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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:57 pm

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In post 1535, gibus wrote:
In post 1412, Elsa Jay wrote:With 2 days left, I expect the same final crunch we had day 1 to happen again. Maybe even the 8 wagons too. Tho with only 10 alive that becomes significantly harder to do.

I think we can at least agree who we are NOT eliminating today?

Nobody's really going for Alex, Eira, or me today, so I think we can take
those
3 out. Funnily enough the three of
them
are also the only ones not getting voted in the last VC either.

Corwin is more townread then Vivax who is more likely to get elimed between the two so he's safe too. Seems the Crescent stuff has also died now.

So that leaves us with Gibus, Toffee, NotMaf, Vivax, and Gera. Minus Toffee so far it matches what I think we should be between.

If your vote isn't on one of those you should probably get moving soon.
Strangr wording here. Why refer to herself in third person?
Sounds survivalistic while trying not to come off as such.
Gibus, why no Elsa vote here? She's in your scumpool. Cres and me are already voting there. We have like a day left. I'm unsure why you are sticking with Toffee here.
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:05 pm

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In post 1575, Alexcellent wrote:
In post 1535, gibus wrote:
In post 1412, Elsa Jay wrote:With 2 days left, I expect the same final crunch we had day 1 to happen again. Maybe even the 8 wagons too. Tho with only 10 alive that becomes significantly harder to do.

I think we can at least agree who we are NOT eliminating today?

Nobody's really going for Alex, Eira, or me today, so I think we can take
those
3 out. Funnily enough the three of
them
are also the only ones not getting voted in the last VC either.

Corwin is more townread then Vivax who is more likely to get elimed between the two so he's safe too. Seems the Crescent stuff has also died now.

So that leaves us with Gibus, Toffee, NotMaf, Vivax, and Gera. Minus Toffee so far it matches what I think we should be between.

If your vote isn't on one of those you should probably get moving soon.
Strangr wording here. Why refer to herself in third person?
Sounds survivalistic while trying not to come off as such.
Gibus, why no Elsa vote here? She's in your scumpool. Cres and me are already voting there. We have like a day left. I'm unsure why you are sticking with Toffee here.
I actually find an easy explanation for this, but I'm going to let him answer.
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:06 pm

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Vote Count 2.6
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gibus (3):
BlueBloodedToffee, Elsa Jay, Corwinoid
Vivax (3):
Not_Mafia, geraintm, Eiralox
Elsa Jay (2):
Alexcellent, Crescent
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gibus
Crescent (1):
Vivax

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to launch.

Deadline:
(expired on 2022-06-21 06:15:00)
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:08 pm

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In post 1574, Alexcellent wrote:
In post 1539, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 1538, Vivax wrote:The expectation that vig can shoot again isn't scummy.
That's not the slip I care about.
I feel like I missed something here, what's this relating to?
Part of me wonders if Corwin is just messing with me because I still have no idea what this is about.
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:17 pm

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Uh also

I just noticed that deadline is at 2:14am for me Tuesday morning and I have to be up around 7:30am on Tuesday morning. The deadline is terrible for both NA players and for European players. We need to be careful with our time tomorrow.
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:22 pm

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In post 1559, geraintm wrote:p=13410619#p13410619]post 1414[/url], Crescent"]
In post 1397, Elsa Jay wrote:To speak my current peace:

I still think Vivax and Corwin are TvT, but I concede that if there's scum there it's Vivax.

I would be okay with a NotMaf Elim but it's not a priority.

I want more from Alex and Toffee or they'll go back into the scum pile.

My elims today besides NotMaf would be possibly Vixax (though the one I'd probably fight about), Gibus, or Gera. The other 5 I don't wanna launch today at all.

So basically if I have to vote today my vote will be on (maybe) Vivax, NotMaf, Gera, and Gibus wagons.
More from Toffee in what regard? He's already done more than half the game ever has.
What has toffee done, my memory is them slowly reading through thr game and their reads constantly changing as the front and back of the game meet[/quote]
Oh I almost forgot to answer this.

