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[Taly]

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[Off The Hook]

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[Off The Hook]

I feel like Dancing Puppets could potentially be scum on the basis of a lot of their recent posts. Feel like there's a lot of stuff about them not necessarily having particularly distinct reads/being willing to sheep despite the fact that they have been quite active anyway. For how much they've posted it feels like there's a real lack of content there.

Do you think scum just admits they're going to sheep at the beginning of the game?

Granted, I think both heads of the hydra are normally very headstrong about their reads. It's a bit weird to see them both want to take a back seat.

this is such a weird post, i cant tell what roden actually believes.
its like hes trying to discrrdit malcolms thoughts, but then he actually says something thats sorta in agreeance with them?

[Off The Hook]

Hey bbt, can you explain? I was feeling that earlier but not sure now

i think this is +town for bellaphant, i was kinda taken aback from bluebloodedtoffees vote there too

[Roden]

I feel like Dancing Puppets could potentially be scum on the basis of a lot of their recent posts. Feel like there's a lot of stuff about them not necessarily having particularly distinct reads/being willing to sheep despite the fact that they have been quite active anyway. For how much they've posted it feels like there's a real lack of content there.

Do you think scum just admits they're going to sheep at the beginning of the game?

Granted, I think both heads of the hydra are normally very headstrong about their reads. It's a bit weird to see them both want to take a back seat.

this is such a weird post, i cant tell what roden actually believes.
its like hes trying to discrrdit malcolms thoughts, but then he actually says something thats sorta in agreeance with them?

I don't think I said anything contradictory here. I can agree about a behavior being weird but still disagree that it's scummy.

[Taly]

taly's besties

gamma:

passive vibes, especially from that

"hello taly"

post. I get the impression their mentality towards mafia has changed from last year where we played several games as opposing alignments. I missed their thought on

Titus

head in the skim and inquire on that.

marcistar:

I don't feel much depth to their questions or the opinions they've given, IE, skimming the hydra I don't know their reads well. I also see a lack of townreads despite the volume of people they're talking to.

OTH, vibe with me bbs<3

-townreads
-energy level/WIM
-memes

galron:

Coming from someone who has hydra'd with

Galron

before, I see nothing in

Galron's

ISO that's atypical. Doesn't like to give info about townreads but I am curious about

Klick

. What townpings is the consistency with

Rad

-town and

Frogs

-scum. I feel good about doubling down on my initial T/T read of

Gal/Rad

but I'd like to hear more from them about other slots. (Does "null" equal no thoughts or net neutral?) But I don't think that's very productive approach in sorting him this early in a large playerlist.

Galron

,

Frogs

PoE was 1000 posts ago, do you think their progression matches that original post?

titus:

TI

TU

S

I

EXI

ST

<3

. i declare myself a

titus

whisperer, my read on her is law.

nancy:

isn't mercilessly beating down players with scrutiny, so +town

ALSO HI NANCY <3

dwlee:

drowned out by the playerlist as expected, me want them around when they feel good i feel confident in my ability to sort them with some tea and lemon cakes.

dunn:

Much more active than scumgames I've seen of them and is attentive to how people respond to their roles and mechanics, which was different from how they approached a scumgame like Slaughter Hour. I'm not worried with this slot off their posts thus far. I'll be honest, this isn't an in-depth read specifically because

Dunn

is more active off first glance and so my initial ping is town, me no want to vote, me move on. I think someone voted

Dunn

? If so, I'd like to hear why.

pooky

poopy:

my strategy is to just meme until the vibe is off. me have done ugly TvTs and me have been fence-sitty T/T besties with this one. i dont have a strong first-hand perspective of their scumplay but their push for content is helpful in discerning a motive.

theMAFIAbear

, what do you get out of having the thread spew a readslist?

bell:

My focus is to parse the origin of their caution towards this slot and how that progresses to see if it comes from an informed perspective. So far I got townpings but I'm still thinking.

I just realized

Toog

has only posted twice and now I'm tilting my head at the suspicion there.

I'm failing to see the issue with

Toog's

413 since it's practically standalone, there was not much time for

Toog

to follow-up with his perspective before an accident (I hope he's okay ). And as a first post, the context of claiming role information and conflating it with alignment has a town motive in gauging reactions.

johnnyfarrar:

johnny

you prompted this from me, so thoughts?
rough feels of this group is that I'm still sorting but they're either null or townlean. which is interesting as that implies scum are players i am unfamiliar with.

i also have some familiarity with

ceph/penguin/mala/enchant

but nothing to construct much insight into them as a player.

[Taly]

it's summer y'all

[Taly]

Greetings. I may take interest in this soon, if circumstances permit.

