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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:00 pm

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Unofficial vote count (pretty sure this is correct):

Vivax (4): Eiralox, Not_Mafia, geraintm, Corwinoid
Crescent (1): Vivax
geraintm (1): gibus
BlueBloodedToffee (1): Alexcellent
Corwinoid (1): Elsa Jay
Gibus (1): BlueBloodedToffee

Not voting (1): Crescent
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:18 pm

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Aiite so, Cres COULD be scum, but I'm not convinced enough to vote. Part of me did wonder if that VLA was scum!Cres reacting to the votes on her but I think (especially with her coming back) that she's very genuinely angry at this game and the town. Dislike how she defends herself and her overall demeanour and ego doesn't do her any favours. But it overall at least
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Hot and cold on Vivax. I think Corwin is likely town. Something about the wagon on Vivax feels off though. There's an element to some of his posts that feel like he's more interested in self-preservation, which
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I'm having a hard time reading Gera.

D1 Eira and D2 Eira are two different people. I do not understand what's happened and this game really doesn't need another anti-town player.

Tbh I don't like Toffee's entrance. Combined with Goldfish's play I think I'm just going to leave my vote there.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:20 pm

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I don‘t know why I should post more. I feel like my work here is done, geraint even thinks I‘m town jesus but doesn‘t admit it.
The next time I log in after work it might be to use the avatar NM suggested for Crescent.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:22 pm

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well ok but crscent? work done there? so scum... is... who? crescent and gibus? come one vivax two more votes and you are done. unvoting is a distinct possibly for me but... not yet. And Goldfish/Toffee? the fact that you have not mentioned or read that slot once? Anything on that?
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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:24 pm

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In post 1153, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Looks like Crescent is scum, no?
In post 1156, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:We should probably elim the person not willing to play the game.
In post 1167, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Crescent
In post 1195, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can we elim Gibus? Seems good, no?
In post 1205, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: Eira
In post 1215, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alright.

VOTE: Gibus
All feels to me like a player looking for a comfortable wagon and not specifically scum.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:38 pm

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I'm not very convinced the FishBloodedMoonToffee slot is scum, but I'm 100% okay sorting it immediately.

That said, I still think Owen was virtue signaling, and Vivax is scum for a myriad of reasons, and I think this is our best elim today. At the very least his play today has been directly anti-town, beyond just self-serving. The NM vote after giving explicit reasons why elim sorting him was wrong today was enough to justify this, and I stand by that.

I'm torn on Crescent, she would have been my 4th option, but made a compelling effort to take #3.
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:38 pm

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In post 1255, Corwinoid wrote:I'm not very convinced the FishBloodedMoonToffee slot is scum, but I'm 100% okay sorting it immediately.
I'm also not very convinced it's not.
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:44 pm

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In post 1253, Eiralox wrote:well ok but crscent? work done there? so scum... is... who? crescent and gibus? come one vivax two more votes and you are done. unvoting is a distinct possibly for me but... not yet. And Goldfish/Toffee? the fact that you have not mentioned or read that slot once? Anything on that?
I don't see why someone has to write about every slot to find mafia. I find their posts unremarkable, while I don't find the posts of my scumreads unremarkable. Why would I want the attention directed at something unremarkable?

If the town wants to lunch me, go right ahead. Voting for me won't make me change my reads, because I'm not mafia.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:55 pm

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no problem with your reads. and sure y'know goldfish lipped on by many of us. what i find curious is u saying your work is done.... mine ain't, so ya know, if u got a solution that makes it easier for all right? so who's scum, and why? i'm not saying change your reads, i'm saying enlighten us.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:02 pm

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Vivax is just town isn't he?

People should vote Gibus with me if they want to find scum.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:04 pm

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Alex, what's a comfortable wagon?
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:04 pm

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regardless of vivax's alignment, if they see a solution, why not share?
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:05 pm

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A dangerous game indeed.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:07 pm

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They have. They're voting Crescent, no?

We should try to elim scum and not town though, so Vivax wagon is bad.
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:08 pm

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Crescent can wait. Convince me Vivax is town, and that you're not on tomorrow's rocket.
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:10 pm

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I'm getting to it. Want to read up a bit more so not everything I say is 'Well on page 3' or some shit.

But like, 1257 is pretty town.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:11 pm

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So vivax case against crescent is... sufficient? And vivax saying their work is done surely means that they know who along with crescent is scum? so...... who? why? i'm not saying crescent ain't scum, i'm saying if vivax is so sure about it why not tell us more? i mean vivax hasn't even mentioned me outing crescent for gibus-related mistakes, surely than can only bolster the case here?
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:15 pm

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I can't say I have paid a great deal of attention to why Vivax is voting Crescent(I probably shouldn't be reading the game from two sides). I do remember heavily disliking Crescent's reaction to Vivax's push though and Visax's push feeling like it's coming from a town perspective.

Let's say Vivax does feel he has got the whole game figured out...why does he need to state it? To tell scum exactly where he is at? To draw the NK onto himself so that he can't follow up with whatever other reads he has? He literally has no reason to do it, he has given a scum read and is pushing it. The rest can happen on the next Day.

OK, but why does scum!Vivax ignore what could help his case (town!Visax too for that matter). Why is that AI?
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:18 pm

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'Visax' *chuckle*
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:20 pm

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Corwin, how do you feel about Gibus?
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:20 pm

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fair point. i still want to hear more though, vivax is at four votes so falling off the grid and saying their work is done is not, well, an effective response. frustrated town? maybe. not enough for me to unvote tho.
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:21 pm

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I agree, he isn't helping his case in terms of trying to get votes off him. Which would indicate town more than scum, no? I don't even think he is frustrated, just comes across as stubbornness.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:22 pm

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In post 1269, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Corwin, how do you feel about Gibus?
Alexithymic.

I asked you about Elsa first.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:23 pm

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that was asked lel
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:26 pm

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In post 1172, Corwinoid wrote: I'm glad you joined us, now how about some thoughts about someone else, in particular Elsa?
I didn't even see this.

Elsa can be town. Or at least town enough that elimming there makes no sense Today.

You really can't have players like Gibus and NM making D3 in a game. I understand we can only get one Today, but leaving these slots around is dangerous. Sounds like policy elim, and kind of is, but I have seen enough from Gibus which makes me think he could be scum. Vig should shoot NM to sort that shit out
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