Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Harley Quinn]

yeah if we're massclaiming we should massclaim... if not we shouldn't. This is why I wanted to wait for more consensus. I guess trying to get any real consensus on anything at all in this town is like asking a giraffe to do algebra though

I don’t even understand why it’s necessary unless someone is lying and it doesn’t look like any pr claims aren’t legit.

That's precisely why we are massclaiming. The PR claims on the table means about half of the town is already claimed.

We get knowledge from if a doctor exists or doesn't.

Mechanics and votes are what I do. Please trust me.

I don’t.

I would rather be elimmed than follow your plan.

I still don’t understand why you think my plan is suss but I don’t care enough to argue with you about it.

[Enchant]

another thing

if we lim enchant and he is scum ascetic cop then universal backup if it exists becomes ascetic cop and scum have no idea where ub is

Or he turns in Bulletproof. Which is...
Hm. Idk. Is random guy getting BP is powerful?

[MathBlade]

another thing

if we lim enchant and he is scum ascetic cop then universal backup if it exists becomes ascetic cop and scum have no idea where ub is

I do not want Enchant today. I don’t scumread Enchant

I wish enchant would do things

But I don’t think Enchant is scum

[MathBlade]

yeah if we're massclaiming we should massclaim... if not we shouldn't. This is why I wanted to wait for more consensus. I guess trying to get any real consensus on anything at all in this town is like asking a giraffe to do algebra though

I don’t even understand why it’s necessary unless someone is lying and it doesn’t look like any pr claims aren’t legit.

That's precisely why we are massclaiming. The PR claims on the table means about half of the town is already claimed.

We get knowledge from if a doctor exists or doesn't.

Mechanics and votes are what I do. Please trust me.

I don’t.

I would rather be elimmed than follow your plan.

I still don’t understand why you think my plan is suss but I don’t care enough to argue with you about it.

It’s a common scum ploy I can’t go into detail at work but mass claims are always all or none

[Titus]

I'm half convinced it's Ari plus Math again.

[MathBlade]

Hey and I still think you’re scum.

What’s new?

[Harley Quinn]

I'm half convinced it's Ari plus Math again.

Titus do you think my plan has merit? I don’t see why it’s not the best solution. here?

[Titus]

I'm half convinced it's Ari plus Math again.

Titus do you think my plan has merit? I don’t see why it’s not the best solution. here?

Math is right. Half and half is bullshit.

My plan or my plan with Gamma's modification or none.

[MathBlade]

Define “consensus” or I don’t give a fuck and am against

[Titus]

If Math and I agree on something mechanical, regardless of his alignment, it's likely true.

[Bellaphant]

A few people asked, sorry, but yes - I'm vr because I wanted tracker and someone above me got it, which lines up with claims.

[Harley Quinn]

If no one is listening to me or can explain why it’s not the most optimal, Idk why I’m even wasting my time with this. I just keep getting told it’s either bs or scummy, which makes 0 sense to me since no one has yet bothered to explain it and just outright dismisses it.

[Harley Quinn]

Define “consensus” or I don’t give a fuck and am against

I think that’s kind of obvious no? Players most people are tr obviously.

[Save The Dragons]

i just don't know who "consensus" trs are in this game which i think is the problem.

so just letting people off the hook isn't a good idea because what if we're wrong? we're not really utilizing the power of massclaim if we let people off the hook

[Harley Quinn]

Anyway, I’ll be back later when people have made up their minds.

[Bellaphant]

I think titus' first idea works?

[Ausuka]

Maybe it's hypocritical since I already claimed but I don't really see the need for massclaim here, we out our remaining PRs without much direct benefit seemingly

[Harley Quinn]

i just don't know who "consensus" trs are in this game which i think is the problem.

so just letting people off the hook isn't a good idea because what if we're wrong? we're not really utilizing the power of massclaim if we let people off the hook

But doesn’t it help scum know where to shoot though or maybe I’m just not really understanding this. I’m okay personally with claiming, I’m just worried about outing a potential doc but maybe Titus is right?

[Save The Dragons]

there's a lot of outed roles, who does scum shoot? it's a buffet. shooting the doc is probably the case but the doc could be jked. shooting the jk could be fine but maybe the jk is doctored. shooting the cop might be okay but what if they're doctored?

[Wallflower]

Just woke up but I'm not really seeing the benefit of massclaim at a glance

[Harley Quinn]

Maybe it's hypocritical since I already claimed but I don't really see the need for massclaim here, we out our remaining PRs without much direct benefit seemingly

I also wonder that unless someone picked a really scummy pr then does it necessarily tell us anything about their alignment especially if we go in order?

If someone claimed something suspicious and no bp doesn’t qualify, why wouldn’t they just claim vt right?

[MathBlade]

Maybe it's hypocritical since I already claimed but I don't really see the need for massclaim here, we out our remaining PRs without much direct benefit seemingly

I also wonder that unless someone picked a really scummy pr then does it necessarily tell us anything about their alignment especially if we go in order?

If someone claimed something suspicious and no bp doesn’t qualify, why wouldn’t they just claim vt right?

They could but then if a VT comes along that says that category they could be busted

That’s why I could see it working but I think how Titus is pushing for it so much makes me not want it

[Harley Quinn]

there's a lot of outed roles, who does scum shoot? it's a buffet. shooting the doc is probably the case but the doc could be jked. shooting the jk could be fine but maybe the jk is doctored. shooting the cop might be okay but what if they're doctored?

If Enchant is bp then there can’t be a cop.

[Save The Dragons]

that assumes enchant is lying about bp

[Save The Dragons]

like i see some merit to this because it pigeonholes scum into certain claims and prevents faking later on when more people are dead and are unable to give away information. we might even get a 1v1 if scum want to directly try and take out a role. i can understand reluctance but i see some benefits