Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[Loki Dokie]

loki frozen and crying in scumchat

This is an extreme reaction to my post since I am nowhere even remotely “frozen”.

Back to thinking you’re scum again.

[NotAHecticAlt]

its an extreme reaction to me shitposting to gauge your reaction and you passed

[NotAHecticAlt]

believe it or not im not actually informed of your alignment and need to sort to figure it out.

[Firebringer]

and you passed

Did I?

[NotAHecticAlt]

and you passed

Did I?

better luck next time

[Loki Dokie]

My core value in life and the only one that translates over to mafia is to hold tight the characteristics that make me an individual and not forgo them for anything. I understand you are worried that I will get eliminated, however that is not enough for me to change my talking style for you. Not strictly relevant, but people have been trying to change me my entire life and I have always maintained my values and manner of speaking through the deepest of pressure. I'm not saying I am triggered but being asked to adapt my style of speaking to suit a vague and abstract ideal personality doesn't sit right with me. I'm not blaming you, I'm just offering my perspective, it is not my intent to tear apart my innate values as a person in what should be my favourite past-time and a way to blow off steam. I hope these comments do not come off as antagonistic and I wish you the longest of days.

Wtf????

Who and what is this even about or directed to and why do keep ignoring my questions?

its an extreme reaction to me shitposting to gauge your reaction and you passed

believe it or not im not actually informed of your alignment and need to sort to figure it out.

So you’re tr me now? Well that is definitely different from WH. I still don’t understand most of your reads. I’ve only played one game with scum!you. How do I know this isn’t a pocket?

[Firebringer]

Well it was just a joy playing and being part of this experience. I want to thank my family for supporting me to get me to this point to just compete. All the coaches and mentors i had along the way, sorry I didn't take the gold home guys but its only because yall i got this far.

[Firebringer]

How do I know this isn’t a pocket?

Would be a weird pocket attempt if it was one.

[NotAHecticAlt]

My core value in life and the only one that translates over to mafia is to hold tight the characteristics that make me an individual and not forgo them for anything. I understand you are worried that I will get eliminated, however that is not enough for me to change my talking style for you. Not strictly relevant, but people have been trying to change me my entire life and I have always maintained my values and manner of speaking through the deepest of pressure. I'm not saying I am triggered but being asked to adapt my style of speaking to suit a vague and abstract ideal personality doesn't sit right with me. I'm not blaming you, I'm just offering my perspective, it is not my intent to tear apart my innate values as a person in what should be my favourite past-time and a way to blow off steam. I hope these comments do not come off as antagonistic and I wish you the longest of days.

Wtf????

Who and what is this even about or directed to and why do keep ignoring my questions?

its an extreme reaction to me shitposting to gauge your reaction and you passed

believe it or not im not actually informed of your alignment and need to sort to figure it out.

So you’re tr me now? Well that is definitely different from WH. I still don’t understand most of your reads. I’ve only played one game with scum!you. How do I know this isn’t a pocket?

well you dont because i am good enough as scum to have likely faked what ive done this far but some good faith goes a long way on day 1

[NotAHecticAlt]

also that long post was a copypasta from a fun player in datisi's champs game lmfao

[Loki Dokie]

How do I know this isn’t a pocket?

Would be a weird pocket attempt if it was one.

Not really, they said they liked my reaction to their post but I think it’s in the realm of possibility that could be a pocket.

Anyone who’s ever played with me knows I am or definitely have in the past been an easy pocket or it’s also possible that they’re town and this is another silly reaction test. I have no idea but I’m very suspicious of them regardless. They seem to be working overtime to get tr, ironically what they’re currently accusing ejj of doing.

It’s really hard to tell with them.

[Firebringer]

i am good enough as scum to have likely faked what ive done this far

aren't we all

[NotAHecticAlt]

im not even trying to be townread ..? im trying to be leader, yes, but im overall trying to hardsolve the game d1 because im like always n1d as town nowadays

[NotAHecticAlt]

ok ill spill why i want to be leader so bad - because i believe that leader gets nightkill immunity likely and id like that for myself.

[Firebringer]

have you tried being bad so u don't get n1ed. I can teach u a thing or two on how to live to endgame as town.

[NotAHecticAlt]

and also thus why im pushing it onto the people i townread most if i cant have it

[NotAHecticAlt]

like im doing a pretty shit job of getting townread by putting myself out there in a way that gives me negative attention and all lmao

[Firebringer]

why would someone have night immunity in game where theme is humans are getting slaughtered by machines.
No chance of that imo. Unless ur a machine, like me.
And I wish to confirm I don't have night immunity

[Fidget]

Ok but like, why is your first instinct "I wanna self heal!!!!" this really isn't much different from a normal maf game where you find your town core or whatever, I say this, but if that was your first instinct it's probably more likely that you are town, cause I think maf would be more wanting to push each other, since there's 3 of them, like, 2 can push 1 to be healed, and yeah. ok tangent over, uhh not like a hard tr here or anything, but I think it's a good look for NotAHecticAlt

WIFOM, he's either scum doing it because it's too bold for scum or he's just town, either way, cannot say

NotHectic why do you want control or why do you want Peng to have control?

