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[Roden]

Well maybe I'm a tiny bit paranoid anyway. Roden you call NM a hard town read in 2161. You dialled that back by saying you might be wrong but why vote him here?

I am a tiny bit worried NM is the dedicated miselim for today but also he seems like he's openwolfing so maybe I should just ISO him and then report back.

I've been convinced that NM is town and been wrong and reevaluated in the past. Him vs Nancy slot felt very townie Day 1, but at this point he's gone completely flaccid. I took his Pain potion claim at face value Day 2 but tbh there's no actual proof that he actually did try to target Nancy N1. He doesn't care about anything going on now and isn't trying to solve or ask questions. I think if he's scum then he's trying to anti-spew since he's likely to flip today.

Other reason I'm voting him is that if he's town then scum almost always sets him up to be mis-elim'd and takes advantage of his quick hammers. I don't think any of that has happened here, people seem to be suspicious of him but there hasn't been a hard push there like there was against Gamma before you replaced in. Like, if I'm reading the game state right, he's probably the least controversial elim here, but there isn't much momentum.

Side note, and this is very angle-shooty, but I think Gamma spewed your slot as town. Plus I just agree with Johnny and like your posts so far.

[Roden]

Oh in case y'all haven't picked up on in NM hurt portioned kitty last night

I think I missed this, where was this said? It's not in NM's ISO.

NM prob not maf, what point in telling that you rolled pain potions twice.

VOTE: Roden

How do you know he rolled Pain potions twice? Where's the proof he targeted who he claims to have targeted?

[The toad]

Enchant why is it Roden, I tried ISOing you in case I forgot the reasoning but didn't see any.

I like his last post, broadly agree with the thoughts on NM today, especially that he might be antispewing wolf.

I definitely need convincing if you and NM are both town here

[The toad]

Is Nm/STD/Enchant too easy?

[The toad]

It sounded like Johnny was claiming harmography potion unless I'm misunderstanding the mech of it

[Roden]

It sounded like Johnny was claiming harmography potion unless I'm misunderstanding the mech of it

Oh, ok then Enchant TMI'd something from the scum PT, since NM never claimed to target anyone N2, but Enchant thought that he had. I can see Johnny is claiming a Harmography result after looking back through his posts, but Enchant doesn't seem to be talking about that.

A bunch of pre-flip info but: on NM red flip, Kitty is conftown and Enchant is...maybe not confscum but really close to it. You and Johnny are really townie, and I think Dwlee is also town in that scenario since they argued against my theory that Kitty vs NM could be SvS, and that just seems like an anti-scum/anti-opportunistic take to have.

But that just leaves STD as the last scum and I don't think it's him...

[The toad]

I was going to dispute that it was a slip but Enchant does say 'telling' implying NM did it voluntarily. Probably should have kept my mouth shut about the harmography thing.

[The toad]

I mean I guess it could just be weird wording since Johnny's reveal came before Enchant's post.

It's a bit of evidence towards nm/Enchant though.

[The toad]

Is there a reason you really townread STD? I disliked his d2

[The toad]

I mean you did say he felt really genuine earlier but that's not something I can engage with since I don't see it personally

Also fmpov he's been pushing a townslot in Melo and I think if he were town mafia would use that to push against me more than they have been doing

[Roden]

I mean I guess it could just be weird wording since Johnny's reveal came before Enchant's post.

It's a bit of evidence towards nm/Enchant though.

Yeah, that's why I don't think it's 100% certain that it's a slip, it could just be weird wording.

Is there a reason you really townread STD? I disliked his d2

I mean you did say he felt really genuine earlier but that's not something I can engage with since I don't see it personally

Also fmpov he's been pushing a townslot in Melo and I think if he were town mafia would use that to push against me more than they have been doing

His Day 1 play just felt agenda-less to me. He did a heavy amount of AtE when it wasn't really necessary that could've easily gotten him voted out. He also did this weird emotional manipulation with me that also felt unnecessary if he were scum.

if we're just claiming

i JK'd kitty last night

Depending on his claimed action N2, his N1 action seems townie.

Kitty. I claimed to JK him so he could literally claim any potion action if he believed me

True but I’ve already said I tr him, so why pocket me?

So what is your take re: HEM/Roden? Still think TYT?

