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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:19 pm

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In post 1748, Corwinoid wrote:Elsa, the read you missed is who the other pr is. I tried to tell you this.
... Does not compute.
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:25 pm

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I know, but I don't want to say more. I think there's a very good probability I'm right though; your claim made it click.
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:36 pm

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I have no idea what Corwin is saying but I don't think it's anything we should press on this late. I'm running out of time tonight though. I can't be late tomorrow.

At least people are finally posting again.
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:37 pm

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You know PR hunting isn't something you're supposed to admit too, right?
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:37 pm

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In post 1752, Crescent wrote:I have no idea what Corwin is saying but I don't think it's anything we should press on this late. I'm running out of time tonight though. I can't be late tomorrow.

At least people are finally posting again.
And I think you're town, but you keep doing incredibly anti-town shit. Having a hard time reconciling that right now.
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:40 pm

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In post 1745, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 1653, Crescent wrote:I do have one problem with Elsa's claim though.

The redacted seems to insinuate yet another power role that hasn't been claimed. This makes at least 5 town power roles. For a setup that has to 2+1, that seems like a lot of power.
In post 1655, Crescent wrote:Detective+Vig+Gibus+Elsa+Redacted = 5.

I find it curious why Elsa would just sit there and accept Gibus' claim.
I never did answer this but fme isn't games like this like 3 scum 5-6 Vanilla townie and 4-5 PRs? The more scum power means more for town as well. And with a role like detective, vig, doc, and BG, I'm assuming at least one more for sure not counting my enabler info.

Oh and this is for Gibus: if we both promise to go on one person they literally can't die. If your role is correct them roleblocking you with notify you what happened, and then instead of the person dying it would just be me. This way we both make sure one guy can't die.

And if the Normal Game Reviewers decided to somehow put two Protectives in a game with a Strongman that's ground for a protest anyway.
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:41 pm

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Not pleased as in they wanted more or as in too much?
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:41 pm

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In post 1754, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 1752, Crescent wrote:I have no idea what Corwin is saying but I don't think it's anything we should press on this late. I'm running out of time tonight though. I can't be late tomorrow.

At least people are finally posting again.
And I think you're town, but you keep doing incredibly anti-town shit. Having a hard time reconciling that right now.
I don't care about looking anti-town is the thing. When I'm town, you
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be paranoid of me. I actively encourage it!
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:41 pm

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In post 1756, Elsa Jay wrote:Not pleased as in they wanted more or as in too much?
As in "Town was overpowered wtf Koba"
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:42 pm

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I'm not talking about paranoid, I'm talking about you actively doing things to harm town. This isn't "I think you're scum", it's "I think you are
hurting our team
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:42 pm

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Vivax (3): Not_Mafia, Corwinoid, Elsa Jay
BlueBloodedToffee (2): gibus, Alexcellent
gibus (1): geraintm
Crescent (1): Vivax
geraintm (1): BlueBloodedToffee

Not voting (2): Crescent, Eiralox


No votes have changed since this VC. This is just a modern-page reminder of where we are.
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:44 pm

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In post 1759, Corwinoid wrote:I'm not talking about paranoid, I'm talking about you actively doing things to harm town. This isn't "I think you're scum", it's "I think you are
hurting our team
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Funny, I've said the same about you sometimes~

But seriously this isn't the time to bicker about this. I think a no-vote is probably the worst thing we can do here.
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:46 pm

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@Crescent & Eiralox, where are your votes going?
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:46 pm

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I feel Gera and Toffee are wasting their votes RN. We should go on Vivax, Toffee, or NotMaf since nobody'll complain there.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:48 pm

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Jesus...
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:48 pm

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Like if we have a no vote and say I, Eiralox, or Alex die. How much information are we actually going to get out of it?
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:51 pm

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In post 1762, Alexcellent wrote:@Crescent & Eiralox, where are your votes going?
I kind of want to vote Gera just to see if it makes him show back up, but I don't have the confidence level he's scum that I would like to have to actually vote him off.

