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[JohnnyFarrar]

Yoink

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Boop

I explained what I was seeing in my earlier posts.

I also haven't read past page 20 yet disregarding the last 5 pages or so

[Lukewarm]

Don't do it Luke

What in the world is this in reference to?

[Bell]

JF is lurking.
Kill him.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't even know how that has happened

[Lukewarm]

BlueBloodedToffee - ls
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus) - t
Malakittens - n
Taly - n
PookyTheMagicalBear - lt
MalcolmTucker - lt
Galron -nlt
Cephrir - n
Frogsterking - ls
Roden - ls
Rad - nlt
Corwinoid - ls
The toad - t
Enchant - t
Dwlee99 - n
Bellaphant - n
Klick - n
Bell - ls
Dunnstral - nlt
JohnnyFarrar - n
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9) - n
T-Bone - s
Cat Scratch Fever - nlt
Lukewarm - lt
PenguinPower - n

off the top of my head
ugh but im not happy w it so im gonna talk with gamma later

Marci, how is this a better system then just sorting them

[Lukewarm]

Also, I am only up to page 20 and I saw that Toog and Luke were in neighbourhoods. Has there been any news on the other people in there with them?

I'm with toog/taly. We don't know each other's alignments.

For the record, I have not been told the alignment of my hood partner either. But I am leaning town

[Dancing Puppets]

Spoiler:

So you don't care about my read and you don't want to explain your reads

Not really, no. I care about your reads on the player list as a whole and I'll answer specific questions you ask which I can understand.

Why?

Because whatever reasoning brought you to the conclusion that I'm scum is incorrect. I also can't explain anything to you unless I can understand what kind of information you're looking for. As long as I can understand what you're asking and you aren't asking too much I'm willing to try to answer.

Why are you scum reading me then if you think I'm just wrong??

I think you've done nothing before this point to indicate to me that you're town, and I previously scumread you based on process of elimination and activity level. My read going into this evening was that I can reason my way to 1/3 in this game, and I believed there to be 1 scum between you/BBT/Corwin.

I do think that the way you're arguing with me now is more like a Town who is just wrong. That's new information though, I didn't start to think that until shortly after I read 1419.

One scum in Roden/BBT/Corwin is such an eclectic group to tie together. What interactions do they have that leads you to believe this?

List is roughly ordered

TOWN
Klick
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever
Rad
JohnnyFarrar
Bellaphant
Lukewarm
Pooky

[gap]
Off the Hook
PenguinPower
MalcolmTucker
Cytosine and Guanine

NULL
Taly
Malakittens
Dancing Puppets
Galron
Roden
Corwinoid
Enchant
Dwlee99
Dunnstral
The toad
T-Bone

SCUM
Bell
BlueBloodedToffee
Cephrir

Tell me about why you put Bell here.

Yeah Bell should be a lot higher. At least is reads on CSF and Pooky are good though.

Rn, CSF, Pooky, Dunn, Luke, Bell, Taly OtH , Galron in no particular order are all pretty strong tls for me.

~N

[MalcolmTucker]

I think that Cephrir is very good at making people feel bad about voting for him. As I mentioned before, I associate this with his scum game more than I do his town game. I feel like that is what is happening here.

Catching up but despite feeling Cephir was townie early on I'm starting to largely agree with this. Cephir's responses to Dunn aren't the best and it feels a bit like Cephir is deflecting there. Going from town to suspicious a bit, albeit still working my way through the past 10 pages or so.

[Lukewarm]

Yeah I get that, it was just something that popped into my mind as I saw neighbourhoods being mentioned.

I'm not saying elim someone because they're in a neighbourhood. But if they're scummy AND they're in a neighbourhood, well that's just a bonus.

Based on the mod comment about roles being determined before alignment, I believe that the hoods were arranged before the rand.

And there for people in hoods would have the same odds of being scum as anyone else in the game

[MalcolmTucker]

I feel like Dancing Puppets could potentially be scum on the basis of a lot of their recent posts. Feel like there's a lot of stuff about them not necessarily having particularly distinct reads/being willing to sheep despite the fact that they have been quite active anyway. For how much they've posted it feels like there's a real lack of content there.

Do you think scum just admits they're going to sheep at the beginning of the game?

Granted, I think both heads of the hydra are normally very headstrong about their reads. It's a bit weird to see them both want to take a back seat.

this is such a weird post, i cant tell what roden actually believes.
its like hes trying to discrrdit malcolms thoughts, but then he actually says something thats sorta in agreeance with them?

I think this is a fair point from OTH and I'm not particularly trustful of Roden either. Catch is, of course, they won't likely be scum alongside Cephir given the bickering there. But I feel like one of Cephir/Roden could come back scum.

