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[Meuh]

Also what wagons are there to derail? Like from looking at the votecounts, there's no votes on Faker anywhere day 3, and the peak of the wagon on me is 2 votes from you and Skitter. (Which isn't that significant especially considering neither of you are conf townies)

This doesn't really make sense

[Meuh]

VOTE COUNT 1.13 -- FINAL

[7]

Beat

: Titus, Meuh, GuiltyLion, marcistar, Gamma Emerald, Aristeia, Isis

[3]

Aristeia

: skitter30, Beat, the worst

[1]

Titus

: SirCakez

[1]

skitter30

: The Ugly Fruit

[1]

Not voting

: Pavowski

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day one ends in (expired on 2022-06-12 18:48:05)

MOD NOTES

• please let me know if there are any errors, i do this by hand.

• Gamma Emerald and skitter30 currently v/la.

• have fun!

And where's the scum on the Beat wagon? Why is this being ignored?

I know I looked at the Beat wagon earlier but like meh it's not that compelling to me anymore
There doesn't need to be any
Like look at this votecount
7 people voting for: townie
3 people voting for: townie
1 person voting for: townie
Fruit being Fruit
Pav not voting

Scum hopping on counter-wagons to a townie lim by also voting townies really isn't absurd. It's a fountain of juicy juicy towncred
The concept of scum being spread off-wagon with none of them voting for Beat wouldn't really shock me

[Ydrasse]

VOTE COUNT 3.8

[3]

SirCakez

: GuiltyLion, Meuh, Andante

[2]

Meuh

: skitter30, SirCakez

[1]

Coral

: Faker

[1]

skitter30

: Isis

[4]

Not voting

: marcistar, Titus, Coral, Aristeia

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day two ends in (expired on 2022-06-29 23:42:43)

MOD NOTES

• please let me know if there are any errors, i do this by hand.

• GuiltyLion and SirCakez currently V/LA.

• have fun!

[Meuh]

My argument exists. It boils down to meuh hopping off of pav for unknown reasons and being unabke to adequately explain it

Her reads today are somehat ephemeral as well (why is she voting xakez even??) and she can't really explain her read changes

That's the argument

Pedit
I have no idea what titus wants
Tuf wasnr going tk vote meuh, andante might but is kinda fickle
Isis absolutely will not
Ari is leaning there but not ready to vote
Gl thinks she's kinda scummy but meuh doesnt seem to be his preferred vote

I cant get anyone other than cakez to vote her, i've been trying for several irl days

This is abt as far from inevitable as one can get

3354, 3696, 3810
I don't think you liked these posts but they do exist

[skitter30]

If you're scum with meuh (not saying you are) there isnt really a ton u need to do to prevent the wagon atm beyond, like, not supporting it

I think you're earnestly overrating my royal influence :good:

I went thru all the clears. The votes arent there rn

[skitter30]

I don't think you liked these posts but they do exist

I dont find these posts to be super compelling

[Aristeia]

Meuh if you're town, and your explanation for unvoting is "paranoia" it would be really useful if you explain why you got paranoid and the thought process behind that rather than just pulling meta. ty

[Aristeia]

the thing that really stands out to me for your hop-off of Pavowski during D2 is that you did it in response to Gamma's hard defense of Pavowski and shading of TUF.

but you didn't actually mention anything about Pavowski when you moved to TUF

- it's like you derailed your own wagon on Pavo just as it got steam but you never explained

why

you moved off Pavo in the moment.

[Faker]

Aight time for my latenight coffee, time to read and see what I can do

[Faker]

While I'm reading, this morning does convince me it's not Cakez/Coral btw, unless Cakez finally tapped into his inner 9D galaxy brain chess.

My instinct is back to Coral/skitter if I want to believe in myself, or take the L and let it be some random other team where all of my reads are wrong.

[skitter30]

Ok can u like explain why its not meuh plz and/or why you don't have a problem with her hop off of pav day2?

[Faker]

That is what I am reading right now.

I thought about including a line in 4159 about how I don't see why all 3 of the other prime suspects in my eyes seem happy to vote Meuh if she's scum. If I'm wrong on marcistar or someone wants to fly close to the sun then that's chill I guess.

[skitter30]

Coral is not particularly happy to be voting meuh

The wagon has been exactly me and cakez since like friday or something

[skitter30]

And i've utterly failed to get it higher than that despite trying for like a week

You keep acting like meuh has more support than it actually does

[Faker]

Shrug. Probably bad faith on my end.

You'll get my full answer when I figure out what quotes from you/Coral to pull re: Meuh's vote. The short of it is that I'm doubling down on the read; I was mildly concerned by the vote last night but looking at it in context I see no issue with the progression up to the point of the vote. There's a concern from Coral about her progression on Fruit later down the line to look at but that's it.

[Faker]

Also, there have been at least two indications Coral was willing to vote Meuh. The end of Coral's wall was inconclusive but indicated she was more likely to vote for Meuh over you. I haven't seen her express any desire to vote my slot recently. The second was this in the context of someone accusing her of being partners with Meuh (I think Andante?):

but im willing to vote meuh here, so

Maybe she's got something somewhere about preferring Cakez if I go look again, but if so I missed that when checking after my drive yesterday. She didn't indicate a stomach for me until last night/this morning.

[Faker]

If I had to pick someone to vote at this time, it would probably be Meuh.

Probably not an indicator she'd pick Meuh here.

[Faker]

Anything else you'd like me to completely shut down before I tackle the meat of it, skitter?

[skitter30]

I'm completely baffled how people look at that unvote and dont find it scummy

She doesnt have an adequate explanation for it. I've been harping about this for a week and she hasnt really challenged it or tried to explain her pov really

Obviously if she's scum and nobody is following this she doesnt have to, but i feel like town would want to defend their actions at some point ....

And faker i'm honestly confused how you look at the unvote ajd take no issue with it

Pedit that's not the point, you're moving the convo away from the one i actuallh want to have

Coral has only started thinking abt voting meuh in the last day or two, and had by no means indicated that that's where she *is* goijg to vote

And rn i care more abt why you dont think the initial unvote is scummy

[Isis]

Meuh voted pav for a reason then unvoted for no reason

Skitter voted pav for no reason and stayed on forever

I'm more suspicious of the latter in just like against results oriented thinking I guess

[Isis]

VOTE: skit

[skitter30]

Isis if u werent conftown i would be scumreading u so hard >.>

[Isis]

Wait we do that when we're town that doesn't make me feel good

[Isis]

VOTE: cake

[skitter30]

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