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[Fidget]

Why didn't NAHA and CSF just vote for... anyone other than each other? There was literally no way CSF could have gotten out of being eliminated there after NAHA submitted.

[Fidget]

Well, unless maybe CSF 1v1'd me or played the PT out a little more. I think you could have gotten away with pressuring anyone other than Gamma/Loki and gotten one of the two of you out. I think the bussing was the problem as opposed to what CSF did after the first lim.

CSF was a consensus lock (thats why we fell asleep), Gamma/Aisa/Loki-Freedom demonstrated they were town lengthily during first phase, NAHA and CSF didn't really play the PT other than mainly vote each other. Seemed like bad timing for them, plus like, the scenario was pretty unfortunate -- forcing the 'towniest' players to eliminate who might be scum within them, rather than just eliminating the scummy ppl as usual.

I didn't think CSF was scum though so that's rough.

I don't get why I was killed. Hello, dead resistance fighters + terminators

[Firebringer]

Spicy my gut on cat was right

[DkKoba]

Why didn't NAHA and CSF just vote for... anyone other than each other? There was literally no way CSF could have gotten out of being eliminated there after NAHA submitted.

Wtf do u mean

I feel like you didn't follow gamestate if youre saying this

[DkKoba]

Like yall incorrectly concluded that csf was town and if she had a presence she doesn't die there and its a lock

[Fidget]

I suppose we had vastly different impressions of the gamestate. From my impression the game idled because we all thought there was 1 terminator in the group and we agreed it wasn't Gamma/Loki-Freedom/Aisa?/Myself? after the shitfighting

So basically Aisa, myself, you, and CSF were the viable lims.

After you died i removed Aisa though and CSF was the only technically possible scum left. I appreciate their scumrange and they had no interactions with you that were clearing, unlike Gamma/Aisa who i thought spewed.

[Fidget]

I'm not sure why you think the gamestate froze other than because we all begrudgingly consensused CSF who then peaced out.

[DkKoba]

i did the best i could in that gamestate and i stand by it

[Loki Dokie]

i did the best i could in that gamestate and i stand by it

I don’t think anyone is saying otherwise? but had I been in that pt, I too would have voted CSF because she was pretty much saying nothing other than that mafia should decide the elim.

I think at the end of d1, CSF was in the weakest position and everyone else looked townier.

[Fidget]

i did the best i could in that gamestate and i stand by it

I'm not really saying you didn't do the best you could. I don't think there was a whole alot more u coulda done. I just thought the terminators could have gotten away with sticking together so it surprised me to see CSF as scum there

[Fidget]

I suppose I gave Gamma the impression I was tinfoiling him when I engaged with Loki? I don't always ask questions because I'm trying to be convinced of either side. I'm not really sure what gave Gamma the impression I was ever considering him..

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Fidgy did you actually read that War & Peace post rofl

*flops ears*

[DkKoba]

I can confirm every factual claim that Gamma has made.

RR, if you want the exact end of day 1 votecount, it was:
NAHA: Loki, Gamma, CSF, Fidget, Aisa
CSF: NAHA

I'm somewhat surprised no one has brought up this angle yet. Or maybe this is what Gamma means, idk, but I think it's a slightly different angle:
If there were 3 scum in my PT, they literally could have controlled the day 1 elimination and gone on to eliminate or kill all 3 townies in the PT (plus one in the other PT), thus automatically getting the game to 4:3 eLo.

The fact this didn't happen is somewhat short of a perfect clear, but IMO fairly close.

Also, FWIW, I think Gamma kinda towntold in the PT anyway.

This is obviously easy for me to say, but I am pretty keen for the 3-scum-in-one-PT theory to die down pretty soon.

Yeah, and that's the situation I expected to be in this morning.
I don't think they mutual bus like that in a triple scum world though, so I'm willing to say final scum was in our group now.

Now then. Andante's ragequit probably spews that slot Town, as well as townreading her beforehand. Ejjinami townslipped, and was also an existing townread. So that leaves Vivax/Enchant, and I'm not really fond of Vivax's entrance today, so let's start there, yeah?

VOTE: Vivax

what the fuck is this OGI bullshit

[Freedom]

Wait.
Andante did a "ragequit"?
Isn't that commenting on replacements?

[DkKoba]

No she didn't

[Freedom]

So RR is lying?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit

[Freedom]

I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit

So RR is misrepresenting?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't comment on RR's state of mind when they make a comment because I am not a psychic.

[Loki Dokie]

I can't comment on RR's state of mind when they make a comment because I am not a psychic.

Pooky, Andante and myself formed a covenant and the three of us all made a vow of secrecy which we signed with our own blood and all of us also pinky swore to nominate Pooky for a scummie for this game, because he bribed us.

Troof

[DkKoba]

I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit

it shouldnt be allowed tbqh

i myself specifically have a clause in my ruleset not to allow that kind of OGI :/

[Andante]

I think you are allowed to comment on a replacement after it happens

but she did not ragequit

So RR is misrepresenting?

ehhh I can see where RR is thinking that, our PT was… interesting..
I didn’t rage quit though

[Andante]

from my understanding you can say whatever you want in game about a replacement after it happens, just not before it happens

[Freedom]

from my understanding you can say whatever you want in game about a replacement after it happens, just not before it happens

That's true.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Spicy my gut on cat was right

unfortunately, I'm a fairly straightforward read for good tonereaders. I'm pretty sure you correctly scumread me in Pokemon too