Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[NotAHecticAlt]

mmm I don't wanna elect not hectic though

skill issue

[NotAHecticAlt]

hi toog sorry for the rand

[Firebringer]

sorry dk. trying to campaign for you here, but voters are picky these days.
They keep talking about wanting THINGS from their elected leaders and when they ask me what can nothectic do for them, i don't have a response.
What should I tell the people to get u leader

[PenguinPower]

"here's a free bridge"

[Andante]

What should I tell the people to get u leader

what about telling your candidate to not tell the voters they have a skill issue...

[Firebringer]

"here's a free bridge"

good platform. Id be voting you if it wasn't for I already bought two bridges from you and have yet to see my bridge

What should I tell the people to get u leader

what about telling your candidate to not tell the voters they have a skill issue...

That is part of not hectic platform and appeal. Can't be a flip flopper now!

[Toogeloo]

Skimmed through page 8.
Got bored.

HEAL: Radical Rat

Probably my biggest town read take away from the first few pages.

I don't think a second vote matters. I'll just change my first as needed.

[Toogeloo]

Also getting town vibes from Gamma.

[Firebringer]

One day i will figure out how people read gamma. Or not.
seriously never understood how gamma gets townread or scumread. What is there to read into. What tells u anything. I will never know.

Strangely this is probably opinion others have on me.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

"strangely"

I feel like you deliberately play in an opaque style

[Firebringer]

im pretty much an open book when people talk to me one on one, but when im left to my own devices i just screw around and spew random thoughts that is not directed at anyone so im not trying to reach a specific audience

[Toogeloo]

I liked the way Gamma broke down their CSF read in the early posts. I'm also not really seeing much of an agenda from Gamma. I've had some success in reading Gamma in the past, but I wouldn't say I can read them accurately.

I don't really want you in a leadership role, but it's mostly because I don't like you...

...r posting style.

[Firebringer]

i don't want to be in leadership role either

[Firebringer]

wait do u actually not like me or is that just a joke

[Toogeloo]

Just a joke.

/sigh

[Toogeloo]

I don't actually "not like" anyone.

[Firebringer]

you need to start collecting an enemy list then.
What is life without mortal enemies. I have like 5 on the site.

[Fidget]

She’s responding to everything equally. Shows no selection for posts – which implies that she’s power-posting out of a feeling of obligation
That alone makes me seriously against town-reading her for being “chill” and “helpful”
It feels like personality at best and scummy at worst (talking about everything equally and wallposting could be a sign that she’s just doing it because she thinks that’s the townie thing to do)

This is just not something I understand. What does it mean to select posts "equally"? I respond to what interests me, not a predefined number of posts from each player.

How is scumreading N-Hect going against the flow?

let me redefine “going against the flow”
Along with their takes on FB and PP- to me this was an indicator that they were willing to take initiative and create their own pushes
Notice how few people were talking about that trio – Making reads on people no one is interested in – is imo a sign of initiative and a sign of going against the flow
Considering the fact that they ONLY pushed strong town the entire phase and were just simply ignoring all opportunities to push less safe heals – I think it’s townie

RR comes off as not having takes in most of their posts,

that’s cat scratch to me
RR made reads on people no one was interested in – imo- that’s genuine thought
Cat scratch talked about those everyone was interested in (myself/andante (if I remember correctly))
while their only scum-read was a low-poster (rat) – imo – that sounds like the lack of individual thinking

That's why I think we probably just disagree about the way it struck us, and I'm not sure there's too much else to investigate... we're not even really close

fair

Nyeh. Don't really see it the same way at all. But that's okay, I think we're going places now.

Also, I thought the post cap being 150 per phase was high enough as to be largely inconsequential, but at the rate some of you are going... Yikes.

I stand by my Andante heal for now, she's overthinking things a bit, but looks plenty Town to me. Firebringer's point that he'd be electing her as scum is valid, but if scum wants to help elect a Townie as leader, I'm sure not gonna be the one to stop them.

I think Hectic is probably Town. Which is to say that the alt that ISN'T Hectic must not be. Really, just not a fan of all the grandstanding, feels like a spicy mix of LAMIST and Too Scummy To Be Scum, so they're off my list of viable leaders.

Firebringer I think is genuinely Town here, though largely gut at this point. Wouldn't want him as leader though, because while I do enjoy a good shitpost every now and then... I'd rather someone more reliable take the reins.

Ejj I could go either way on. Leaning Town for now.

Everyone else.... No terribly strong opinions on. Mildly sus of Penguin, but that's just like. A vague feeling, less than even gut.

