Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[Corwinoid]

And on the note about Corwin going after SYD's VLA... That VLA was made at virtually the start of the game, in post #56. It kinda ended up a little bit irrelevant anyway because SYD has still been around and posting, albeit at a low clip (Tied with Bella for lowest poster). I don't really understand the basis behind attacking it. It feels kinda dirty.

I didn't mean it as an attack, I meant it as pointing out my own viewpoint is tainted by it

[JohnnyFarrar]

I claimed because I want to see what happens and I'd bet there's scum in the hood

I like this

[JohnnyFarrar]

Dag how did I not get that pagetop

[Corwinoid]

Dag how did I not get that pagetop

Stolen!

[scamper]

Wow, that's a lot of words about me.

I'm just really busy this weekend, I'm not all over the thread in a way id like so I am just trying to find town today.

With the 'i buy ausaks's claim', I think it would be easy to infer that I've had a slightly odd role pm - it looks like there a few odd things in this game, so of course I'm going to then be more acceptig of theirs, even more so when backed up by a weird neighbourhood/where the roles aren't defined.

It's super weird how many words there have been about me with very little ...reason? It feels like busy work

@aus, I didn't want to, I assumed people would infer enough and back off and instead people repeatedly didn't read my answer, got pissed with u fy pointing it out and still wouldn't stop a fuss over nothing. Apart from you it's made everyone involved, even crescent, look scummy to me

I mean you still didn't really have to semi-claim that or infer anything in the first place

"Slightly odd role PM" doesn't really indicate alignment, but I thiiiink 519 is more likely to come from annoyed town

thats a fair point i guess, the initial softclaim didnt do a whole lot for me because i didnt really get why town would do it in that spot but her explanation makes sense from a town perspective

[Corwinoid]

@mod

Ignore my 550.
I didn't realise that Shosin was voting Datisi.

So are you intending to be not voting, or still on Datisi?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Prolly taking Crescent off the table Today for 231, pretty townie

No one else has even mentioned this post that I can remember.

Why does it stick out to you?

I think for myself man

You responded relatively quickly (10ish minutes) to a question about your style in a way that read as off the cuff and the idea of you being scum just isn't present. Seemed natural and townie

[Freedom]

@mod

Ignore my 550.
I didn't realise that Shosin was voting Datisi.

So are you intending to be not voting, or still on Datisi?

I intended not to unvote.

[Crescent]

Prolly taking Crescent off the table Today for 231, pretty townie

No one else has even mentioned this post that I can remember.

Why does it stick out to you?

I think for myself man

You responded relatively quickly (10ish minutes) to a question about your style in a way that read as off the cuff and the idea of you being scum just isn't present. Seemed natural and townie

This is actually a surprisingly thorough response.

Ok next question why do you retract your town read on Datisi in #303, only to say you never actually TRed him to begin with in #307?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I am flip and sarcastic

[JohnnyFarrar]

(I know that's a less thorough response)

[JohnnyFarrar]

like Aussie as a nickname

Oh BTW I tend to nickname a lot and I'm also attempting to use less gendered language in general, so if at any point I call you something you don't like, absolutely let me know and I will stop without comment

[JohnnyFarrar]

ur so buddy buddy

Trying to decide if you just throwin' bows like this is townie or not? Like I'm wondering if this is toward an end or if you're just being shitty

[Ausuka]

hood reveal is interesting, i dont have a problem with std outing it since theres probably scum in a 4 person hood but i kind of wish he'd waited a bit longer so that we could have reads from people on the players in the hood + lemons could have posted

cuz right now my immediate thought is the lemons slot is probably scum but we learn basically nothing from it now if thats true

I really do think the setup could have a four player town hood just to fuck with the players

Like I'm not saying that's what's happening but I think it's not good to let the hood shape reads too much in a troll setup

i dont think having some slightly unusual roles is an indicator of a "troll setup". even if we assume its randomized alignments its more likely than not theres scum in the hood, and i think "oh it's a troll setup so the hood is all town" is a weird logical leap and not good thinking, b/c if it were that obvious the game just solves itself on day 1

I mean it's not a logical leap, did you read my second paragraph? I'm saying making conclusions about the amount of scum in the hood feels silly to me because anything is possible in a setup with Ascetic Millers lmao

[JohnnyFarrar]

relatedly: i dont really like corwinoids entrance at all...

Ooh, why not? Is it cause it's plsin white bread w/ no butter? Cuz that's what it makes me think of

[Ausuka]

@shoshin, we don't use the l-word on this site anymore, and i haven't gotten to this game yet. i don't lurk to "avoid posting content" or whatever else because i am more than good enough at scum to know what to post.