Toffee by their own admission has not read the entire game yet. Their current reads are occasionally shifting by reading more into the game's past. I think we have more to learn from that slot as this trend potentially continues over time.
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:24 pm

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But really, the player had like 4 days and did way more than the person they replaced ever did their first hour in the game. I'm ok giving them a night to read and sort the rest because I think we can get more information that way, and I don't feel any particular inclination to voting in that direction at the moment anyway.
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:28 pm

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Cres plz help us on Gibus.
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:32 pm

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It's about 4pm for me tomorrow, so I shouuuuld be around

Even though we're getting close to end of day, probably worth noting again that NM is still on Vivax. Any other wagon that gets to L-1 is at risk of a lolhammer.
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:43 pm

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People sure do like to ask me to vote with them... Speaking of votes though...

There's one thing I'm finding curious and it's not the Gibus train though - It's the Vivax train.

Almost all I see are people calling him town. I can't even remember offhand the last time someone actually gave a fresh argument for calling the guy scum.

Yet his vote has consistently stayed among the top all day. He's constantly at 3 or 4 votes, and he's tied for the lead going into the final day. I'm still perplexed by why Eira unvoted and then subsequently revoted him 121 posts later.

I feel like there's a disconnect between what I'm seeing being said and what I'm seeing in the votals.
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:54 pm

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In post 1583, Alexcellent wrote:It's about 4pm for me tomorrow, so I shouuuuld be around

Even though we're getting close to end of day, probably worth noting again that NM is still on Vivax. Any other wagon that gets to L-1 is at risk of a lolhammer.
Also this feels accurate. I could easily see NM being that toxic of a player regardless of his alignment.
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:59 pm

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Have had the feeling its the leftovers from people taking sides in Corwin vs Vivax but yeah, it doesn't look like a good wagon. NM has called Vivax scum and no reasons provided. Gera's vote on him feels weak and there hasn't really been anything new from him there towards Vivax. Don't really get the vote from Eiralox either.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:05 pm

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In post 1575, Alexcellent wrote:
In post 1535, gibus wrote:
In post 1412, Elsa Jay wrote:With 2 days left, I expect the same final crunch we had day 1 to happen again. Maybe even the 8 wagons too. Tho with only 10 alive that becomes significantly harder to do.

I think we can at least agree who we are NOT eliminating today?

Nobody's really going for Alex, Eira, or me today, so I think we can take
those
3 out. Funnily enough the three of
them
are also the only ones not getting voted in the last VC either.

Corwin is more townread then Vivax who is more likely to get elimed between the two so he's safe too. Seems the Crescent stuff has also died now.

So that leaves us with Gibus, Toffee, NotMaf, Vivax, and Gera. Minus Toffee so far it matches what I think we should be between.

If your vote isn't on one of those you should probably get moving soon.
Strangr wording here. Why refer to herself in third person?
Sounds survivalistic while trying not to come off as such.
Gibus, why no Elsa vote here? She's in your scumpool. Cres and me are already voting there. We have like a day left. I'm unsure why you are sticking with Toffee here.
I was kinda hoping for a counter waon but it looks like I'm the only one seeing toffees obv scum agenda.
And the fact that his wagon gained no traction.. very sus. I don't think scum misses a chance to aim for town!toffee since that would be quite easy to case and it makes it easier to set me up for a miselim later.

