn, Malakittens, Enchant, Aristeia

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Mathblade comes up. StD votes him. He flirts back to HEM but comes back to Math.

If you want your scummy voter on you Math, this is it if you're town.

You could possibly be on to something, idk but yeah Dwlee likely town for a lot of reasons. If there is scum on Math wagon, he is the only possibility imo.

See I know what Roden said and I obviously could just be paranoid but while STD isn’t necessarily terrible at reading me, he doesn’t usually confidently tr me straight out of the gate like that but none of his posts ping me especially.

I know I’m being pretty waffley today so it’s more like I have null reads rather than srs rn. Wrt sincerity, STD is lower on the sincerity scale for me than Ausuka.

Also, I have gotten wrongly sr plenty of times for being wrong town. I liked Wallflower’s entrance and her readslist so idk.

[implosion]

I have no fucking idea why i'm viably a lim candidate in Titus's mind when Math is claimed vanilla jailkeep target.

Like people [read: titus and mathblade] are talking like my flip is half certain to be scum and i have no idea where that's coming from.

We lim Math. Math agrees we lim Math. It's patently obviously the correct move here. Yeah he might flip town. It's still the correct move. We don't need to rush it, either. It's been what, a handful of hours sinice the JK claim. Calm down.

[implosion]

There is ostensibly no world where Ausuka claims jailkeeper right now as scum. Tons of other plays for them as scum - claim JK later, claim tracker (paired with JK) later, etc. Them claiming JK at 2:11 as scum is throwing the game to the wolves 100% of the time, there won't be any way to explain why people other than them keep getting shot (that said: if there is a doctor, they should be on Ausuka, obviously, and probably Roden should be too but not 100%).

[Wallflower]

I'm really just waiting on Enchant at this point.

All the other stuff is largely irrelevant imo

[implosion]

I'm gonna be pretty mad at a lot of people if math/enchant is the scumteam. mostly datisi tbh

[Harley Quinn]

Without even seeing the other slots, Dwlee's vote stands out to me because it started out as a sheep on Ari because of how impressed they were of Ari's game.

I think HEM asked why I voted him — Last time I saw Aristeia like this she nailed Prism into a coffin. She gets my baa privilege until I have more effort into sorting personally

Be back later

I noticed it because it immediately implies Ari is town. So maybe this is Dwlee's first read? But we really didn't see much of a progression on why they thought Ari is town.

I can forgive that.

what do you think about dwlee

what do you think about HQ coming in to kind of soflty defend dwlee only

FMPOV HQ looks town for this

This is Dwlee's second read. If you squint really hard, you can almost see that it's a pocket.

But maybe that doesn't mean they're not town.

However things really break down when Math comes down hard at Dwlee. Dwlee immediately launches an OMGUS but uncharacteristically doesn't vote Math. (ignoring the urge too, they say.) I can understand if they would OMGUS as town, but what I can't understand is why they wouldn't move their vote towards Math to sort and to pressure when I'd be absent for a long time.

Now that's not town. Town wants to use their vote to pressure. Even as they approach 100% certainty, Dwlee doesn't move their vote.

I really feel Dwlee is scum.

Titus hasn’t given a reason other than “matching” and “trying”

I don’t see that here from them.

That has to be BS because you only think I'm scum rn because of things that aren't there rather than things that are. So you can't be that confident of anything

this is also a BS response from them.

MathBlade and HEM probably are SvS

Math just ignored my response to his terrible read on me

And this read was made without due consideration for what motive would scum!mathblade have for defending scum!me.

If I'm scum and Mathblade is scum, why risk their neck on protecting a buddy that has no way of defending themselves for 3 days when you score easy deepwolf points trying to woo people's confidence in you?

Here's what I'm thinking: They made the SvS read so they can still park their vote on me
And they did it without developing their read on anyone other than slots who they were 1. sheeping, 2. encouraging to townread them 3. omgusing. without regard

VOTE: Dwlee99

My vote can change as I ISO the rest of my wagon (and the rest of the game)

HEM voted here

HEM also has just two votes Ari and Dwlee
Let me build a VC at that point.

Yeah, Dwlee pretty much cleared by this imo. First HEM tries to run up Ari, than Dwlee. This isn’t theatre, HEM was very clearly trying to run them up, so maybe add Dwlee to my locktown group for this. I didn’t realize how hard HEM had pushed them.

[Harley Quinn]

Can we just stop Math? You're spending 5 posts to say what can be done in one if you slowed down and organized your thoughts. Spoilers are your friends. You're not even willing to entertain the opinions of anyone else here.

I am meeting you half way by discussing worlds where you aren't scum. Anytime I try to talk to you, I get melodrama, grunts for reads or oppositional reads where you just push random people who have voted for you.