Because i know I am town and i tend to take these kinds of mech things seriously + my top townread is penguin rn so if i cant have it i might as well push a townread in atp.

Meme or serious read on penguin?

NAHA, you seem to be a bit lamisty.

A little bit

[Fidget]

I mean - no one has to decide now?

lol THANK YOU!! everyone's acting like we HAVE to have one in the first 24 hours, like... people chill it'll be ok lol

Who was doing that?

I know it sounds stupid but if I were to select a Town leader right now, I’d make a choice based on personality rather than my early “reads”.

This is the post that got me so upset. Like, seriously? I didn't join this game for it to become "who's personality do I like/hate" or "popularity contest time" just.. yeah no, I'm not commenting on this any further, and just reading all this? almost makes me just not want to play the game anymore, I'm not sure why you ever thought it'd be a good idea to come in here "I'm going off personalities!!!" I highly doubt I'm alone in feeling this way...

Doesn't seem terribly out of the usual to me. Sometimes when there's a Day 0 with special mechanics, some don't take a reading strategy and might instead give the spotlight to someone who might be particularly illuminating

I don't really agree with that idea but I don't equivocate it with a popularity contest, I'm not sure ejin was referring to voting according to who they like/dislike.

In any case I don't see why heals can't be functionally the same as votes for now

well, if someone hits 6 heals, they're leader... so like.. yeah

Kind of like when someone hits majority and gets chopped? Votes have to mean something for them to... mean something

[Fidget]

Hmm, but you know what, those who say they don't want power out of the gate might not be doing so because they don't want power...... paranoia...

hahaha woah what?? what an idea XD yeah see, cause it's mountainous, it's gonna have to be something that'll be reads related for our leaders, me and reads... my reads are eith decent or super off, so I read the leader thing and went "I really shouldn't be leader..." cause I know I'm gonna be a universal TR pretty quickly here, like, I almost always am one... as I'm catching up, I'm realizing I know no one here, or like, how yall play, I might know of some of yall sure, but I really don't know how anyone here plays, so I guess that's a good thing for my reads? which would mean, leader!me wouldn't be as bad as I initially thought, but ehhh I'm not campaigning for it lol I will push my TRs though!! They can make decisions!

What about "The town benefits from town being leader" does universal townread not jive with? I suppose I just am a little lost as to why you think not campaigning for leader is a losing strategy for scum, especially scum that tends to obvious town.

HEAL: Andante

This sounds like town!Andante to me.

are they always so dramatic?

Yes.

I also think they're also misconstruing you to at least some extent. Intentionally or not

andante would totally be the person scum me would be trying to make leader here btw.

thank you

frankly, the intentions behind this post are probably townie
it would be insanely easy for scum to nominate an emotional, tunneled townie and chill with the following yeets

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12749463

Before you continue your discredit on Andante’s ability to scumhunt, I suggest you click on this link.

Are you saying that because Andante had a good town game, they cannot be pocketed or have wrong reads? That's what this post reads to me.

[Fidget]

I feel emotionally burned out despite having done literally nothing lol

Mafia

Agree with FB that Andante might be someone scum votes up early (I am not saying that I disagree with Andante as leader, I don't see any issue, but FB saying that he would probably try to WK and maybe take advantage of a tunnel is definitely something i see scum pouncing on. Plus, Andante's so likable i dont think anyone would mind.)

so in essence: choose a pool of players we'd want to kill if we had to do a vote and ranked before the next stage, that way we don't fuck ourselves over.
i myself am pro killing in ejj/loki/FB or a low/non poster

we can use hurt tags to vote on that

HURT: ejj
HURT: loki
HURT: Firebringer

Don't you think this is overkill at this stage? Why're you so eager this game, Not Not NotHectic?

[Fidget]

First off, I really really really hate the post cap thingie.

I would not have joined without the post cap restriction, to be honest. Games felt like battles of endurance as opposed to investigations

[Fidget]

oh lmao i just realized i kinda did overhype the penguin townread and internally made it stronger than it should be

regardless im fine with my heal there as i think the controversy around it spews penguin town :3

I'm so confused where it even originated on page 1

HEAL: Aisa

[Fidget]

And I definitely don’t want NAHA as leader because I don’t trust their reads whatever they are in this game.

You don't trust someone's reads before flips have happened? That's rather confident of you