I am a "headmate/alter." But we prefer the first term, Taly does. We can't think of an alternativel

~Sol

[Dunnstral]

Don't do it Luke

[Dunnstral]

I dropped a TR on them but I never explicitly stated I dropped the scum read there. But I just did.

I'm pretty sure townreading and scumreading somebody is mutually exclusive. You're saying you were doing both at the same time?

...While not really the case here. Have I never given you the speech about how I tend t make town cases and scum cases for everyone and choose which narratives makes the most sense to me?
It's usually something I do late game. But I've had a couple of people get tripped up and then keep tripping on themselves because they can't comprehend the mental gymnastics involved.

I periodically clear out unimportant information from my memory banks.

[Taly]

hmm, do i learn from every large game ive played last year or do i form a townbloc right here right now

[Off The Hook]

i think tbone focusing on how hes "not like the other girls" is another thing i dont like about him, i think the energy he uses to explain that could better be used elsewhere

[Off The Hook]

I feel like Dancing Puppets could potentially be scum on the basis of a lot of their recent posts. Feel like there's a lot of stuff about them not necessarily having particularly distinct reads/being willing to sheep despite the fact that they have been quite active anyway. For how much they've posted it feels like there's a real lack of content there.

Do you think scum just admits they're going to sheep at the beginning of the game?

Granted, I think both heads of the hydra are normally very headstrong about their reads. It's a bit weird to see them both want to take a back seat.

this is such a weird post, i cant tell what roden actually believes.
its like hes trying to discrrdit malcolms thoughts, but then he actually says something thats sorta in agreeance with them?

I don't think I said anything contradictory here. I can agree about a behavior being weird but still disagree that it's scummy.

yeah i said its weird i didnt draw a conclusion on if its scummy yet

[Off The Hook]

I have my own reasons for not liking Frog's slot for where I'm at in the game.

which are?

[Off The Hook]

When did Bell?

I think he's town but I recall you FoSing him somewhere.

~Titus

I think that the way they are treating me comes from town them. Calling out Toogeloo early in pt is towny. Their reads are believable. When they are scum they are more stilted.

PT? Who is in it?

scum would be more paying attention for things like this right?

[Bell]

I abandoned my PT. Don't go in there for at least 5 minutes.

[T-Bone]

So you don't care about my read and you don't want to explain your reads

Not really, no. I care about your reads on the player list as a whole and I'll answer specific questions you ask which I can understand.

Why?

Because whatever reasoning brought you to the conclusion that I'm scum is incorrect. I also can't explain anything to you unless I can understand what kind of information you're looking for. As long as I can understand what you're asking and you aren't asking too much I'm willing to try to answer.

Why are you scum reading me then if you think I'm just wrong??

I think you've done nothing before this point to indicate to me that you're town, and I previously scumread you based on process of elimination and activity level. My read going into this evening was that I can reason my way to 1/3 in this game, and I believed there to be 1 scum between you/BBT/Corwin.

I do think that the way you're arguing with me now is more like a Town who is just wrong. That's new information though, I didn't start to think that until shortly after I read 1419.

One scum in Roden/BBT/Corwin is such an eclectic group to tie together. What interactions do they have that leads you to believe this?

List is roughly ordered

TOWN
Klick
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever
Rad
JohnnyFarrar
Bellaphant
Lukewarm
Pooky

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Off the Hook
PenguinPower
MalcolmTucker
Cytosine and Guanine

NULL
Taly
Malakittens
Dancing Puppets
Galron
Roden
Corwinoid
Enchant
Dwlee99
Dunnstral
The toad
T-Bone

SCUM
Bell
BlueBloodedToffee
Cephrir

Tell me about why you put Bell here.

[T-Bone]

i think tbone focusing on how hes "not like the other girls" is another thing i dont like about him, i think the energy he uses to explain that could better be used elsewhere

I have the energy to do everything tyvm

[T-Bone]

I just realized Toog has only posted twice and now I'm tilting my head at the suspicion there.

I'm failing to see the issue with Toog's 413 since it's practically standalone, there was not much time for Toog to follow-up with his perspective before an accident (I hope he's okay ). And as a first post, the context of claiming role information and conflating it with alignment has a town motive in gauging reactions.

Do....you not know??

[Off The Hook]

I haven't read Rad's scum game (congrats Rad), but that is 100% his town play and exactly why I'm town reading him.

?

[Off The Hook]

do u want synced reads for the spreadsheet or just my own

[Bellaphant]

Taly must know?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

Wait why everyone even post readlists

We are not in RVS stage already?

[Rad]

I think someone voted Dunn? If so, I'd like to hear why.

That was probably me you're thinking of, and I immediately retracted it with some stated reasons. You can check my iso for them, the vote unvote happens back to back.