Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[Shoshin]

You’re wishy-washy as fuck here, with no tangible reasons as to why

Changing reads isn't scummy. It's how I always play, especially now that I don't have anywhere close to the confidence I used to.

[Ausuka]

@aus, I didn't want to, I assumed people would infer enough and back off and instead people repeatedly didn't read my answer, got pissed with u fy pointing it out and still wouldn't stop a fuss over nothing. Apart from you it's made everyone involved, even crescent, look scummy to me

I mean, I understand where you're coming from here, but I think the only person who was really pressing it was Alex and his argument was something along the lines of "it's not impossible something useful will come from me talking about this." Idk it's probably not a relevant discussion now

[marcistar]

can u explain some of ur reads gamma

[Ausuka]

I can understand Crescent townreading Shoshin for it and I think it's somewhat towny because Shoshin is someone she was pushing and she would probably like to be able to continue to do so.

I can understand dats thinking it's NAI

I can't understand Gamma scumreading it at all. His read on the Shoshin/Crescent situation never felt genuine and it especially does not feel so to me now.

[Corwinoid]

Hi Alex, hi Bella.

Bella 100% town because she's always town.

I'm caught up on the game but I don't have a lot to add right now, I've stayed up late to get the replacement sorted and I'm going to bed.

Hard town reading Crescent this game though.

so ur caught up and ur only reads are that bella and crescent are town?

Crescent's my only real read. Bella's just always town.

And yeah, when I replace in there's a honeymoon period were I don't really have reads until I start interacting with people and get an actual feel for them.

[marcistar]

Hi Alex, hi Bella.

Bella 100% town because she's always town.

I'm caught up on the game but I don't have a lot to add right now, I've stayed up late to get the replacement sorted and I'm going to bed.

Hard town reading Crescent this game though.

so ur caught up and ur only reads are that bella and crescent are town?

Crescent's my only real read. Bella's just always town.

And yeah, when I replace in there's a honeymoon period were I don't really have reads until I start interacting with people and get an actual feel for them.

what do u think about shoshin asking for votes on datisi/gamma

[Shoshin]

Crescent's my only real read.

Why is Crescent town?

[Corwinoid]

Crescent's my only real read.

Why is Crescent town?

Because she's not choking the game.

[Corwinoid]

what do u think about shoshin asking for votes on datisi/gamma[/quote]
At first all of page 18 bothered me from Shoshin a lot, since it's low effort and lacks any kind of internal consistency. But the lacking internal consistency is probably a town tell.

[marcistar]

so you think its townie of shoshin?

do u have any opinions on datisi or gamma? since shoshins pushing for them

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Shoshin is being force-replaced

Post such as 454 are unacceptable under site rules: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=88683

[Corwinoid]

so you think its townie of shoshin?

do u have any opinions on datisi or gamma? since shoshins pushing for them

Town/null on it, but I guess we'll get a different read now.

I don't yet on the other two. I'm in a meeting for the next couple of hours, but I'll start digging into isos when I can.

[Gamma Emerald]

can u explain some of ur reads gamma

meh, idc to rn

[Gamma Emerald]

You’re wishy-washy as fuck here, with no tangible reasons as to why
Also, I don’t take well to this sort of comment. Plus, pretty sure you were scum that I read correctly in A Littls Boonie Told Me

I was town that game. You've been incorrectly reading me as scum in all the games I'm town. And I'm confused every game, because you keep misreading me for the same reasons. It's like, why haven't you figured this out yet? I guess you just misremember the alignments to make yourself feel better.

I think I confused shoshin w Samantha actually

[Roden]

@shoshin, we don't use the l-word on this site anymore, and i haven't gotten to this game yet. i don't lurk to "avoid posting content" or whatever else because i am more than good enough at scum to know what to post.

This is one if the reasons I town read Datisi. Not because of the self-meta here but because I've seen scum!Datisi a couple times now and this isn't it. If you don't have much of an opinion on him then he's very likely town; he's generally high activity as scum and working hard to make people want to keep him around and empathize with him.

[marcistar]

someone tryna chat?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi

[scamper]

hood reveal is interesting, i dont have a problem with std outing it since theres probably scum in a 4 person hood but i kind of wish he'd waited a bit longer so that we could have reads from people on the players in the hood + lemons could have posted

cuz right now my immediate thought is the lemons slot is probably scum but we learn basically nothing from it now if thats true

I really do think the setup could have a four player town hood just to fuck with the players

Like I'm not saying that's what's happening but I think it's not good to let the hood shape reads too much in a troll setup

i dont think having some slightly unusual roles is an indicator of a "troll setup". even if we assume its randomized alignments its more likely than not theres scum in the hood, and i think "oh it's a troll setup so the hood is all town" is a weird logical leap and not good thinking, b/c if it were that obvious the game just solves itself on day 1

[scamper]

Why did you claim neighborhood, exactly?

We have two 0 posters so far and Lemons is one of them. I suppose they haven't posted there either?

Chaos is a naturally bad thing for town. Sustained chaos is how you end up with trains on 6 different people with 24 hours left in the day, town almost certainly getting voted off, and weak information to go off of that voteoff because there were so many trains.

hood reveal is interesting, i dont have a problem with std outing it since theres probably scum in a 4 person hood but i kind of wish he'd waited a bit longer so that we could have reads from people on the players in the hood + lemons could have posted

cuz right now my immediate thought is the lemons slot is probably scum but we learn basically nothing from it now if thats true

With that I do agree. Revealing hood with a 0 poster inside was odd.

It feels like a semi-careless town play more than a scum play though.

I had asked STD if we should and he just said yeah if activity didn't pick up soon. Pretty much nothing was happening in the hood so I didn't disagree. I don't think we could've utilized it much if we kept it a secret tbh, the only thing about it that matters to me is the mech info. Plus if there's a Traffic Analyst around they won't have to worry about false guilties now.

its less about *your* usage of the hood and more about being able to see how *other* people treat your slots but point taken i guess

[Corwinoid]

The timing on the reveal sucks since a player in it was unconfirmed. But I'm still trying to wrap my head around the purpose of it... does anybody except a hypothetical TA gain info by knowing there's a 'hood? Do those of us in it lose the possibility of gaining info from it being outed? I just don't get how it affects anything (but I don't really understand how they affect the game anyway).

Something feels off about the timing and the VLA. I know it's a holiday and I'm trying not to let a VLA influence me, but it just feels off.

[Roden]

I can get that. I think giving it a little more time before revealing would probably be helpful, but at the same time if no one's really posting in it even a few days from now, then I don't see it giving us much info.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Freedom replaces Shoshin

[JohnnyFarrar]

Happy early birthday freedom

[scamper]

- i am not getting much from all the arguing around alex and his vote on bella, i thought the vote was fine (altho i admit i am biased here)

- 403 from crescent feels like shes being very uncharitable here

- i think alex reading into crescent acting in defense of bella in 412 is towny, that kind of trying to draw out unseen connections comes more often from a townie mindset of trying to fit puzzle pieces together

But the Marci train felt kind of off to me. Maybe it's all town, but I felt like if scum were on it, it's probably Bella (as opposed to scamper/datisi/ausuka)?

eh i disagree,
i havent read deeper into my wagon but i think datisis pretty scummy.

maybe ill look at both later but im busy rn so :shrug:

I'd need to look further there. My early read is that Datisi's town, felt like he's scumhunting and trying to sort the game. Probably worth noting how he appeared the instant you called him scummy though almost like that summoned him.

i am not sure where youre getting this though as it feels like hes been pretty passive so far

[scamper]

Happy early birthday freedom

are you ever going to actually play the game?