Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Roden]

I just don't have much to say right now. This is basically Day 2.5 in terms of what the conversations have been about, and I already gave my perspective on current arguments and mech talk awhile ago. I'm mainly just waiting for WF to flip so I can figure out if this game is gonna be easy or hard. Several alignments also get confirmed by tomorrow, and I'm more interested in seeing that.

[Harley Quinn]

do you like want to get flipped? O___O

Honestly kind of? I feel like it’s necessary for the game, because otherwise people are going to be viewing everything through the assumption of me being scum. Once I’m flipped, people actually need to think of teams without me in it, but I think before then it’ll always be Wallflower/x, if that makes sense.

I should have stayed on Enchant

[Harley Quinn]

Wallflower who should we be looking at after you flip town

I actually want to say I really appreciate you asking. I think I have been more self-defeating than I should have been here and while I've had the "no one listens to dead town" mantra going through my head it really is just perpetuating my self-indulgent wallowing.

I'm much more dayplay-focused than mechanics-focused, and so I'm not sure if I've completely gotten my head around everything, but I consider the almost-certain town to be:

Harley Quinn - Possible (probable?) N1 kill target. Appears genuinely confused as to why scum would try to kill Ausuka N2. The turnaround on Math was very much not like scum positioning etc.
Ausuka - The paranoid world where Ausuka has made all this up is... not likely? Ausuka in no way needed to frame me if scum.
Ari - HEM-interactions very probably not distancing. The paranoid world where Ari as scum no-kills in order to claim doctor saves is also... very unlikely.

I've had Titus and Implo in my mind as possible scum, but I'm still questioning Titus in particular and whether she would "take charge" as she has. But, the interactions with Mathblade reminded me of Titus-scum/Math-town dynamic I've seen elsewhere and reading back on Titus' play around the Mathblade wagons, it just feels agenda-driven to me.
Implo just keeps coming up for me because of reasons I've said before, but also I wonder if him being the most willing to consider the possibility that scum targeted Ausuka, is because he knows that scum did target Ausuka.

Roden, Enchant, even Gamma also feel possible to me but less likely. I often have Roden as town in my mind, but then I keep forgetting he exists. The way Enchant claimed yesterday felt unnecessary for scum to do, especially since I think scum would have considered claiming BP there to be a bad idea. And I still don't know whether Gamma knew they were hammering Math or not, but the votes against Ari felt needlessly inflammatory for scum to do.

STD, Bella and Dwlee feel a bit more town to me based on play but I guess there's nothing ABSOLUTELY ruling them out.

I guess the main thing is I want to make sure not to make any premature assumptions. I've had experiences before where I've just town-binned scum for what felt like good reasons at the time. But I know that it might be my flip that's needed to get people to think in a more open-minded way. To think about what might be going on that isn't the obvious.

Why do I allow myself not to trust my gut? No way this is scum.

[Harley Quinn]

Implo if scum will probably struggle because of the UB claim

But he seemed to really believe I could be vig and I would think rolecop Implosion would have already checked me and known I was venge.

[Ausuka]

I think implosion is almost definitely town, to be clear

[Harley Quinn]

Ari, Ausuka, Dwlee, Bella, Roden, Gamma all town. I’m very convinced of this. Titus, probably, Implosion maybe? STD who knows?

Who else is left other than Enchant?

[Harley Quinn]

I think implosion is almost definitely town, to be clear

Well my solve would probably be Enchant/STD.

If that doesn’t end the game, than I’m obviously reading someone wrong. It obviously means that you were the target not Ari.

Maybe Titus? Idk. I’m running out of trs.

[Ausuka]

Why is Dwlee locktown

Also, why does my phone autocorrect Dwlee to Delete? That one's rhetorical, I don't expect you to answer I'm just annoyed by it

[Ausuka]

My solve would be Enchant and Dwlee probably, I'm not nearly as sure as you seem to be though

[Ausuka]

I'll go for enchant today if I have to I just think it's mechanically suboptimal and I'm like far from totally convinced he's scum anyway

[Enchant]

Ari, Ausuka, Dwlee, Bella, Roden, Gamma all town. I’m very convinced of this. Titus, probably, Implosion maybe? STD who knows?

Who else is left other than Enchant?

You don't really want to see me walts with conftown status while bulletproof, do you?

[Harley Quinn]

I just don’t understand why scum wouldn’t have targeted Ari but fliiped scum!Wallflower doesn’t make these posts.

[Ausuka]

Wallflower is still alive right

[Enchant]

I just don’t understand why scum wouldn’t have targeted Ari but fliiped scum!Wallflower doesn’t make these posts.

Or you are bad at game.

[Harley Quinn]

Why is Dwlee locktown

Also, why does my phone autocorrect Dwlee to Delete? That one's rhetorical, I don't expect you to answer I'm just annoyed by it

HEM was hardpushing Ari then switched to Dwlee to pocket Math. Well if it is indeed them, then they’ve massively switched up their scumgame because I was hard tr them independently of that.

STD would be the slot I feel the most suss on. Much of his posting just felt fake to me.

Other than Enchant that is.

[Harley Quinn]

Wallflower is still alive right

Isn’t she hammered?

[Harley Quinn]

I just don’t understand why scum wouldn’t have targeted Ari but fliiped scum!Wallflower doesn’t make these posts.

Or you are bad at game.

What is this supposed to mean?

[Ausuka]

HEM was hardpushing Ari then switched to Dwlee to pocket Math.

Is there any reason this couldn't have been distancing

[Ausuka]

Like if we agree hem was probably being bussed I don't see much disadvantage to hem pushing back there

[Roden]

Ari, Ausuka, Dwlee, Bella, Roden, Gamma all town. I’m very convinced of this. Titus, probably, Implosion maybe? STD who knows?

Who else is left other than Enchant?

You don't really want to see me walts with conftown status while bulletproof, do you?

You're not conftown, we've been saying you were going to get elim'd on Day 4 since the start of the game.

Who's scum?

[Ausuka]

Yeah if we don't flip a scum today I think we just flip enchant tomorrow before elo

[Enchant]

Ari, Ausuka, Dwlee, Bella, Roden, Gamma all town. I’m very convinced of this. Titus, probably, Implosion maybe? STD who knows?

Who else is left other than Enchant?

You don't really want to see me walts with conftown status while bulletproof, do you?

You're not conftown, we've been saying you were going to get elim'd on Day 4 since the start of the game.

Who's scum?

I will turn after second scum die and i am jailkept while kill happens.

[Enchant]

OH I DON'T KNOW WHO IS MAFIA.

MAYBE I VOTING THEM.

YOU KNOW. PERHAPS?

[Harley Quinn]

HEM was hardpushing Ari then switched to Dwlee to pocket Math.

Is there any reason this couldn't have been distancing

I mean it’s possible but I just don’t think so because HEM switched from pushing Ari to Dwlee. so it doesn’t look like distancing to me. Gth, I don’t think scum!HEM would so obviously distance a buddy but Idk but I just don’t think it’s them.

[Harley Quinn]

I just don’t understand why scum wouldn’t have targeted Ari but fliiped scum!Wallflower doesn’t make these posts.

Or you are bad at game.

Why does this post seem informed to me?