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[Cat Scratch Fever]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what a pagetop wow

might give you bonus points for that

[Cat Scratch Fever]

that's all I really want out of this game, to make it to the top of that leaderboard

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it's a long and hard climb and a dragon awaits at the summit eager to burn all those who might try to conquer his mountain into a cinder.

[Rad]

I imagine at the stage most of you are, you probably throw in some light wifom intentionally just to see if people see it and misread you on it in your favor. So maybe slips are as good as meta dives... not all that great for the most part.

Can you elaborate on this?

So back when I was playing, and even back then I didn't really get out of the newbie stage, but... wifom wasn't necessarily a tool, but a liability. I was just thinking about... what would people who have been playing for a decade or more be doing here to throw each other off? Cause I'm seeing some people in here with accounts from 10, 15+ years ago.

Maybe wifom traps? As either alignment. To get people to respond to things in a certain way to get a better read from them or push how they look to others in a certain direction.

I like theory and this just popped up for me during this interaction.

[Dunnstral]

Bell
Enchant
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)

Bellaphant

PenguinPower
The toad
Dwlee99
Malakittens
MalcolmTucker

Roden
Corwinoid

Cephrir
Galron
JohnnyFarrar
BlueBloodedToffee

You have more of an opinion or the opposite opinion on all these people when compared to my list, Dunny. Can you give me some few words on each?

P-edit: you can skip the ones you're already covering obv

Bell - 1257

Enchant - Posts 520, 523, 570, and 588 are pretty good. And while I had some mishaps in reading him while he was town before, I believe I caught on pretty quickly the one time they were actually scum. This game feels town.

Dancing Puppets - 1255, 1274, 1279, 1291

Bellaphant - They were null to me until some of their recent posts that suggest that they were thinking about things some more. This read is possibly weaker than I thought as I can't find the exact post that triggered my read to change

Penguinpower - I felt like they had little in the way of content and mostly had banter. Not much to go on other than that but they are below null.

The toad - I have little idea what they are thinking. They are not so bad upon review, in fact I'm not sure I'd even vote them, actually. But I do think they are a bit worse in my mind than the names above them. Not seeing anything super towny here at least

Dwlee99 - I didn't like post 171 because I pointed out that they only called out 1 instance of Gambler's fallacy. Their vote on Cephrir is still there and unexplained. I think it's not impossible for Dwlee to have a scummy looking start as town so that is why they are not lower even though I have more reasons.

Malakittens - They seem to have little desire to do anything

MalcolmTucker - They are reasonable but I get the sense they post kind of like this as both alignments. I think some of their pushes seem a little shady, including 526 and 1208

Roden - They have a narrow view into the game, only really responding to Frogster and Roden. It also feels like they are holding back considerably.

Corwinoid - First 2 posts are a bit scummy, the v/la and family emergency stuff is dead null, the trouble engaging with the game is a bit more likely to be mafia than town in my opinion. And they have notes but still haven't really posted anything makes it look more showy than real.

Cephrir - I hate to say this because of their AtE earlier in case I'm wrong, but looking at this objectively this is pretty much how Cephrir plays as scum. I categorize their scum play as a lot of complaining about the wagon on them and also their tone feeling slightly off all game and others commenting on it but it not being quite enough for a wagon to form.

Galron - Also a narrow viewpoint into the game, mostly looking at Frogster. I feel like their reads list in 1174[post] isn't really foreshadowed or explained anywhere else, especially the town reads, which makes it look fake.

JohnnyFarrar - I got the sense that you were floating around doing very little up to your post 918. After this point you start to talk about your reads some more and that is better but I believe you were prompted for most of that. And then it feels like you went back to doing not much until you showed interest in my reads which was surprising to me.

BlueBloodedToffee - [post]724. I think 1096 is a bad post, too.

[Dunnstral]

Galron - Also a narrow viewpoint into the game, mostly looking at Frogster. I feel like their reads list in 1174 isn't really foreshadowed or explained anywhere else, especially the town reads, which makes it look fake.

JohnnyFarrar - I got the sense that you were floating around doing very little up to your post 918. After this point you start to talk about your reads some more and that is better but I believe you were prompted for most of that. And then it feels like you went back to doing not much until you showed interest in my reads which was surprising to me.

BlueBloodedToffee - 724. I think 1096 is a bad post, too.

[Roden]

I think scum are just lurking out. I'm guessing it's hard to resist the temptation to do nothing in the main thread with a 5 scum - 21 town starting point.

PEdit

Hey I made it onto the pagetop board

actually if everyone would like to give a list of people they want eliminated in LIST format

Corwin
Roden
BlueBlood

I would be surprised if there isn't 1 scum in these three players.

Thank you ahead of time if you collect the names and post the list, I think that might help a lot with the D1 structure.

Can you go into further detail with this? This doesn't really add up with what you said earlier.

[Frogsterking]

I think scum are just lurking out. I'm guessing it's hard to resist the temptation to do nothing in the main thread with a 5 scum - 21 town starting point.

