Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote count 1.16

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-12 12:00:00).

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Corwinoid[5]:

Save the Dragons, Datisi, Freedom, Gamma Emerald, Roden

Alexcellent[1]:

JohnnyFarrar

Datisi[1]:

Marcistar

Scamper[1]:

Corwinoid

Marcistar[1]:

Ausuka

Not Voting[4]:

Crescent, Bellaphant, Scamper, Alexcellent

mod note

Bellaphant is VLA until Monday
Alexcellent is VLA Tuesday - Thursday

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[Ausuka]

It is absolutely a serious claim

Idk if Corwin's already dead but I realised his role would be jk neighbour which is slightly less plain I guess

[Crescent]

He's not already dead. He's still at 6.

That kind of total fake content post makes my trigger finger itchy though.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Y'all the vc is right there it says 5

[Crescent]

Oh I thought Roden put him back to 6 and didn't even read the VC. Poking at Ausuka's claim is like, the absolute cheapest form of "content" you could possibly provide right now.

[Alexcellent]

UNVOTE: Corwin

Idk I think I need to reassess this game tbh.
Will wait for Corwin to post and address points against him. Agree that JK claim is very… plain for a game that supposedly has an ascetic Miller. Gut reaction is to not buy it but I’m also not comfortable with Corwin being at E1 any more.
I also don’t think Marci comes in with those posts as scum given that she’s a likely launch if Corwin isn’t being voted off today.

Pedit - snap

Are people really taking ascetic miller as a serious claim? Like I completely read it as a joke, and I'm the one person who seems to take things like this too seriously.

I'm still catching up but this was a sticking point for me as I'm reading through.

I mean when I first saw it I thought it was maybe for the lols, but, yeah, that claim is serious. It was a major sticking point for the first several pages. There's been a significant amount of discussion around it throughout this game...

[Crescent]

It is absolutely a serious claim

Idk if Corwin's already dead but I realised his role would be jk neighbour which is slightly less plain I guess

2272 had a Gunsmith Neighbor that obliterated the Scum Neighbor.

[Corwinoid]

Counting the hood as a PR seems strange to me.

Did Bella ever actually claim, or did she just soft claim with the 'something weird' post? Did I miss a post here?

[Corwinoid]

I also don't understand why some of you are targeting Marci right now

[Crescent]

Bella has not claimed, nor has there ever any need for her to do so.

[Corwinoid]

Bella has not claimed, nor has there ever any need for her to do so.

But people are assuming she's a PR to assess setup against my claim.

[Freedom]

Who are the potential four town PRs?

Ausuka/Bella/Corwin/???

Unless you're counting the hood?

I am.
I know that I'm Town.
Therefore, at least 4 Town PRs.

If Hoods counted as a PR, then MM2272 had 6 town PRs.

I see.
But that seems to be a one-off incident to my knowledge.

[Crescent]

Setup meta on day 1 with no true information is dumb in the first place. I've also never once assumed Bella is actually claiming a PR. In any case, a Bella claim today under present circumstances is unacceptable.

[Crescent]

4 posts. All still focusing on the wrong things. No real content.

1: Pokes Ausuka's claim - Cheap.
2: Rolefishes Bella - Nope.
3: Passively defends Marci without giving a reason - "Ok".
4: Acts like setup meta is a significant factor in the votes on him. Does not address any of the actual reasons he got votes in the first place - Avoidance.

Everyone has now caught up, and these posts do nothing for me except for make me more town lean Bella a little more.

VOTE: Corwin

I'm going to bed. I don't have an internal argument for letting this drag any further.

[Corwinoid]

^ Complete and utter rubbish.

I didn't rolefish Bella, and if you want to try and read that into that post you're intentionally injecting misinformation into the question. It was exactly relevant to Freedom and Roden evaluating my claim. You don't just get to discard that other people are counting her as a PR when I'm directly responding to that.

"Passively defends"... just fuck off with this shit. Seriously. There are like two or three people on my wagon who are directly going "Yeah, I want to launch Corwin today, but Marci's cool too" and that seems to come out of literally nowhere.

Your 4th point: Stop making shit up. At no point did I act like meta was significant. Other people made a significant point of it, and you want to just drop this crap and literally ignore my last post pointing out that

other people

are the ones making a big deal out of it as a case against me?

JFC I don't know how you breathe without instructions.

Half a page of interactions and I literally want nothing to do with you in this game anymore.

[Alexcellent]

@Corwin

-- What is your current read on Crescent, and why?

At the beginning of the game you said you were hard town reading her.

Roden has also said that you said this in the hood:

Corwin mentioned in the hood that they're separating themself from the game for a bit, partially because of Crescent but also because IRL stuff happened apparently.

They're also accusing Crescent of playing the complete opposite as she did when she was town in the Mini that got brought up. So uh, basically a "no u" argument.

