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Post Post #4225 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:32 pm

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In post 4207, Isis wrote:Like what if none of my reads are wrong cause I didn't really believe in best wagon and I should just belief in myself

I mean that sounds arrogant but I more mean like

What if I haven't messed up yet

Like all five confs fit my worldview a lot

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Post Post #4226 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:32 pm

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it's because i said the posts meuh would hypothetically be taking advantage as scum are relevant one way or another

skitter said not relevant just because she didn't like it and got bopped
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Post Post #4227 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:34 pm

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They're not relevant, no, and i'm having a hard time believing u think they are
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Post Post #4228 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:37 pm

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Or, correction: they're relevant in the sense of 'this is the immediate impetus of the unvote'

But not in the context of: 'she was voting someone she believed was sxum and tried to wagon twice already to no success and the wagon lresently had like five votes'

Like in the micro timeframe, fine, it makes sense. It doesn't make sense in the broader context, which is what i care abt
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Post Post #4229 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:45 pm

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I mean I've repeatedly agreed that you can find them an implausible impetus given the state of the wagons. I have said 2-3x now that it's possible she's taking advantage of those posts as scum. I'm hairsplitting over relevancy partially to be annoyingly pedantic, but partially because it made it significantly harder for me to figure out what you are actually arguing and it was annoying. I had to wait for it to be framed by Aristeia.

Admitting they're relevant to the vote when I specifically prompt you with "Yeah, they'd be relevant as scum in this way" is not a declaration that Meuh is town.
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Post Post #4230 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:56 pm

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Like if you don't find it that context a persuasive reason to vote switch, as you just said in some form in your correction, that's one thing.

In comparison if you look at 4200 you might now be able to realize why I hit you with the ???? and found the conversation a nonstarter, while I looked on Aristeia's more favorably.
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Post Post #4231 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:04 pm

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In post 4220, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4213, Isis wrote:
In post 4209, skitter30 wrote:Your worldview is still wrong unfortunately

Pedit @isis
I'm pretty scared of losing to argument by repetition so I think that's why I clank towards skitter a lot
I mean yeah but i'm scared of losing to confbias so i stilk have fo keep trying to knock it out of u
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Post Post #4232 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:05 pm

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I look at the unvote and Aristeia's perspective and I get it. I think the surrounding bits could be +scum, particularly tagging onto marci. I think it's far from definitive but I think the only one who has set that bar is skitter.

I don't really get the revote on GuiltyLion over Pavowski in 2754 so shrug.

If people aren't going to ride my ass tomorrow about how I obviously was distancing from Coral or skitter or some shit then sure, I'll vote there.
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Post Post #4233 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:07 pm

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I play every game like I'm swinging for the fences, and am never afraid to strike out and puff my chest out with pride about it, but I'm also fine just getting carried.
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Post Post #4234 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:08 pm

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Do you have an earnest concern coral will escape and I will try to tie you to her
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Post Post #4235 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:11 pm

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I'm actually worried about skitter because despite the stats/mutual shows of verbal strangulation that's the partner idea that makes the most sense.

The way I've played this would be hardthrowing for me/Coral, as long as my partner is capable I'm happy to let them carry the baton. My strongarming style on MS has generally been forced and is absolutely not my preference.

There are more subtle and insidiously convincing ways to distance than I have here.
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Post Post #4236 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:12 pm

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I'm also fine with a Cakez escape here and a Faker/Cakez argument in the sense that I let him go and that'd be on me.
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Post Post #4237 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:13 pm

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I think if coral was mafia you could've won by luiging
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Post Post #4238 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:19 pm

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There would still be work to do to get 75% win up to 100% but that comes through more subtle feel-outs on Coral townreads, to be noticed and highlighted on my flip.
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Post Post #4239 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:19 pm

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I have trouble believing Faker would be yelling at Marci to E-1 Coral if she was teamed with coral in order to "hammertest"

really some stellar play if she is.
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Post Post #4240 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:20 pm

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I fucking forgot about that LMAO

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Post Post #4241 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:23 pm

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Anyway I'm fine using the elim to heatcheck, either getting hardcarried or just using the flips we get the run back tomorrow
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Post Post #4242 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:23 pm

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I think worst case would be something like a Meuh townflip into Cakez escape, if it happens it happens
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Post Post #4243 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:27 pm

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I guess a better statement here is: Cakez town Meuh escape instantly gamelosing because I get my just desserts. Meuh townflip Cakez escape maybe I don't instantly lose us the game.
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Post Post #4244 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:49 pm

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In post 4243, Faker wrote:I guess a better statement here is: Cakez town Meuh escape instantly gamelosing because I get my just desserts. Meuh townflip Cakez escape maybe I don't instantly lose us the game.
But don't you just want to lim the scum one..
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Post Post #4245 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:50 pm

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Maybe that was just pontification without a point or maybe there's a. Abstract ev I don't get
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Post Post #4246 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:51 pm

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If I had the confidence that one was significantly more likely than the other, yes. I do not.

I'm inclined to think that the team is exactly Coral/skitter. If we're not going Coral, though, I'd probably rather go Meuh than skitter and see how fuckin wrong I am.
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Post Post #4247 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:51 pm

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hi, I just got home and am terribly sleepy but if anyone wants me to respond to anything while I'm here for a few minutes please point me that way :)

i don't think the day is ending very soon but i sense a feeling of urgency from some people and im not sure where that's coming from

welcome back GL!!
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Post Post #4248 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:51 pm

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In post 4244, Isis wrote:
In post 4243, Faker wrote:I guess a better statement here is: Cakez town Meuh escape instantly gamelosing because I get my just desserts. Meuh townflip Cakez escape maybe I don't instantly lose us the game.
But don't you just want to lim the scum one..
she's saying that if cakes/meuh are t/s

then if she flips meuh today and meuh is town and cakes escapes, we can try to figure out who is the partner tomm

but if she flips cakes today and cakes is town, and meuh escapes, she is going to get flipped tomm and we will lose.
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Post Post #4249 (ISO) » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:54 pm

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if faker is now wanting to flip meuh here then im back to being confused :shifty:

i may need to read more closely for full context
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