Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

hmmm
why are we choosing ejji as leader?

[PenguinPower]

HEAL: NotAHecticAlt

p-edit

we already did

[PenguinPower]

so mad

i waited for ever for that and you just took it from me

[ejjinami]

So convince me why Fidget is scum and I’ll unvote her? Also we have one day left and I have no intention of keeping my vote on a vanity wagon.

Frankly, don’t treat my wariness as a scum-read
I’m not exactly sure how I treat it myself
…and most definitely not rested enough to think about it seriously

consider a RR/FB/Shoshin world

if you want my immediate response, it’s too boring to be true
D1 teams made of low-posters only usually just indicate that scum is skilled and hiding well
which… really means nothing
I mean, we’ll see how the game goes. It makes more sense to think of scum-teams when there’s an opportunity to yeet and player movements can be analyzed
I don't think I can guess the entire scum-team now

[Gamma Emerald]

hmmm
why are we choosing ejji as leader?

question still stands

[Radical Rat]

Anyway, no one's yelled at me about it, and time is starting to become a relevant factor so.

HEAL: Ejjinami
Welcome to leadership

Who’s your preferred second vote rn?

Still probably Andante, nothing's really changed on my read there, and her tendency to obvtown is very good for leading.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

They aren’t going very much against the grain, so I’m just kind of confused where these TRs are coming from

Like Andante was townreading them for that reads list and for “doing stuff” which is like a weird way to characterize their play

[Radical Rat]

hmmm
why are we choosing ejji as leader?

question still stands

Personally, I townread them, and they're very active in driving the game forward.

[ejjinami]

hmmm
why are we choosing ejji as leader?

because I have cookies

and am lowkey shitposting

tbh instead of determining why I'm a wagon it would be more productive to find someone else to wagon instead
especially if you don't think you'll change it
I feel like talking about me at this point is just a poor use of time

[Radical Rat]

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

They aren’t going very much against the grain, so I’m just kind of confused where these TRs are coming from

Like Andante was townreading them for that reads list and for “doing stuff” which is like a weird way to characterize their play

And what is "going against the grain" here?

I was the first to heal Andante, I was at least one of the first to start scumreading Not Hectic, and while I was rather late on healing ejj, It's not like I'm just sheeping everyone else blindly.

[Radical Rat]

Really not fond of the shoshin pushing now though, like. I get being wary, but it's lazy and frankly a bit mean to just automatically scumread someone for flaking on a game. They'll either get in here and post and we can judge that, or their replacement will. And to suggest that I must be defending a partner simply because I don't want to assume someone who literally just isn't here is scum.... absolutely absurd, really.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

They aren’t going very much against the grain, so I’m just kind of confused where these TRs are coming from

Like Andante was townreading them for that reads list and for “doing stuff” which is like a weird way to characterize their play

And what is "going against the grain" here?

I was the first to heal Andante, I was at least one of the first to start scumreading Not Hectic, and while I was rather late on healing ejj, It's not like I'm just sheeping everyone else blindly.

True about andante looking at your iso, but i don’t think this is true in the not hectic case. I think Loki and maybe one or two other ppl were scumreading there?

[ejjinami]

Who is healing me? I'm pretty sure Loki is, I didn't notice others. Unless I'm being obtuse, I don't get why you reference worry towards people voting me so much.

I suppose you believe in your personality based read earlier -- or is it something else I did perhaps? I don't really mind either way, I'm just curious

Aisa did seriously suggest it
and loki followed
sorry, you’re right. I exacerbated
The fact that I don’t understand those reads and that they’re strong, freaked me out… Ignore it, it wasn’t logical

I mean, it’s not really like I had a strong read. honestly, at this moment I’m not even that interested in determining if my gut-feeling makes sense or not. Dunno how visible it is, I’m tired af
as unfair as it is, I’m just being stubborn because I was unable to find town-tells for you even when rested and I don’t remember anyone writing anything meaningful about you either

If you're around I'd be interesting in discussing why you think it necessary to heal Andante specifically (despite what you said at beginning of the game).

if you want an absolutely honest answer, my actions right now aren’t logical.
I’m tired after a day of work and feel myself getting paranoid over the people I haven’t heard anything townie from recently
Just based on my emotions rn- I’d rather heal hectic rather than aisa (despite my previous reads being exactly opposite).
This is not logical. I didn’t logically reconsider aisa’s alignment.
I feel like I’m also partially rejecting the idea of your heal so strongly just because in this state, my brain wants to get emotionally attached to some sort of idea and just stick to it.
(that’s also what you saw when I misremembered how many people voted you)
sorry for that, I’m partially fighting against it. I’m being vocal but won’t make any serious decisions in this mindset

my idea of healing andante isn’t logical either. I’m uncertain in any read I don’t “feel” at this very moment and that’s making me nervous. Talking about healing andante is a way for me to run away from the pressure of having to make a serious decision of who the other leader will be… like, frankly I’m just sheeping loki lol

but like, yeah. I’ll try to reconsider after seriously resting and looking at stuff without the emotional bias

To summarize: I am aware that my thoughts right now aren’t logical. Although they are very real to me right now, I’m not treating them seriously. In this very moment, I’d appreciate it if you just treated me as a clown or trigger for thoughts
or just anything that progresses the game but shouldn’t be taken too seriously
All of this may easily change once I rest up and think about it seriously later

[Loki Dokie]

HEAL: NotAHecticAlt

p-edit

we already did

so mad

i waited for ever for that and you just took it from me

Are you not going to give any reasoning for this vote?