Is this true? Because it appears to contradict your town read of her.

[Corwinoid]

@Corwin

-- What is your current read on Crescent, and why?

At the beginning of the game you said you were hard town reading her.

Roden has also said that you said this in the hood:

Corwin mentioned in the hood that they're separating themself from the game for a bit, partially because of Crescent but also because IRL stuff happened apparently.

They're also accusing Crescent of playing the complete opposite as she did when she was town in the Mini that got brought up. So uh, basically a "no u" argument.

Is this true? Because it appears to contradict your town read of her.

I was asked in the hood if I stuck by that read, more or less, and conceded it might be less sure than I originally thought.

She's probably town, but I literally hate her as a player and intend to blacklist her after this game. I hate her flood posting, I hate her hairbrained trash logic, I hate that she makes games incredibly unfun to be in, and her narcissistic savior complex. I hate that she blatantly violates the rules without apparent repercussions, and that she's repeatedly used a gender oriented attack against me, after I asked her not to.

I think she's trash. She's probably town trash, but I certainly wouldn't say I'm hard town reading her anymore.

[Corwinoid]

You know what, maybe I'm just wrong though. I thought I'd smoke and calm down, but the more I think about 1488 the more it pisses me off that it's all a bunch of out of context bullshit to use as an excuse to pile on a wagon that's already going.

[Ausuka]

i think its mostly hard cuz ppl have this like golden trio of suspects
im in the golden trio
so i know the golden trio isnt it
but i dont know where exactly everyones clowning

if yall want to lim me go ahead, since corwind claimed jailkeep i would be the better lim anyways.
but that doesnt change what im saying
yall are wrong somewhere.

I mean like
Would you expect all the scummiest players to be the scum on day 1
I feel like there are players outside of the Golden Trio who aren't really townread it's just that most people find you three suspicious to some degree

[Ausuka]

I think people townread things like "lim me if you want" too easily I think scum did it twice in the game I just finished

The "scum is outside the golden trio" thing is like slightly +town but not enough to make me not want to kill Marci

For people who don't want to kill either corwin or marci I feel like you should propose an alternative/make a case there?

[Bellaphant]

1493 could've come from my brain

[Alexcellent]

I think I'm probably going to hammer Corwin.

UNVOTE: Corwin

Idk I think I need to reassess this game tbh.
Will wait for Corwin to post and address points against him. Agree that JK claim is very… plain for a game that supposedly has an ascetic Miller. Gut reaction is to not buy it but I’m also not comfortable with Corwin being at E1 any more.
I also don’t think Marci comes in with those posts as scum given that she’s a likely launch if Corwin isn’t being voted off today.

Pedit - snap

Are people really taking ascetic miller as a serious claim? Like I completely read it as a joke, and I'm the one person who seems to take things like this too seriously.

I'm still catching up but this was a sticking point for me as I'm reading through.

I find this hard to buy. Like it feels like an attempt to discredit Ausuka's claim. If this were at the very start of the day I'd buy this, but we're 60 pages in and Ausuka's claim has been taken seriously for a very long time. Feel like it's either scummy or Corwin hasn't been reading the game.

Counting the hood as a PR seems strange to me.

Did Bella ever actually claim, or did she just soft claim with the 'something weird' post? Did I miss a post here?

This kind of feels bad too. I disagree with Crescent accusing this of rolefishing and I kinda understand Corwin getting frustrated at that call out. But I still don't like this post. Similar to the other one I could see the motivation behind this being to try and strengthen his JK claim by throwing doubt on another claim, even if Bella has only really soft claimed.

I do buy Corwin's anger though. Like I think that's genuine frustration at Crescent. Don't know if that really indicates his alignment though. Could see a world where town!Corwin is annoyed at being misrepped by Crescent (I've kind of felt similar about how she's tried building a case on me, so maybe I sympathise there), but could also see scum!Corwin getting angry at Crescent's push on him here too.

[Alexcellent]

I think I wouldn't mind hearing from another hood member first if they can verify that what Corwin said in 1491 checks out.
Also it might be worth checking if he said all that stuff about her read in the hood chat before or after mini 2273 ended because I think the timing of that can be relevant.

[Roden]

I never expect all three scum to be found Day 1. The reality is that there's usually a deep wolf when a Day 1 scum elim happens. And if Corwin actually flips town then it's just as likely we have a deep wolf or even two.

My final solve has one of Alex or Marci, but it's very unlikely they're both scum here.

[Roden]

I think I wouldn't mind hearing from another hood member first if they can verify that what Corwin said in 1491 checks out.
Also it might be worth checking if he said all that stuff about her read in the hood chat before or after mini 2273 ended because I think the timing of that can be relevant.

It has to be after. Otherwise he'd be talking about an ongoing game.