Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[Andante]

congrats!

congrats on being townier than me!!!

[PenguinPower]

Gamma Emerald
Aisa
NotAHecticAlt
Fidget
ejjinami
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
Enchant
Loki Dokie

Radical Rat
Toogeloo
PenguinPower
Andante

snapshot of my reads/PoE rn

How am I that low in that list?

because it's a bad list

[ejjinami]

Gamma Emerald
Aisa
NotAHecticAlt
Fidget
ejjinami
Cat Scratch Fever
Firebringer
Enchant
Loki Dokie

Radical Rat
Toogeloo
PenguinPower
Andante

snapshot of my reads/PoE rn

why is aisa so high???

[Andante]

yoo all my SRs are at the top of Gamma's list lol that's funny

[Gamma Emerald]

Almost everyone who uses alts is super obvious when they do. It must be some kind of phenomena.

it's really hard to play an alt as if you're new
so yeah alts are pretty obv but that doesn't mean they can be ID'd readily
typically I need to play 20 questions with someone in order to guess their alt
some players tho, like Koba, are actually blatant

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Mm Toog could be scum, yeah. I feel like they're just commenting on random stuff

[Loki Dokie]

Koba why you need alts if it's always obvious who you are?

Like

WHAT POINT

Almost everyone who uses alts is super obvious when they do. It must be some kind of phenomena.

It just blows my mind that someone would genuinely sr me for differences in posting length in two games where only one of those games had a post cap, because it freaking makes no logical sense.

Are you saying EJJ is scum because you think their reasoning is illogical?

They could be, idk.

[PenguinPower]

Mm Toog could be scum, yeah. I feel like they're just commenting on random stuff

don't disagree with this

[Aisa]

@ejji
Think you may be better off trying to judge whether you believe some of the players who have played with Gamma before. I don't have a good sense of what they're capable of.

I keep reading the game and assuming that Gamma is town, like I forget the possibility that they could even be scum, which seems promising. However they could just be good at townspewing. IIRC I think they also played somewhat passively towards the start of the game, I didn't feel like they were pushing anything which also seems promising.

So like, town lean gun to the head, but not something I would act on before going and metaing them a bit.
Maybe I'll go do that and come back in 5 minutes

@other people
Hey guys, while I get frustration at being scumread, I feel like it would be appreciated if you could hold off on those thoughts literally just for the next 40 minutes

[Gamma Emerald]

lmao so much controversy on a list that was pretty much beat-for-beat in playerlist order
I just took my non-TRs out of the top block and put them in the bottom one

[Cat Scratch Fever]

is that list ordered? or is it just town and scum blocks

@Gamma

[Fidget]

duuuuuuuuuude Loki's vibe in https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
(town game) is so different than here

The reads are straight to the point and there's much less AtE, especially when responding to scum-reads
even tho he does get annoyed by scum-reads as town, he complains about it in 1- sentences max and goes back to solving right away
not like here where it's literally several dramatic walls one after another
reading further but lol YEAH I don't trust this at all
It feels as if he's trying to portray his reactions clearly here and make sure that people do see it - TLDR - the lamist mindset may truly be scummy

getting more and more convinced that the town-read on gamma might just be whiteknighting

Loki gets bogged down with others reading them unfavorably fairly consistently. I never really observed them handling it better as town. It probably depends on more than alignment.

pedit: Gamma's list is fine lol

[Toogeloo]

I could be on anyone's team if either of you is feeling me town. I haven't been in the game long enough to really town tell I'm guessing. I'd assume both leaders should have at least 5 reads they could (hopefully) trust on their team. I'm just along for the ride right now.

[Loki Dokie]

lmao so much controversy on a list that was pretty much beat-for-beat in playerlist order
I just took my non-TRs out of the top block and put them in the bottom one

So it’s not ordered then?

[Gamma Emerald]

yoo all my SRs are at the top of Gamma's list lol that's funny

that's kinda why I don't TR you tho, is our reads don't mesh
not that I particularly expect them to but I dislike that you're pushing folks I think are town

[Gamma Emerald]

lmao so much controversy on a list that was pretty much beat-for-beat in playerlist order
I just took my non-TRs out of the top block and put them in the bottom one

So it’s not ordered then?