Really not fond of the shoshin pushing now though, like. I get being wary, but it's lazy and frankly a bit mean to just automatically scumread someone for flaking on a game. They'll either get in here and post and we can judge that, or their replacement will. And to suggest that I must be defending a partner simply because I don't want to assume someone who literally just isn't here is scum.... absolutely absurd, really.

Shoshin is being replaced.

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

They aren’t going very much against the grain, so I’m just kind of confused where these TRs are coming from

Like Andante was townreading them for that reads list and for “doing stuff” which is like a weird way to characterize their play

And what is "going against the grain" here?

I was the first to heal Andante, I was at least one of the first to start scumreading Not Hectic, and while I was rather late on healing ejj, It's not like I'm just sheeping everyone else blindly.

True about andante looking at your iso, but i don’t think this is true in the not hectic case. I think Loki and maybe one or two other ppl were scumreading there?

I honestly don’t know what to think anymore about NAHA.

[Firebringer]

Does knowing who I am change your read in any shape or form? If so, how?

Yes ur confirmed scum now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Leader Selection:

Ejjinami [6]:

NotAHecticAlt, Andante, Aisa, Fidget, Cat Scratch Fever, Radical Rat
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NotAHecticAlt [4]:

Roden, Firebringer, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower

Cat Scratch Fever [2]:

Aisa, NotAHecticAlt

Aisa [1]:

Ejjinami

Radical Rat [1]:

Andante

Loki Dokie [1]:

Firebringer

Fidget [1]:

Loki Dokie

not voting [2]:

Toogeloo, Gamma Emerald

Mod Note: Toogeloo replaces Shoshin

Event

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-21 21:00:00)

[Firebringer]

PenguinPower - The grifter. Would sell five people the same bridge. That he has no rights to sell.
Shoshin - The illusionist Makes you think she isn't here even when her name is clearly in the player list.
Ejjinami - The brains of the operation. Will play 3d chess all around you while you are playing 1d chess.

why are you scumreading ejjinami?

and the fact that they're likely to be leader, does that worry you at all?

you really could be asking better questions here tbh
frankly speaking with your level of involvement, I’m more surprised that you do strongly agree with the town-read

talk to me about rat.

What would be better questions to ask? I think it would be a towny reaction to see your scumread get voted up, and try to push back but tbh fb doesn’t seem concerned about that playing out

Why? I think you’re probably my top townread right now.

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

i support our robot overlords

[Loki Dokie]

Leader Selection:

Ejjinami [6]:

NotAHecticAlt, Andante, Aisa, Fidget, Cat Scratch Fever, Radical Rat
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NotAHecticAlt [4]:

Roden, Firebringer, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower

Cat Scratch Fever [2]:

Aisa, NotAHecticAlt

Aisa [1]:

Ejjinami

Radical Rat [1]:

Andante

Loki Dokie [1]:

Firebringer

Fidget [1]:

Loki Dokie

not voting [2]:

Toogeloo, Gamma Emerald

Mod Note: Toogeloo replaces Shoshin

Event

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-21 21:00:00)

Where is the Andante wagon? @Pooky?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if there are errors with the VC you should let me know whose vote I am not counting and I will check to make sure it's correct.

You can PM me to avoid using up your post count for VC errors - I do everything by hand so I may make mistakes

[Firebringer]

Holy shit we got toogeloo....will this be the first ever game that toogeloo has gotten scum because he replaced in :O

[ejjinami]

PenguinPower - The grifter. Would sell five people the same bridge. That he has no rights to sell.
Shoshin - The illusionist Makes you think she isn't here even when her name is clearly in the player list.
Ejjinami - The brains of the operation. Will play 3d chess all around you while you are playing 1d chess.

why are you scumreading ejjinami?

and the fact that they're likely to be leader, does that worry you at all?

you really could be asking better questions here tbh
frankly speaking with your level of involvement, I’m more surprised that you do strongly agree with the town-read

talk to me about rat.

What would be better questions to ask? I think it would be a towny reaction to see your scumread get voted up, and try to push back but tbh fb doesn’t seem concerned about that playing out

Why? I think you’re probably my top townread right now.

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

Get original takes. That’s what I’m trying to say

Eijj I think Fidget reads really townie to me but I obviously have to hammer a wagon come deadline but I’m vibing with a lot of her takes and really don’t see why she’s scum here?

If you want to elaborate on that, please do
I will consider it seriously tomorrow.

Anyway, no one's yelled at me about it, and time is starting to become a relevant factor so.

HEAL: Ejjinami
Welcome to leadership

good choice.

don't kill me

[/spoiler]

[ejjinami]

HEAL: Andante

[ejjinami]

NotAHecticAlt [4]: Roden, Firebringer, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower

:/
mmmmm

last thing before I dip...
although I liked the progression, this wagon really doesn't make me feel safe
(also kinda ironic hectic is being healed by their entire scum-team guess except for shoshin)

but yeah... not exactly a wagon composition I'd trust

[NotAHecticAlt]

NotAHecticAlt [4]: Roden, Firebringer, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower

:/
mmmmm

last thing before I dip...
although I liked the progression, this wagon really doesn't make me feel safe

(also kinda ironic hectic is being healed by their entire scum-team guess except for shoshin)

but yeah... not exactly a wagon composition I'd trust

explain this, now.

[ejjinami]

Your scum team guess rodent FB, shoshin
Oh wait, you scum-read eat instead of roden
Crap
Sorry
Lemme go to sleep