But yeah, I'm fine with an elsa lim too. Seems like the logical conclusion to Corw v vivax.
Still think her third person survivalism is scummy.
VOTE: Elsa
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:06 pm

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Moving back to toffee if she claims pr or smth.
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:20 pm

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In post 1571, Elsa Jay wrote:I mean so far it's DEFINITELY a townread on Toffee's actions and only because of Fish do I still have some minor doubts. Like with Crescent, if fish had another lurker as a partner with no Coach she could've just abandoned the game. Demotivated after the traitor is gone. Another certified Elsa theory.
All he did was throw out 2 unsubstantiated srs on 2 verytowny players outside of his push on me. I don't get where this is coming from.
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:04 pm

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In post 793, gibus wrote:Unofficial Vote Count 2

GeorgeBailey (6):
Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent, Crescent, gibus, Vivax
UNOwen (3):
clidd, Elsa Jay, GeorgeBailey
Corwinoid (1):
UNOwen
Crescent (1):
geraintm
Vivax (1):
Corwinoid

Not voting (0):


Deadline:
(expired on 2022-06-12 13:13:00)
ok, checking Gibus

Day 1 i get nothing. there is a bunch of votes all around the place, very little in the way of opinion or thought (except consistently saying i am town) and ended up on the elimination 3rd last
In post 781, gibus wrote:VOTE: GeorgeBailey
that was their vote on George Bailey
In post 425, gibus wrote:
In post 416, Eiralox wrote:
In post 415, gibus wrote:I should point out that the games clidd mentioned were a lot more fast paced than this one. Not sure if the meta read is very accurate.
I'd much rather elim Elsa over ger if it were up to me.
ok but if not Elsa then where would your vote be atm?

What's your reads on Crescent, George, and Corwinoid?
No idea. GB I guess?
I don't want to sound like I'm white knighting ger, but his vote based on the 2 posts feels rushed and panicky.
It'd make sense for him to divert all that attention asap as scum. Just a feeling though.
and this was the only time befor ei can really see them having any opinion on George. that vote looks awful now.
In post 936, gibus wrote:VOTE: Goldfish, Not_Mafia, geraint
their open to day 2

their opening thoughts strognly townread Corwin (and soon after think vivax is likely town too, though nothing backing that up)
In post 1302, gibus wrote:
In post 1299, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:All of that to explain a town read on someone under 0 pressure.

Cool.

Who is scum?
I'm still behind by.. a lot.
Based on poe tho, both scum have to exist within Not_maf, geraint, Elsa, and goldfish.
narrows down their scum team. im in it now though they spent previous saying i was town.

post 1338 has a lot of thoughts but they are still claiming to be reading....
In post 1339, gibus wrote:
In post 1337, Crescent wrote:Ok Gibus I have a question. 10 posts after Vivax countervoted Gera, you voted Gera.

Are we ever going to like, learn why?
Random from my poe pool lol.
I didn't want to get kicked due to inactivity.

oh, this is bad
In post 1349, gibus wrote:
In post 43, Crescent wrote:One thing I will add is the guy who voted me is probably town. I tend to be a magnet for unexplained early votes from people who haven't played with me before, and they're almost always town. It's why I got sus of Gamma last game for openly townreading me for no given reason in the first 60.
gibus is probably town if his read was serious
In post 48, UNOwen wrote:
In post 47, Crescent wrote:P.S.

I think the difference is some town get bad-vibes from it and decide to pressure me to get a better read, but it doesn't really ping anything from scum as something worth pursuing, which is why that vote usually comes from town.
What makes you think that gibus wasn't just random voting?
maybe he was random voting?
In post 95, gibus wrote:
In post 58, clidd wrote: @Gibus
Why did you vote Crescent if you said that your vote was ''bad''?
as a dog person, I say we lynch all cat people
I was random voting.
ditto
In post 1351, gibus wrote:wtf

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee
this seems random, but at least the vote is within that random 4 person scum pool
In post 1353, gibus wrote:
In post 1347, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Crescent, you have complained about votes being spread out in the game.

