Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[ejjinami]

You are correct that I am attempting to conceal my personality.

why tho

[ejjinami]

it'll only make it harder for people to read you

[Fidget]

Ejj feels like the Town version of The Alt (not) Formerly Known As Hectic.

Like, they're similarly hyperposting, both coming off as somewhat arrogant, and tinged with LAMIST.... But for reasons I can't quite articulate, Ejj's posting seems genuine, while citceH's doesn't.

Hahahahaha. I love it.

Not Not Not Not Not........ 's posting brushes my fur the wrong way. Problem is, it usually does.

im not even trying to be townread ..? im trying to be leader, yes, but im overall trying to hardsolve the game d1 because im like always n1d as town nowadays

I… actually kinda buy this

What do you mean that you buy they are not "trying" to be townread?

that's what I'm getting from my observation. Hectic seems to be responding instinctively to most posts. Although the energy feels intentional, I feel no agenda behind it- they're just doing it on a whim- which matches what Hectic said about "trying to act like a leader, which is different from trying to act townie"

Basically -

regardless of hectic's alignment I believe that they believe that what they're currently doing is pro-town

if that makes sense

Hmmm, I think you're absolutely correct about the bolded. It just doesn't help me much.

You are correct that I am attempting to conceal my personality.

why tho

it'll only make it harder for people to read you

I'm well aware. I'm a fairly transparent book if I start letting anyone peek. I can't really offer much more explanation.

But make no mistake, I'm not disengaged, as you seem to have gotten the impression. Maybe I don't have a lot of answers, but we haven't been given kill pressure yet, and it's a sort of pregame limbo.

[ejjinami]

Basically -

regardless of hectic's alignment I believe that they believe that what they're currently doing is pro-town

if that makes sense

Hmmm, I think you're absolutely correct about the bolded. It just doesn't help me much.

it does
they're not acting pro-scum so just don't scum-read them
if the behavior changes, change the read
whatever, D1 reads rarely last forever anyway

I'm well aware. I'm a fairly transparent book if I start letting anyone peek. I can't really offer much more explanation.

But make no mistake, I'm not disengaged, as you seem to have gotten the impression. Maybe I don't have a lot of answers, but we haven't been given kill pressure yet, and it's a sort of pregame limbo.

:nod:

I'll be waiting then

[ejjinami]

going to sleep
I'll have way less time to play during weekdays so let's see how it goes
glgl

[Fidget]

HURT: Penguin
HEAL: ejj

That’s a 180 degree switch up? Especially on Penguin.

Yeah. Did Penguin even say anything since then? I don't think so.

Provocative just cause, or provocative to seem more complicated and solvey than they really are? My suspension of disbelief just grows greater and greater each time I read a post by N-H. They're just throwing things at the wall now.

oh roden/fidget prob town i forgot lmao

the people not really posting are "prob town" ?? what kind of logic is that...

Aren't you blatantly putting words in N-Hec's mouth here?

does anyone have any issue with a pairing of Penguin - Andante for team leaders btw?

yeah, Penguin isn't really talking...

Lol. Pretty much.

it does
they're not acting pro-scum so just don't scum-read them
if the behavior changes, change the read
whatever, D1 reads rarely last forever anyway

No, I agree with you that N-Hec thinks that they're acting pro-town. As scum or town. I meant it more as, they're convinced that what they're doing either A.) should be townread or B.) helps the town

Now, I have to suspend my disbelief super hard to get how they think preventing a nightkill on themself (And nominating Peng as leader / 180ing with no followup ) and etc are the most pro-town things that can be done.

[NotAHecticAlt]

Still waiting on someone to tell me where i said i scumread penguin

[ejjinami]

Now, I have to suspend my disbelief super hard to get how they think preventing a nightkill on themself (And nominating Peng as leader / 180ing with no followup ) and etc are the most pro-town things that can be done.

you don’t “have to” :) you’ll just be read for what you post

reading hyperactive townies based on “logic” has never worked for me well
it’s easy to find pure nonsense
bleh, I was supposed to go to sleep

tbh I’m sort of interested in why you’re reading into that but that's maybe for tomorrow

Still waiting on someone to tell me where i said i scumread penguin

you don't scum-read penguin
you corrected that already

[Aisa]

Ahh sorry ejj think I might steal this conversation from you.

[...]
No, I agree with you that N-Hec thinks that they're acting pro-town. As scum or town. I meant it more as, they're convinced that what they're doing either A.) should be townread or B.) helps the town

Now, I have to suspend my disbelief super hard to get how they think preventing a nightkill on themself (And nominating Peng as leader / 180ing with no followup ) and etc are the most pro-town things that can be done.