YES

[Loki Dokie]

duuuuuuuuuude Loki's vibe in https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
(town game) is so different than here

The reads are straight to the point and there's much less AtE, especially when responding to scum-reads
even tho he does get annoyed by scum-reads as town, he complains about it in 1- sentences max and goes back to solving right away
not like here where it's literally several dramatic walls one after another
reading further but lol YEAH I don't trust this at all
It feels as if he's trying to portray his reactions clearly here and make sure that people do see it - TLDR - the lamist mindset may truly be scummy

getting more and more convinced that the town-read on gamma might just be whiteknighting

Loki gets bogged down with others reading them unfavorably fairly consistently. I never really observed them handling it better as town. It probably depends on more than alignment.

pedit: Gamma's list is fine lol

@Fidget, you know who I am right? You obviously must.

[ejjinami]

@ejji
Think you may be better off trying to judge whether you believe some of the players who have played with Gamma before. I don't have a good sense of what they're capable of.

I keep reading the game and assuming that Gamma is town, like I forget the possibility that they could even be scum, which seems promising. However they could just be good at townspewing. IIRC I think they also played somewhat passively towards the start of the game, I didn't feel like they were pushing anything which also seems promising.

So like, town lean gun to the head, but not something I would act on before going and metaing them a bit.
Maybe I'll go do that and come back in 5 minutes

@other people
Hey guys, while I get frustration at being scumread, I feel like it would be appreciated if you could hold off on those thoughts literally just for the next 40 minutes

thank you XD
I appreciate it

[Fidget]

I could be on anyone's team if either of you is feeling me town. I haven't been in the game long enough to really town tell I'm guessing. I'd assume both leaders should have at least 5 reads they could (hopefully) trust on their team. I'm just along for the ride right now.

Depends on what skillsets you're bringing to the time travelin crew. Can you drive a DeLorean? Swindle people out of bridges? Will you bring the snacks?

[Gamma Emerald]

because it's a bad list

btw is this just bcuz you're at the bottom?

[PenguinPower]

because it's a bad list

btw is this just bcuz you're at the bottom?

No - it was based on the assumption it was ordered which ya know, wasn't clear since you were at the top and that's usually how ordered lists start.

[Loki Dokie]

I could be on anyone's team if either of you is feeling me town. I haven't been in the game long enough to really town tell I'm guessing. I'd assume both leaders should have at least 5 reads they could (hopefully) trust on their team. I'm just along for the ride right now.

I honestly don’t know what to make of you. Shoshin flaking just looks seriously bad for you whatever you are and imo. I don’t see you’ve so far done anything to give me confidence you’re town.

[Toogeloo]

I could be on anyone's team if either of you is feeling me town. I haven't been in the game long enough to really town tell I'm guessing. I'd assume both leaders should have at least 5 reads they could (hopefully) trust on their team. I'm just along for the ride right now.

Depends on what skillsets you're bringing to the time travelin crew. Can you drive a DeLorean? Swindle people out of bridges? Will you bring the snacks?

I can wear a red shirt pretty well. Is that the right Sci Fi?

[Gamma Emerald]

because it's a bad list

btw is this just bcuz you're at the bottom?

No - it was based on the assumption it was ordered which ya know, wasn't clear since you were at the top and that's usually how ordered lists start.

fair, I don't often include myself in lists even if it's a townblock

[ejjinami]

if Loki is WKing me I'm not seeing it
once again tho, can't exactly establish what I think it's based on without revealing things I shouldn't

then just enjoy my town-read on you
If loki is town, the merit is 100% theirs. They're just playing well

esghidnkf
actually, are you trying to say that you think the town-read on you makes sense or that scum!loki would have never town-read you that strongly?

No keep your scumread on me. I refuse to be on your team.

to be absolutely honest, I do think the anger is kinda townie