We can vote Implosion today since we both agree he's scum.

Then we can bitch about who we lim tomorrow.

Spoiler: possibilities

It will be in you, StD, or Wallflower.

With all due respect Titus, I think you’re being very unfair to Math. D1 he deserved it absolutely but not at all today, please stop.

[Harley Quinn]

Oh wow. I extend a frustrated olive branch and you don't want it solely because I do. Can you just knock it off already?

Pedit: Your consideration of Implosion got ninjaed.

Titus, please knock it off, you’re actually bordering on bullying territory here and it’s making me extremely uncomfortable.

[Harley Quinn]

I thought Roden was on Titus?

Also, math, hq and enchant havent checked in since you posted your proposal.

P-edit people beat me

@dweelee, what do you think about where scum were on the wagons yesterday?

Off MathBlade

Probably. I don’t think scum were trying to save HEM and STD was on the final Math wagon.

[Harley Quinn]

You supposedly scumread both Ari and me yet you’ll do a wagon we both want?

No that doesn’t make sense.

I'm about theories. I have two competing theories.

1) You and Ari
2) Implo and StD

Either, you can vote my townreads and I eliminate you or we can agree. If you flip town, then I'll be able to get a scum. So frankly, I don't give a damn unless you have real good reasons.

Ari is never scum here.

[Harley Quinn]

humaneatingmonkey [6]: Aristeia, Dwlee99, Titus, Save The Dragons, implosion, Roden
Aristeia [2]: humaneatingmonkey, Bellaphant
Dwlee99 [1]: Ausuka
MathBlade[1]: Gamma Emerald

not voting [4]: Harley Quinn, Malakittens, Enchant, MathBlade

Okay yea probably STD or implosion on HEM but I'll have to review how quickly this took off

I just remember it took off very quickly which is weird

Interesting that both were initially on HEM and later off.

Idk but if d1 Math wagon isn’t pure, STD can be the only possibility. The Titus/Math shitfight is making this thread extremely hard to read and it 100% needs to stop because it’s extremely distracting.

[Harley Quinn]

VOTE: Implosion

If this gets to L minus 2, I'm "hammering".

Sorry HQ but we are not getting demotivated because Math can't spam what he wants.

No Titus, we don’t need to rush the day again and this time it’s mainly you not Math who is causing the bulk of the drama.

You are constantly provoking him pretty much non-stop and he isn’t doing anything wrong. D1, 110% but he’s fine today and you’re jumping on him pretty much every post. I honestly don’t think I’d be as calm as him if another player was constantly trying to micromanage my posting.

[Harley Quinn]

maybe it would be good if mathblade / titus take a short break so other people can post a bit <3 you both

+1

[Gamma Emerald]

if the scum team is math+enchant i doubt math spends that much time screaming in the thread becuz he knows a lost cause when he sees one

I think this is not true based on my one experience with scum!Math.

[Gamma Emerald]

What’s really odd is Enchant crumbed reads here that they cop checked me

That’s impossible if I was jailkept

Enchant would get no result

That’s not how JK works???
How have you played as long as you have and you got that wrong?

[Gamma Emerald]

Coordinated attack on me. Titus + A day play fits.

they're attacking you because you're scummy not because they're scum -_-

I am not though.

I am frustrating and annoying but I am not scummy.

They aren’t arguing that I am though.

That’s the crux as to why they are scum.

You were uberscummy on d1, which is why I was so convinced you were scum. When you have time, you might want to reread my case on you, so you can hopefully avoid doing that in the future.

Like you and Ari say that

But I don’t think I was

I have rethought about my play and the only remotely possible scummy thing is going against popular opinion.

But that isn’t scummy

Like I don’t get what is scummy?

You’re kinda right
You are probably scummy for going against popular opinion but it actually felt like it happened in a scummy way

[Gamma Emerald]

If you insist, I'll make it painless as I can.

Then, I'll nail implo and StD if you're town.

If you're scum, I'm still getting Ari.

I am insisting on enchant confirming me as town or not today.

Then tomorrow no you will not push Ari ffs

She’s like top tier town like fuck Titus

uhhh

[Enchant]

What confirmation you want from me?

[Wallflower]

What confirmation you want from me?

All I need to know is, do you have a cop result saying that MathBlade is town?

Just a yes/no answer is fine for me.

(Asking because Ausuka has claimed that they jailkept MathBlade last night)

[Enchant]

No.

[Wallflower]

Awesome, thank you <3

VOTE: MathBlade

[Enchant]

I still think Math is innocent very likely.

[MathBlade]

I still think Math is innocent very likely.

Doesn’t matter

With my elim we learn
>> Doctor has an inno
Or
>> Scum no killed as a gambit
Or
>> Scum killed me

Order of likelihood

I think Titus and Ausuka are scum