This is one if the reasons I town read Datisi. Not because of the self-meta here but because I've seen scum!Datisi a couple times now and this isn't it. If you don't have much of an opinion on him then he's very likely town; he's generally high activity as scum and working hard to make people want to keep him around and empathize with him.

I mean I don't disagree that Datisi is capable of being much townier than this as scum but I also think he's capable of doing more as town? And probably just hasn't gotten into the game regardless of alignment.

- i think alex reading into crescent acting in defense of bella in 412 is towny, that kind of trying to draw out unseen connections comes more often from a townie mindset of trying to fit puzzle pieces together

I mean maybe I'm biased/tunneled at this point but don't you think it kind of sounds like a BS read? There was no indication at all that Crescent was worried about Bella being eliminated by calling out Alex's post as overly hedgy and it kind of just didn't feel like a genuine thought. Idk

[JohnnyFarrar]

This whole exchange on 16 and 17 makes Alex look like the right vote

[Ausuka]

i wanna soul-townread crescent for pointing out how anti-town shoshin's play is, because this rng roulette of constant naked "reads" is doing wonders for killing my motivation for this game. the fact that crescent noticed it too is probably? +town.

ok i wanna point out this looks like its openly pocketing crescent and trying to take advantage of her to push on shoshin, it just feels completely icky

and i think his reaction to shoshin's comment was kind of a low-key scumclaim

so with that i wanna

VOTE: Datisi

I do actually agree that this dats post was somewhat wolfy and I'd like him to explain it when he comes back

Like, I don't disagree that Crescent is town but I don't see the thought process behind this read. Why would mafia ever hesitate to call out Shoshin's play here as anti town? Especially after the trust tell thing, assuming Shoshin is town here scum would be pretty damn annoyed that she tried to clear herself in such a way?

[JohnnyFarrar]

i don't keep track of numbers, they depress me

I've never related to anything more

[Ausuka]

Ok whatever I'll just let the mod deal with the borderline trust tell thing.

Bella posting about her role PM is uh not the play I would have made there but probably +town.

i honestly dont read anything into it

Gamma is probably a wolf

explain, bcuz i dont agree...

Scum are less likely to want to soft on day 1 because it restricts their options later - for example if this is a high power setup scum probably want to be claiming VT - and she comes across as genuine to me.

Gamma is probably a wolf because I've never understood why people were townreading him and tbh I think his push on Shoshin was terrible. I really didn't like the post saying Crescent and Shoshin both looked bad, since I got the opposite vibes and since iirc both were under suspicion at the time it would be an extremely convenient position for scum to take, encouraging a TvT fuelled by a massive playstyle difference while being able to pivot into pushing either if one of them townspewed.

Also his posts just kind of feel wolfy imo but I know that's not super convincing.

[Ausuka]

STD made a brilliant take in 279 which I don't think that he'll ever post as scum.

Can you explain this? I think the neighborhood thing would not be particularly difficult for scum to do and am confused as to why you found it towny.

[Freedom]

STD made a brilliant take in 279 which I don't think that he'll ever post as scum.

Can you explain this? I think the neighborhood thing would not be particularly difficult for scum to do and am confused as to why you found it towny.

He had no reason to want to make us think that scum was in the hood. He could easily convince us that we should use the hood as a psuedo-Masonry and hunt for scum outside. But instead, he takes the risky move of saying that scum could be in our hood.
Though, my POV is affected by the fact that I am in the hood.

[Ausuka]

I've never heard the phrase radiant lodestar but I might start using it because it is excellent

like Aussie as a nickname

Oh BTW I tend to nickname a lot and I'm also attempting to use less gendered language in general, so if at any point I call you something you don't like, absolutely let me know and I will stop without comment

Personally I'm fine with gendered language and stuff like that and also tend to be fine with nicknames as long as they aren't insulting

[Ausuka]

STD made a brilliant take in 279 which I don't think that he'll ever post as scum.

Can you explain this? I think the neighborhood thing would not be particularly difficult for scum to do and am confused as to why you found it towny.

He had no reason to want to make us think that scum was in the hood. He could easily convince us that we should use the hood as a psuedo-Masonry and hunt for scum outside. But instead, he takes the risky move of saying that scum could be in our hood.
Though, my POV is affected by the fact that I am in the hood.

I think anyone suggesting that a four player hood be seen as a masonry would be scumread for it so I don't think that's an approach scum are especially likely to take?

[Ausuka]

I don't think this is especially likely to be scum Freedom doing a fake read I just continue to be baffled by townreads on STD I guess