Ejj feels like the Town version of The Alt (not) Formerly Known As Hectic.

Like, they're similarly hyperposting, both coming off as somewhat arrogant, and tinged with LAMIST.... But for reasons I can't quite articulate, Ejj's posting seems genuine, while citceH's doesn't.

I think rat has gotten easy trs for not doing much, and that makes me wary.

They aren’t going very much against the grain, so I’m just kind of confused where these TRs are coming from

Like Andante was townreading them for that reads list and for “doing stuff” which is like a weird way to characterize their play

Yeah, I see it like this. Who can say.

Spoiler: long ejj post

Who is healing me? I'm pretty sure Loki is, I didn't notice others. Unless I'm being obtuse, I don't get why you reference worry towards people voting me so much.

I suppose you believe in your personality based read earlier -- or is it something else I did perhaps? I don't really mind either way, I'm just curious

Aisa did seriously suggest it
and loki followed
sorry, you’re right. I exacerbated
The fact that I don’t understand those reads and that they’re strong, freaked me out… Ignore it, it wasn’t logical

I mean, it’s not really like I had a strong read. honestly, at this moment I’m not even that interested in determining if my gut-feeling makes sense or not. Dunno how visible it is, I’m tired af
as unfair as it is, I’m just being stubborn because I was unable to find town-tells for you even when rested and I don’t remember anyone writing anything meaningful about you either

If you're around I'd be interesting in discussing why you think it necessary to heal Andante specifically (despite what you said at beginning of the game).

if you want an absolutely honest answer, my actions right now aren’t logical.
I’m tired after a day of work and feel myself getting paranoid over the people I haven’t heard anything townie from recently
Just based on my emotions rn- I’d rather heal hectic rather than aisa (despite my previous reads being exactly opposite).
This is not logical. I didn’t logically reconsider aisa’s alignment.
I feel like I’m also partially rejecting the idea of your heal so strongly just because in this state, my brain wants to get emotionally attached to some sort of idea and just stick to it.
(that’s also what you saw when I misremembered how many people voted you)
sorry for that, I’m partially fighting against it. I’m being vocal but won’t make any serious decisions in this mindset

my idea of healing andante isn’t logical either. I’m uncertain in any read I don’t “feel” at this very moment and that’s making me nervous. Talking about healing andante is a way for me to run away from the pressure of having to make a serious decision of who the other leader will be… like, frankly I’m just sheeping loki lol

but like, yeah. I’ll try to reconsider after seriously resting and looking at stuff without the emotional bias

To summarize: I am aware that my thoughts right now aren’t logical. Although they are very real to me right now, I’m not treating them seriously. In this very moment, I’d appreciate it if you just treated me as a clown or trigger for thoughts
or just anything that progresses the game but shouldn’t be taken too seriously
All of this may easily change once I rest up and think about it seriously later

Mafia's not always logical. I think the reason i was asking that question was just to see what exactly was the cause for the worry behind people voting me, as well as why the Andante vote was such a big deal.

Well, you've laid your thought process out in abundance, so thank you.

[Firebringer]

anyways toog, any reason ur voting to just heal RR and not also gamma if u townread both or just feel like voting one person for leader now.

Also hi Figet how r u doing

[Firebringer]

theres actually a few good reasons to vote nothectic.
1) increases likelihood nothectic is night killed
2) see 1

[Fidget]

im curious if nothectic,andante, aisa, fidget, cat scratch fever and radical rat still have second vote powers to nom two people or not since eji won already. My assumption is no but nowhere does it say you can't.

Pretty sure we can. Just can't find a good counterwagon to N-Hectic that i townread at least as much as N-Hectic

[Fidget]

anyways toog, any reason ur voting to just heal RR and not also gamma if u townread both or just feel like voting one person for leader now.

Also hi Figet how r u doing

Hi firefloofer im doing pretty, good kind of baked, it's been a fairly good day. How do u how do

theres actually a few good reasons to vote nothectic.
1) increases likelihood nothectic is night killed
2) see 1

Hmmm I hadn't considered this angle.

[NotAHecticAlt]

theres actually a few good reasons to vote nothectic.
1) increases likelihood nothectic is night killed
2) see 1

i mean if i get a gun as part of being a leader im probably blasting you so hf

[Firebringer]

theres actually a few good reasons to vote nothectic.
1) increases likelihood nothectic is night killed
2) see 1

i mean if i get a gun as part of being a leader im probably blasting you so hf

Do ittttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Ill laugh at u in the dead thread so much

[Toogeloo]

Why is hectic a likely night kill option?