Open 854 | Eurybia's Curse | Game Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

He’s probably chilling in wolf chat

If this is serious, why no effort to deal with him? If not, fuck off, I’ve made it clear I’m not in a joking mood.

[Aristeia]

the expectations for people who are veterans of the site are different from the expectations for a noob on his first game.

if you seriously think tuf is mafia you can always case him and push him

you can actually do that for anyone who you think is mafia.

[Aristeia]

you can be right

you can be town

you can be mafia

i dont fucking know

all i have ever wanted

is for you to try to play

the game you signed up to play.

i can get your alignment wrong

i am not some god of scumhunting who is never wrong

if you dont play the game

it is harder for me to get your alignment right

if a lot of people dont play the game

it is hard for me to figure out which of them is mafia and which of them is town

i apologize for my poor play i am just not that skilled.

[marcistar]

tbh fruits weird yeah

[Gamma Emerald]

The issue is im currently dealing with putting the names of players to their profile picture, and just memorizing the names in the first place, I made a Doc to help with this, it's a process.

as of now the Self-Meta from skitter caught my eye, (and is why im voting her rn) and that meuh and marci should of taken up a full 5 pages worth of discussion on clothes alone ...thinking about it now marci has been feeling very, uh disconnected from all of what's been happening? like im reading through everyone's messages, but marci gives off very Filler Vibes

VOTE: Marci One I need to place my vote on someone, two looking back at D1 I wasn't really feeling marci's plays

Latter post feels off looking at the former

[Meuh]

@Gamma I do think Fruit is scum, it was like a half-jokey comment. Sorry. The issue is that I also don’t think my read on him is very compelling because it’s coming from a perspective of the game that most people don’t have. (I townread most players)
My read on Fruit is more of a gamestate read than a Fruit read and I don’t find his ISO particularly compelling

PEdit: VOTE: The Ugly Fruit

[Gamma Emerald]

every single thing TUF posts feels... like... profoundly fake...

ugh fruits always just such a frustrating player to deal with.

he calls me filler, but thats just exactly what he is.
refuses to read at times, complains about wagons in a way that it seems like hes trying to prevent progression, only focusing on reading skitter, a weird lack of reads in his iso.

i know hes perfectly capable but also i know he just generally likes shitting around and being stubborn

What is the point of these?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

Who do you think falls into each camp here?

[Titus]

Interesting. Coral, what do you think of Ari's vote switch off of Pav?

[Aristeia]

do u still want to kill cakes

[Isis]

I'm sad

[Isis]

I don't scumread Cakez anymore.

No matter who scum is I think they are snowing people like meuh who are town

I guess maybe we just flip pav but it feels like that's possible because there is scum on other pressured slots

[Isis]

Why can't every setup have dayvig

[Meuh]

Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

Who do you think falls into each camp here?

hmmm
I assume you mean the camp of aware vs ignoring?
I'm gonna take a look at people's ISOs to get the accurate picture of it all
Note that ignoring doesn't mean no mention of Pav, it means more so less harsh stances and less attention on him:

Aware: Me, Titus, Ari, Coral, GL
Ignoring: Marci, Fruit, Worstie, Gamma, Isis, Cakez, Skitter
Pavowski: Pavowski

Things that stuck out to me while looking at this:
-Coral and TW have given significantly different amounts of attention to Pav.
-Isis barely mentions him, considering her postcount
-It's even worse for Skitter, who also barely mentions him. From what I can see she literally didn't talk about him until 1691, which is impressive.

[Aristeia]

i'm at the point where maybe I put your names into a hat and draw one out and we do that if you can trust my lucky hat and god's good graces

[Meuh]

Your hat does look trustworthy

[Aristeia]

I think the issue we have is that mafia can just stonewall any elim if enough of the town isn't playing the game.

so let's do a different voting system

[Aristeia]

I think the issue we have is that mafia can just stonewall any elim if enough of the town isn't playing the game.

so let's do a different voting system

put down every person you are willing to vote(basically who are you willing to vouch for being town 1000% of the time)(if you vouch for a mafia and they escape we might lim you) for and kill today instead of just one person.

I'll compile the results

I am willing to vote for anyone other than Coral

[Aristeia]

UNVOTE: Pavowski

[marcistar]

why

[Titus]

AFK today. I am not sure whether that idea is today or tomorrow. It can help scum today.

[Coral]

Ari, I like this idea, but 1000% town is pretty high. I'm not sure that I'm that confident in anyone. I know that lowering the threshold of confidence makes this less useful, but I don't think it will be super useful as is either. Can it be, like, people where you would feel a strong desire to protest their elimination today?

Just checking in briefly, will respond to other stuff later

pedit: i don't quite follow why it would be better tomorrow than today, but I'll try to think about it

[Aristeia]

i guess we could just give scum points out

i dunno i just feel like our current voting system is getting us nowhere and its hard to build consensus

[Aristeia]

doing anything in this game feels like pulling teeth

[Titus]

i guess we could just give scum points out

i dunno i just feel like our current voting system is getting us nowhere and its hard to build consensus

This to me means we've wagoned scum somewhere. Your changed vote derailed Pav.