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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:19 pm

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Also possibly interesting: When Ausuka and Datisi moved off of Marci to Alex in #331 and #332, Marci was left with VOTE: 0 people voting her.

She has barely any reaction to the votes on her until her train is already dead.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 4:25 pm

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In post 824, Crescent wrote:Datisi votes Marci in #41, which Marci doesn't even register until #383 when she susses him. He is then the focus of almost every post she makes afterwards.

She only counters him in #450 because Shoshin asks her to vote there. This is the actual reason the vote was placed to begin with.
In post 825, Crescent wrote:Also possibly interesting: When Ausuka and Datisi moved off of Marci to Alex in #331 and #332, Marci was left with VOTE: 0 people voting her.

She has barely any reaction to the votes on her until her train is already dead.
That's interesting.
This does feel like how scum!marci interacted with town!Faker in Micro 1056.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:50 pm

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I don't feel any sorta confidence on a Marci read. Is m1056 not the game they linked? I thought they were town in that?
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:51 pm

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Nvm I was wrong that's a different game
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:02 pm

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In post 826, Freedom wrote:This does feel like how scum!marci interacted with town!Faker in Micro 1056
Hey Draggo and Datisi, does this ring true? I don't wanna read Micro 1056 either
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:31 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13378298

I think this is an interesting read

My first thought here is just like, she seems to struggle with scumplay a bit? So I'm more inclined to think she's scum here rather than too-scummy-to-be-scum.

Also she said she tends to be more bitchy as scum? I'm not 100% sure whether or not that applies here and I think it's hard to evaluate without being Potentially Rude :lol:
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:48 pm

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Wouldn't have even thought to check the PT
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:56 pm

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In post 830, Ausuka wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13378298

I think this is an interesting read

My first thought here is just like, she seems to struggle with scumplay a bit? So I'm more inclined to think she's scum here rather than too-scummy-to-be-scum.

Also she said she tends to be more bitchy as scum? I'm not 100% sure whether or not that applies here and I think it's hard to evaluate without being Potentially Rude :lol:

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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:54 pm

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In post 809, Ausuka wrote:you shouldn't put three mafia doctors in a gunsmith game
i hear you talkin shit
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:56 pm

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I talk shit it's what I do
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:02 pm

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In post 830, Ausuka wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13378298

I think this is an interesting read

My first thought here is just like, she seems to struggle with scumplay a bit? So I'm more inclined to think she's scum here rather than too-scummy-to-be-scum.

Also she said she tends to be more bitchy as scum? I'm not 100% sure whether or not that applies here and I think it's hard to evaluate without being Potentially Rude :lol:
this is the game that i was thinking about before, but couldn't say. her entire iso this game was literally just... repeating how i'm scum for frankly nonsense reasons, having no other reads, outright refusing to have any other reads, and being sorta rude in pushing me in order to appear confident or whatever the fuck. it's like, the exact of what she's been doing here. there's no actual thoughts or re-evaluations of my play here. she's just repeating i'm scum for reasons that she doesn't even know.
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In post 826, Freedom wrote:This does feel like how scum!marci interacted with town!Faker in Micro 1056
Hey Draggo and Datisi, does this ring true? I don't wanna read Micro 1056 either
not sure what freedom is referring to there. marci and faker were in a confirmed 1v1 on day two, so yeah obviously she was screaming at faker. and yes, it did sorta seem like her play towards me this game.

also, @whoever said it seemed like scum!marci had more solving in micro1056 than here -- the early solving was distancing because leaving false associates is extremely important in the setup that game was running. compare it to invictus, which just ended, which is much more traditional mafia like here -- her whole iso on d1 was "lol datisi scum".
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:08 pm

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std might be scum, his reads are lmao and "datisi's push could be scum trying to--" what makes you think it's that as opposed to town pushing someone they think is scum.

also scumreading shoshin is a bit wack because how is that play scummy as opposed to stubborn town

not sure why freedom is saying talking about elo and not pushing things through on d1, but like. (1) i definitely do shitpush people through as scum on d1, (2) faker said that marci gets more obvious as the game goes on. if i'm scum and i see town!marci acting scummy early on, i am gonna be trying to capitalize on that immediately. so make of that what you will.

inb4 "but if you're town, why not let marci be for a while so you can--" because i think she's scummy now, and the last time i thought she was scummy now, she was scum, and i want a dead scumfuck on d1.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:09 pm

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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:10 pm

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do you wanna say something or are you just gonna keep being obnoxious
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:12 pm

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I still think Marci is town here but I’m not interested in fighting basically the entire player list so instead you clowns can do whatever and I’ll say I told you so tomorrow
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:17 pm

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Well you're hardly going to convince us to lim Not Voting
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:30 pm

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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:56 pm

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In post 841, Gamma Emerald wrote:
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Mainly me and Roden talking about a typo that I made and then about marci's wagon. Though, STD popped in earlier and mentioned some TRs including you. Corwin made one post regarding my take on JF and scamper.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:58 pm

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In post 836, Datisi wrote:not sure why freedom is saying talking about elo and not pushing things through on d1, but like. (1) i definitely do shitpush people through as scum on d1, (2) faker said that marci gets more obvious as the game goes on. if i'm scum and i see town!marci acting scummy early on, i am gonna be trying to capitalize on that immediately. so make of that what you will.

inb4 "but if you're town, why not let marci be for a while so you can--" because i think she's scummy now, and the last time i thought she was scummy now, she was scum, and i want a dead scumfuck on d1.
I see.
I was mainly saying what I would want to do as scum.
Though, it's purely hypothetical.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:08 pm

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In post 843, Freedom wrote:
In post 836, Datisi wrote:not sure why freedom is saying talking about elo and not pushing things through on d1, but like. (1) i definitely do shitpush people through as scum on d1, (2) faker said that marci gets more obvious as the game goes on. if i'm scum and i see town!marci acting scummy early on, i am gonna be trying to capitalize on that immediately. so make of that what you will.

inb4 "but if you're town, why not let marci be for a while so you can--" because i think she's scummy now, and the last time i thought she was scummy now, she was scum, and i want a dead scumfuck on d1.
I see.
I was mainly saying what I would want to do as scum.
Though, it's purely hypothetical.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:10 pm

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gamma, who is scum
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:11 pm

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oh maybe datisis town actually im so confused
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:22 pm

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Datisi, what does inb4 mean by the way?
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:24 pm

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in before
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:25 pm

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I gave my opinion on Marci in the hood. I scum read her, but I think if she actually is scum here then it's been a weird play on her end. Like, someone mentioned that her play doesn't make sense regardless of alignment, and I heavily agree with that. I could theorize that maybe she's scum and trying to distance/create fake associatives/anti-spew, but she was at zero votes when suspicion started piling on her. So why do that? Especially when earlier in the Day she got run up to E-2 and then had her wagon disintegrate with barely any effort? I don't understand why scum would intentionally play weird and get themself run up twice within like three days.

Though I do think it was weird that she was at E-2 then dropped to zero votes so quickly the first time. I don't think she did anything super townie that would have killed her wagon like that.
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