PEdit

Hey I made it onto the pagetop board

actually if everyone would like to give a list of people they want eliminated in LIST format

Corwin
Roden
BlueBlood

I would be surprised if there isn't 1 scum in these three players.

Thank you ahead of time if you collect the names and post the list, I think that might help a lot with the D1 structure.

Can you go into further detail with this? This doesn't really add up with what you said earlier.

roden gib me readlist pls thx

[Dunnstral]

Lukewarm
Bell
Rad
Enchant
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)

PookyTheMagicalBear
Cat Scratch Fever
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Taly
Bellaphant

Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
T-Bone
Frogsterking
Klick

PenguinPower
The toad
Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Dwlee99

Roden
Corwinoid
JohnnyFarrar

Galron
Cephrir
BlueBloodedToffee

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After some introspection and explaining some of my reads plus looking over people again, I'm going to say that the above is closer to what I am feeling right now

[Rad]

Dunn's 1355 is awesome and that level of explained sorting is hard to keep up as scum. Consider Dunn my highest town read right now. This is the kind of post that solidifies them as town for me and screws them if they're scum.

We have some serious differences in reads but I like his reasoning.

[Corwinoid]

It doesn't help that every time I get a break between work and family I show up to 10 more pages.

I'm a little concerned about how little of BBT we're seeing in this game. Both of the other games I've played with him he was pretty active. Makes that slot hard to read.

I still have a gap between pages 30 and 50 to catch up on (which I'll try to get through in the next few hours), but I feel like Bell's been looking for easy wagons to start on LA/VLA players, going from me to Toog to CSF, and I'm not sure what after that

[Frogsterking]

1355 I think Dunn is telling the truth because I think Dunn is naturally suspicious of others and I think that point of view comes across in the writing about each player.

I think it's possible the writing could be faked with dedicated scum play, I just don't think that's what's happening here.

I imagine at the stage most of you are, you probably throw in some light wifom intentionally just to see if people see it and misread you on it in your favor. So maybe slips are as good as meta dives... not all that great for the most part.

Can you elaborate on this?

So back when I was playing, and even back then I didn't really get out of the newbie stage, but... wifom wasn't necessarily a tool, but a liability. I was just thinking about... what would people who have been playing for a decade or more be doing here to throw each other off? Cause I'm seeing some people in here with accounts from 10, 15+ years ago.

Maybe wifom traps? As either alignment. To get people to respond to things in a certain way to get a better read from them or push how they look to others in a certain direction.

I like theory and this just popped up for me during this interaction.

This is interesting, I'm going to give this some thought tonight. I have to say that even though my account is old I'm extremely inexperienced here compared to most players, so I don't have any insider knowledge.

[T-Bone]

{Best Bird}

{PookyTheMagicalBear}

{JohnnyFarrar, T-Bone, Lukewarm}

{Malakittens, Taly, Galron, Roden, Rad, Corwinoid, Dwlee99, Bellaphant, Klick, Bell, Cytosine and Guanine, Cat Scratch Fever, Enchant}

{Dancing Puppets, MalcolmTucker, Frogsterking, The toad}

{Off the Hook, Cephrir, Dunnstral}

{BlueBloodedToffee}

{}

Ha you didn't move me down, what a scumclaim.

[Rad]

It doesn't help that every time I get a break between work and family I show up to 10 more pages.

I'm a little concerned about how little of BBT we're seeing in this game. Both of the other games I've played with him he was pretty active. Makes that slot hard to read.

I still have a gap between pages 30 and 50 to catch up on (which I'll try to get through in the next few hours), but I feel like Bell's been looking for easy wagons to start on LA/VLA players, going from me to Toog to CSF, and I'm not sure what after that

Regarding BBT. I feel like this means something is wrong (IRL or some strange role), not that he's scum, or that he's town for that matter. It's non-AI.

[T-Bone]

I still need readlists from the following people:

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Taly Toogeloo
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Cephrir
Roden
Corwinoid
The toad
Enchant
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
Klick
T-Bone

You absolutely do not

[JohnnyFarrar]

Dunn looks great still. I don't agree, quite often, but I can see where the logic is

[Malakittens]

mew

[Frogsterking]

You absolutely do not

I'd like you to give him one, yeah. I think whatever you used to have against read lists was borne of mostly stubbornness.

[Rad]

mew

Hey Mala, everyone is being serious now. Please be serious. Thanks. I appreciate it.

[Lukewarm]

Speak for yourself, I'm not being serious now

[Corwinoid]

You absolutely do not

I'd like you to give him one, yeah. I think whatever you used to have against read lists was borne of mostly stubbornness.

I absolutely hate read lists also, and stubbornly refuse to give them.

[Lukewarm]

You absolutely do not

I'd like you to give him one, yeah. I think whatever you used to have against read lists was borne of mostly stubbornness.

He already made one.

And someone else else already told pooky that he already made one

[T-Bone]

Make me bruv

[Rad]

You absolutely do not

I'd like you to give him one, yeah. I think whatever you used to have against read lists was borne of mostly stubbornness.

1189 wtf