Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Wallflower]

More and more I think eliminating Math is the only correct play here and the more talking about roles etc the more info we give to scum

[MathBlade]

Technically, Math, it's possible you targeted Enchant and got double blocked by BP

and

JK.

That’s why I am saying if you don’t trust me flip me.

Then Enchant becomes confirmed town until and unless a doctor flips green.

[Aristeia]

this is so ass backwards

[Aristeia]

eliminating enchant and having him flip scum ascetic cop would literally mean the JK guilty on MB is meaningless

create an ascetic cop for us from the Universal Backup

and set the scum on 1 scum left and pretty much easy win

[MathBlade]

That condition works for Ari because doc stays hidden
It works for everyone not wanting pass claim

And if scum Enchant (which I think is false) kills a town doctor, scum enchant loses inno.

[Aristeia]

I do not see a single reason why anyone should be townreading Enchant on play or mech

[Aristeia]

That condition works for Ari because doc stays hidden
It works for everyone not wanting pass claim

And if scum Enchant (which I think is false) kills a town doctor, scum enchant loses inno.

we have 10 Town Players one of them picked doctor

why the !@#$ do we need a doctor to out to kill Enchant I have no clue

[MathBlade]

eliminating enchant and having him flip scum ascetic cop would literally mean the JK guilty on MB is meaningless

create an ascetic cop for us from the Universal Backup

and set the scum on 1 scum left and pretty much easy win

Nope

We have a role that can check Enchant for Ascetic.

Then enchant scum have to shoot Roden to avoid being outed but doc if it exists protects Roden

So win win.

Then only way that fails is scum PRs which narrows scum PoE

[MathBlade]

I do not see a single reason why anyone should be townreading Enchant on play or mech

He’s the one who got shot when I flip town unless a doctor exists.

There is no guarantee of that.

If a doc flips green then Enchant scum can be considered not before

[Aristeia]

if you check Enchant and he's not ascetic that still doesn't mean he isn't scum bulletproof

[MathBlade]

That condition works for Ari because doc stays hidden
It works for everyone not wanting pass claim

And if scum Enchant (which I think is false) kills a town doctor, scum enchant loses inno.

we have 10 Town Players one of them picked doctor

why the !@#$ do we need a doctor to out to kill Enchant I have no clue

Because if a doctor isn’t flipped and green (not enough just to claim) then the most likely answer is scum shot Enchant.

[Aristeia]

I do not see a single reason why anyone should be townreading Enchant on play or mech

He’s the one who got shot when I flip town unless a doctor exists.

There is no guarantee of that.

If a doc flips green then Enchant scum can be considered not before

this is wrong

[MathBlade]

if you check Enchant and he's not ascetic that still doesn't mean he isn't scum bulletproof

Then if no doctor and no BP where is the missing kill when I flip town?

[Aristeia]

That condition works for Ari because doc stays hidden
It works for everyone not wanting pass claim

And if scum Enchant (which I think is false) kills a town doctor, scum enchant loses inno.

we have 10 Town Players one of them picked doctor

why the !@#$ do we need a doctor to out to kill Enchant I have no clue

Because if a doctor isn’t flipped and green (not enough just to claim) then the most likely answer is scum shot Enchant.

your mech is just wrong sorry

we assume a doctor exists period

[Wallflower]

eliminating enchant and having him flip scum ascetic cop would literally mean the JK guilty on MB is meaningless

create an ascetic cop for us from the Universal Backup

and set the scum on 1 scum left and pretty much easy win

How does enchant as ascetic cop mean that Math is not guilty? Doesn’t it just remove another possible explanation for the no-kill?

[MathBlade]

That condition works for Ari because doc stays hidden
It works for everyone not wanting pass claim

And if scum Enchant (which I think is false) kills a town doctor, scum enchant loses inno.

we have 10 Town Players one of them picked doctor

why the !@#$ do we need a doctor to out to kill Enchant I have no clue

Because if a doctor isn’t flipped and green (not enough just to claim) then the most likely answer is scum shot Enchant.

Nah, I don’t assume something exists without evidence.

You said scum always shoot Enchant here. Enchant BP is the simplest answer

your mech is just wrong sorry

we assume a doctor exists period

[Aristeia]

eliminating enchant and having him flip scum ascetic cop would literally mean the JK guilty on MB is meaningless

create an ascetic cop for us from the Universal Backup

and set the scum on 1 scum left and pretty much easy win

How does enchant as ascetic cop mean that Math is not guilty? Doesn’t it just remove another possible explanation for the no-kill?

Because the JK guilty means nothing if Enchant is Scum Ascetic Cop

Ascetic always makes Nightkills if Scum has it

[Aristeia]

That condition works for Ari because doc stays hidden
It works for everyone not wanting pass claim

And if scum Enchant (which I think is false) kills a town doctor, scum enchant loses inno.

we have 10 Town Players one of them picked doctor

why the !@#$ do we need a doctor to out to kill Enchant I have no clue

Because if a doctor isn’t flipped and green (not enough just to claim) then the most likely answer is scum shot Enchant.

Nah, I don’t assume something exists without evidence.

You said scum always shoot Enchant here. Enchant BP is the simplest answer

your mech is just wrong sorry

we assume a doctor exists period

you're wrong sorry

[Wallflower]

eliminating enchant and having him flip scum ascetic cop would literally mean the JK guilty on MB is meaningless

create an ascetic cop for us from the Universal Backup

and set the scum on 1 scum left and pretty much easy win

How does enchant as ascetic cop mean that Math is not guilty? Doesn’t it just remove another possible explanation for the no-kill?

Because the JK guilty means nothing if Enchant is Scum Ascetic Cop

Ascetic always makes Nightkills if Scum has it

Oh right sorry

[MathBlade]

Then if that doctor flips and flips green
OR Enchant is ascetic
Then Enchant is elimmable

Not before

[Aristeia]

bulletproof is literally useless

[Aristeia]

scum win at parity

enchant will

never

clear himself

[Aristeia]

if you lim him and he flips town bulletproof maybe we get a UB become bulletproof and soak up another nightkill

[MathBlade]

This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.

[implosion]

bulletproof is literally useless

scum win at parity

enchant will

never

clear himself

do you mean it's useless as in "if enchant is town, bp did nothing for us because of parity"? Because the setup starts in evens. Or do you mean it's useless at this point now that we're in odds?