It is logical to me?
1. preventing a nightkill on yourself is pro-town if you're an above-average town player. Not Hectic clearly think they are an above-average town player.
2. Not Hectic supported Peng as leader on pages 1-3, IIRC. Given the amount of information available at the time, I think that made sense. They then decided to support someone else as more information became available. That also makes complete sense IMO. I believe they used the hurt tag on Penguin as a means of unvoting, not of expressing suspicion of Penguin, if that's what you're referring to.
3. If by "180ing" you mean the change of heart on ejj, there has been a sort-of follow up:

[...]
I'm not explaining ejj at this time - I realize I flipped my read there and I want to see how the gamestate adjusts to that shift.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Leader Selection:

Andante [3]:

Radical Rat, Loki Dokie, NotAHecticAlt

Ejjinami [3]:

NotAHecticAlt, Andante, Aisa

Aisa [2]:

Fidget, Ejjinami

NotAHecticAlt [1]:

Roden

Radical Rat [1]:

Andante

not voting [5]:

Shoshin, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower, Firebringer, Gamma Emerald

Mod Note: Happy Sunday

Event

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-21 21:00:00)

[NotAHecticAlt]

I'm approaching the halfway point for my posts - so I'm going to be sinking into the background as I have work tomorrow anyways.
Aisa summed up my thoughts pretty much perfectly. That's a person actually reading the game in good faith. (praying its not a pocket tho lmao)

ejj>andante>CSF>PP(i still townlean the slot)>Aisa>Fidget>Loki>FB>Gamma>Radical Rat>Shoshin(default reading this bottom of the pack)

If we end up getting split, I ask the side that doesnt have me to respect this list at least for the top 5 ^^

See yall later

[Firebringer]

can u put me last not hectic

[Fidget]

Now, I have to suspend my disbelief super hard to get how they think preventing a nightkill on themself (And nominating Peng as leader / 180ing with no followup ) and etc are the most pro-town things that can be done.

you don’t “have to” :) you’ll just be read for what you post

reading hyperactive townies based on “logic” has never worked for me well
it’s easy to find pure nonsense
bleh, I was supposed to go to sleep

tbh I’m sort of interested in why you’re reading into that but that's maybe for tomorrow

Still waiting on someone to tell me where i said i scumread penguin

you don't scum-read penguin
you corrected that already

I'm not sure what you meant by the first line. Your second point is fair enough to an extent, the sample size is larger, sure.

It is logical to me?
1. preventing a nightkill on yourself is pro-town if you're an above-average town player. Not Hectic clearly think they are an above-average town player.
2. Not Hectic supported Peng as leader on pages 1-3, IIRC. Given the amount of information available at the time, I think that made sense. They then decided to support someone else as more information became available. That also makes complete sense IMO. I believe they used the hurt tag on Penguin as a means of unvoting, not of expressing suspicion of Penguin, if that's what you're referring to.
3. If by "180ing" you mean the change of heart on ejj, there has been a sort-of follow up:

1. That's not my argument. I am saying campaigning for leader just because of the off-chance it might give nightkill immunity makes no sense.
2. That's not my argument. N-Hectic went from "Peng should be leader" to suspecting Peng, without any content from Peng happening. I am saying I find that performative nonsense either for reaction tests or to seem more genuine.
3. No, Penguin. It just seems like nonsense.

[Fidget]

HEAL: Ejj

[Fidget]

PP(i still townlean the slot)

???????

Did you not express a reversal on Penguin?

oh rofl

i used hurt tags to remove my leader vote on penguin. so i was right that you put words in my mouth.

Where did I say I scumread penguin?

Sigh, I don't know where I got that impression from then.

[Fidget]

Disregard.. sigh. Just a lot of wasted time. Apologies

[Firebringer]

If no players are designated as leaders, the top two healed players will become leaders[Plurality ties will be broken by seniority]

It is advantageous to the Town to designate Leaders that are town and not Terminators.

There is a Four Day Deadline for this Phase.

so this is happening soon.

[Firebringer]

HEAL: NOt a hectic alt
HEAL: Loki Dokie

[Firebringer]

I am saying campaigning for leader just because of the off-chance it might give nightkill immunity makes no sense.

yeah and its almost certainly wrong.

[Fidget]

so in essence: choose a pool of players we'd want to kill if we had to do a vote and ranked before the next stage, that way we don't fuck ourselves over.
i myself am pro killing in ejj/loki/FB or a low/non poster

we can use hurt tags to vote on that

HURT: ejj
HURT: loki
HURT: Firebringer

Oh. That would explain why that was confusing. You're a difficult player to keep up with, you know.

I'm somewhat suspicious of Radical Rat. Maybe I'm just jealous of their ability to get a grasp on the game so quickly like in 188. Their first five or so posts are jokes or mech too, so they hadn't rlly engaged with too many of their reads, rather observing. I'm not sure though.

I townlean, probably Gamma actually. There was a sequence I liked early game and I think them owning they don't have reads is a good look. Maybe Cat Scratch but i havent really seen enough of her yet.

I believe in ejjinami being town

[Fidget]

I forgot to include this lol it seems cerebral

Spoiler: i like this read

I'm thinkin Aisa is town

she seems to be showing similar practice to me in her read formation, in a way that make me feel like she's town
I tend to also form reads pretty spontaneously as town, and the justification can be rather slim

[Firebringer]

ejjinami remidns me alot of prism.
Therefore I don't trust ejiinami
Can't make em leader

[Firebringer]

at this point don't i usually give my spontaneous hipfire scumreads that are like 70% accurate.
hmmmm lets seee

[Fidget]

Whistle innocently

[Firebringer]

PenguinPower - The grifter. Would sell five people the same bridge. That he has no rights to sell.
Shoshin - The illusionist Makes you think she isn't here even when her name is clearly in the player list.
Ejjinami - The brains of the operation. Will play 3d chess all around you while you are playing 1d chess.