You seem to have an opportunity to create a second wagon. Why are you not taking it?
Yeah cres.
Vote BBT w/ me.
how on earth are they trying to persuade Crescent, an obviously hesitant voter, to start a wagon on Toffee with this bare minimum effort???
In post 1356, gibus wrote:
In post 1348, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I wouldn't mind hearing how Gibus came to 180 on his Gera read, too. I just noticed he is voting him.
I never townread gera fyi.
the what now???

i present
In post 343, gibus wrote:I've got nothing new to bring to the table except that the case on ger is flimsy as hell
and the one where they say they aren't white knighting me...but
In post 1587, gibus wrote:
In post 1575, Alexcellent wrote:
In post 1535, gibus wrote:
In post 1412, Elsa Jay wrote:With 2 days left, I expect the same final crunch we had day 1 to happen again. Maybe even the 8 wagons too. Tho with only 10 alive that becomes significantly harder to do.

I think we can at least agree who we are NOT eliminating today?

Nobody's really going for Alex, Eira, or me today, so I think we can take
those
3 out. Funnily enough the three of
them
are also the only ones not getting voted in the last VC either.

Corwin is more townread then Vivax who is more likely to get elimed between the two so he's safe too. Seems the Crescent stuff has also died now.

So that leaves us with Gibus, Toffee, NotMaf, Vivax, and Gera. Minus Toffee so far it matches what I think we should be between.

If your vote isn't on one of those you should probably get moving soon.
Strangr wording here. Why refer to herself in third person?
Sounds survivalistic while trying not to come off as such.
Gibus, why no Elsa vote here? She's in your scumpool. Cres and me are already voting there. We have like a day left. I'm unsure why you are sticking with Toffee here.
I was kinda hoping for a counter waon but it looks like I'm the only one seeing toffees obv scum agenda.
And the fact that his wagon gained no traction.. very sus. I don't think scum misses a chance to aim for town!toffee since that would be quite easy to case and it makes it easier to set me up for a miselim later.

But yeah, I'm fine with an elsa lim too. Seems like the logical conclusion to Corw v vivax.
Still think her third person survivalism is scummy.
VOTE: Elsa
switch to Elsa because their attempt to get toffee eliminated didnt go anywhere, and justified because no one joined them in voting toffee???

i cannot work out how this slot could be town. their day 1 was not great, their vote ended up on the elimination
In post 885, gibus wrote:
In post 874, GeorgeBailey wrote:Detective, I can see if someone performed a Nightkill during the night or a previous one.
how does this clear people as town
and they even posted after GEorgebailey's claim and didn't unvote.
and day 2 is a mixture of poor votes, poor attempts tostart wagons, claimed laziness

this slot looks bad

VOTE: gibus
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:08 pm

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I don't know about Smellsa, his posts are pretty hava
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:58 pm

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gibus i mean if i shift my vote off vivax it's gonna be on u. thats H-5 or hammer. so.... Elsa and Toffee. Would be lying if I said I don't find them scummy. enough to elim them over u tho? dazzle me.
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:59 pm

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why have i a happy scumday cake under my message? site birthday or something? if so, haooy scumday or somehting i guess.
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:59 pm

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I see let them eat cake
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:07 am

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Happy scumday!
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:11 am

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wait u don't gave it.... almost thought i entered my b-day wrong lol. see it's date i joined, much intelligence.

@Alex Thanks ; )
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:23 am

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@gibus i mean there's many things but the main shtick is how loose u are with votes, and how recalcitrant regarding providing reasons. the only solid reads i've been getting from you, solid arguments, are from D2 after a wagon started to build on ya. Buuuuuutt... i can still see you as town.
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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:34 am

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welp off to town(again). hopefully achieve something when i get back. meanwhile enjoy the cake.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:01 am

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In post 1588, gibus wrote:Moving back to toffee if she claims pr or smth.
... Seriously? Are you doing this to save yourself, for me to claim, or or do you actually scumread me? In what world do you get the roleplayer who has a main gimmick of speaking in third person royalty once in a awhile and replacing words like elsawhere or just elsa (else) with my name?

I can accept others voting me but don't lie and say it's for a good reason dude. You are the guy with survival on the mind now.
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