I very very much dislike that he hasn't posted since the claims.

NM is the "safe" vote for if we had no clue whatsoever what to do at the end of the day, but it's not a lotta information either.
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:51 pm

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You are the only one talking about a no vote here. There are two perfectly viable wagons for today: Vivax or BBT. Pick one instead of pushing this incredibly anti-town narrative you're building.
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:52 pm

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In post 1767, Corwinoid wrote:You are the only one talking about a no vote here. There are two perfectly viable wagons for today: Vivax or BBT. Pick one instead of pushing this incredibly anti-town narrative you're building.
Uh.

This was in DIRECT RESPONSE to Elsa bringing up a no vote.

I don't want a no vote.
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:54 pm

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In post 1675, Elsa Jay wrote:Well a mod can't basically only answer a question from either the doctor or the Bodyguard, but it has to be vague enough where he is allowed to say something about it. Basically here.

@UMLAUT: Assuming a Bodyguard and a Doctor exist in this game and they both protect someone together, does the Bodyguard take priority or the Doctor?


Edit: I mean... I would have to admit either I was wrong on Vivax or Toffee. Frankly it seems my options are limited.

UNVOTE: Gibus

I wanna give Toffee a few hours to get online and respond to this before I vote there. I can be convinced to put my vote there if it's horrible.

Basically the only options to me now are Toffee, NotMaf, or possibly No Launch since we actually might not have enough time to do anything with this info and give scum/vigi the option to solve it for us.
^

And she brought it up again as a "If we don't do anything we'll end up with an NL", to which I immediately replied NL is bad.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:55 pm

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It actually kind of pisses me off that Corwin was this short-sighted on this issue that he turned something Elsa said into a basis to personally attack me with 8 hours left in the day.
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:56 pm

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In post 1765, Crescent wrote:Like if we have a no vote and say I, Eiralox, or Alex die. How much information are we actually going to get out of it?
Actually quite a lot depending on who gets killed. The "why" of kills is always important.

It's definitely not what I want tho.

Edit: I've said it's an option. Not one I want. Though honestly if the vigi doesn't shoot we go to 9 and end with an extra day of discussion? It's a weird balance.
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:56 pm

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In post 1767, Corwinoid wrote:You are the only one talking about a no vote here. There are two perfectly viable wagons for today: Vivax or BBT. Pick one instead of pushing this incredibly anti-town narrative you're building.
Also I don't like either vote. Most of us don't like either vote. This is the problem we're having right now.

I guess if I had to choose I would go BBT first, but I have no confidence there.
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:57 pm

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In post 1763, Elsa Jay wrote:I feel Gera and Toffee are wasting their votes RN. We should go on Vivax, Toffee, or NotMaf since nobody'll complain there.
No to Vivax, yes to Toffee or NotMaf.

No idea why we have people not voting this late in the day.
Gera hasn't chimed in since the claims but would be very interested to see where his vote ends up.
I can see Toffee's vote on Gera making sense from either aligment, but unless everyone rushes onto Gera I don't think that wagon is happening. His activity is so sporadic that there's a chance he may not pop in before end of day.

P-Edit: I'd rather Toffee over Gera but I'm starting to think we compromise on a NotMafia.

P-Edit 2: Can we stop bickering over NL please.
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:59 pm

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In post 1771, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 1765, Crescent wrote:Like if we have a no vote and say I, Eiralox, or Alex die. How much information are we actually going to get out of it?
Actually quite a lot depending on who gets killed. The "why" of kills is always important.

It's definitely not what I want tho.

Edit: I've said it's an option. Not one I want. Though honestly if the vigi doesn't shoot we go to 9 and end with an extra day of discussion? It's a weird balance.
If vig can shoot again it totally hamstrings them. If they can't it doesn't hurt us
as
much, but we're still going to lose a major voice before coming up with the decision.

The point I made about the three of us is I don't think it really tells us much at all if any of the three of us die. We've said so much in the game that it could be for any number of reasons scum decided to shoot us.
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