Yes

This also seems townie + he didn't push me after the HEM green flip, so it's consistent with what he'd said.

[Enchant]

Oh in case y'all haven't picked up on in NM hurt portioned kitty last night

I think I missed this, where was this said? It's not in NM's ISO.

NM prob not maf, what point in telling that you rolled pain potions twice.

VOTE: Roden

How do you know he rolled Pain potions twice? Where's the proof he targeted who he claims to have targeted?

Roden trying to play dumbass to prove point which can't work.

Mafia more likely to claim they rolled 0, or atleast 1 pains, considering mafia have more rolling chance for pain.

[Roden]

Oh in case y'all haven't picked up on in NM hurt portioned kitty last night

I think I missed this, where was this said? It's not in NM's ISO.

NM prob not maf, what point in telling that you rolled pain potions twice.

VOTE: Roden

How do you know he rolled Pain potions twice? Where's the proof he targeted who he claims to have targeted?

Roden trying to play dumbass to prove point which can't work.

Mafia more likely to claim they rolled 0, or atleast 1 pains, considering mafia have more rolling chance for pain.

If NM is town and using two Pain potions then wtf are scum doing? Only Flea died so far.

Also it isn't AI to claim to have more than one Pain potion. Facebones was town and died with two Pain potions.

Do you think Kitty is scum?

[Enchant]

Oh in case y'all haven't picked up on in NM hurt portioned kitty last night

I think I missed this, where was this said? It's not in NM's ISO.

NM prob not maf, what point in telling that you rolled pain potions twice.

VOTE: Roden

How do you know he rolled Pain potions twice? Where's the proof he targeted who he claims to have targeted?

Roden trying to play dumbass to prove point which can't work.

Mafia more likely to claim they rolled 0, or atleast 1 pains, considering mafia have more rolling chance for pain.

If NM is town and using two Pain potions then wtf are scum doing? Only Flea died so far.

NM was Jailkept n1 by Johnny, not surprised.

More over, NM!Maf have no point in just claiming to throwing pain at Kitty, if Johhnny is town he can just legitimelly continue to tunnel and throw all pains at him without becoming suspicious. I know more about NM logic than whole game combined.

Team is You+Kitty+Third.
Kitty was wounded by Pain, we will kill him at night.

[Roden]

Oh in case y'all haven't picked up on in NM hurt portioned kitty last night

I think I missed this, where was this said? It's not in NM's ISO.

NM prob not maf, what point in telling that you rolled pain potions twice.

VOTE: Roden

How do you know he rolled Pain potions twice? Where's the proof he targeted who he claims to have targeted?

Roden trying to play dumbass to prove point which can't work.

Mafia more likely to claim they rolled 0, or atleast 1 pains, considering mafia have more rolling chance for pain.

If NM is town and using two Pain potions then wtf are scum doing? Only Flea died so far.

NM was Jailkept n1 by Johnny, not surprised.

More over, NM!Maf have no point in just claiming to throwing pain at Kitty, if Johhnny is town he can just legitimelly continue to tunnel and throw all pains at him without becoming suspicious. I know more about NM logic than whole game combined.

Team is You+Kitty+Third.
Kitty was wounded by Pain, we will kill him at night.

That doesn't answer the question, and you cut the rest of my post out...

[Roden]

If NM think Kitty is scum then why isn't he pushing Kitty?

[KittyTacky]

I've been feeling just... out of this game. Sorry for inactivity.

Enchant is so coin flip

Enchant is very hard to read, he's like a slightly-less-trollish NM.

[KittyTacky]

Oh in case y'all haven't picked up on in NM hurt portioned kitty last night

He's scared scum.

[KittyTacky]

NM is hard to read but I played a few games with him before and he was town and didn't play like that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I think I missed this, where was this said? It's not in NM's ISO.

I harmography kitty n2

[Dwlee99]

The toad
Enchant
Save The Dragons
Roden

Contains two scum imo

[Dwlee99]

I don't want to vote Kitty or NM cause they aren't aligned and therefore flipping in there is at best coin flip probably

[Save The Dragons]

this game

[Dwlee99]

The toad
Enchant
Save The Dragons
Roden

Contains two scum imo

At least**

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: kitty