[Dancing Puppets]

BlueBloodedToffee - ls
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus) - t
Malakittens - n
Taly - n
PookyTheMagicalBear - lt
MalcolmTucker - lt
Galron -nlt
Cephrir - n
Frogsterking - ls
Roden - ls
Rad - nlt
Corwinoid - ls
The toad - t
Enchant - t
Dwlee99 - n
Bellaphant - n
Klick - n
Bell - ls
Dunnstral - nlt
JohnnyFarrar - n
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9) - n
T-Bone - s
Cat Scratch Fever - nlt
Lukewarm - lt
PenguinPower - n

off the top of my head
ugh but im not happy w it so im gonna talk with gamma later

@Marci, what does “it” “is” and “nlt” stand for?

[Lukewarm]

How come all of the leading wagons in this game are really bad?

scum are either strong players or lurking imo

If ceph flips scum, this becomes a funny post lol

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Pooky is always town until he shows me otherwise

Rad cuzza what Luke said (also I'm in their pocket)

<snip>

The attitude you described out of Rad in the bottom of 360 felt townie to me

Johnny, I'm looking at your ISO, and I'm finding the bolded is a confusing way to describe why you think Rad is town.

At the bottom of Luke's 360 was used to scumread Rad. In fact, you seem to be townreading Rad

in spite of

what Luke said.

It kind of looks like you forgot why you were townreading Rad, and made up something after the fact tbh

Spoiler: post 360

Like. The amount of annoyed for the reason he perceived that I was using to scum read him feels out of line with a townie getting misread by a single player.

And also, he literally just moments ago was making comments about me possibly being scum, and there is not hint of him now saying that I am scum making a shit push.

Johnny I would still like clarification on what part of what I said led you to believe Rad to be town

Like I see what you're saying that you think Rad forgot his fake scumread of you when talking off the cuff, but I think scum Rad doesn't fail to be opportunistic there. The fact that he had that layup and didn't capitalize on it says he's less interested in winning an argument. Which plays townie in my ears

Another supplemental explanation that came later, but again, I feel like nothing Luke said convinced you of town!Rad.

[Lukewarm]

BlueBloodedToffee - ls
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus) - t
Malakittens - n
Taly - n
PookyTheMagicalBear - lt
MalcolmTucker - lt
Galron -nlt
Cephrir - n
Frogsterking - ls
Roden - ls
Rad - nlt
Corwinoid - ls
The toad - t
Enchant - t
Dwlee99 - n
Bellaphant - n
Klick - n
Bell - ls
Dunnstral - nlt
JohnnyFarrar - n
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9) - n
T-Bone - s
Cat Scratch Fever - nlt
Lukewarm - lt
PenguinPower - n

off the top of my head
ugh but im not happy w it so im gonna talk with gamma later

@Marci, what does “it” “is” and “nlt” stand for?

I believe its:
LeanTown
LeanScum
NullLeanTown

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Rn, CSF, Pooky, Dunn, Luke, Bell, Taly OtH , Galron in no particular order are all pretty strong tls for me.

are these all your TLs/TRs?

I'll color these in green for you,

just give me the list of people you find scummy and everyone else is null and we're gucci

[Lukewarm]

Pooky is always town until he shows me otherwise

Rad cuzza what Luke said (also I'm in their pocket)

<snip>

The attitude you described out of Rad in the bottom of 360 felt townie to me

Johnny, I'm looking at your ISO, and I'm finding the bolded is a confusing way to describe why you think Rad is town.

At the bottom of Luke's 360 was used to scumread Rad. In fact, you seem to be townreading Rad

in spite of

what Luke said.

It kind of looks like you forgot why you were townreading Rad, and made up something after the fact tbh

Spoiler: post 360

Like. The amount of annoyed for the reason he perceived that I was using to scum read him feels out of line with a townie getting misread by a single player.

And also, he literally just moments ago was making comments about me possibly being scum, and there is not hint of him now saying that I am scum making a shit push.

Johnny I would still like clarification on what part of what I said led you to believe Rad to be town

Like I see what you're saying that you think Rad forgot his fake scumread of you when talking off the cuff, but I think scum Rad doesn't fail to be opportunistic there. The fact that he had that layup and didn't capitalize on it says he's less interested in winning an argument. Which plays townie in my ears

Another supplemental explanation that came later, but again, I feel like nothing Luke said convinced you of town!Rad.

I have a thought about this, but currently phone posting and not gonna try to dig for posts.

[Cephrir]

Willing to talk Ceph, what you want?

Can you give me some words on any reads you feel relatively strongly about, perhaps?

[MalcolmTucker]

How come all of the leading wagons in this game are really bad?

scum are either strong players or lurking imo

If ceph flips scum, this becomes a funny post lol

I feel like it's also the type of post that can quite feasibly come from good/experienced scum? A lot of the time you assume scum maybe don't want to draw any attention to what the makeup of their team could be, but in a big game like this making associatives can be hard and I can see scum being more willingly to openly comment on what the scumteam may be like, even if only to misdirect.

[The toad]

Hi. I feel a bit better now, I'm reading through the later pages but I'm still not 100% caught up on some of the stuff I missed. But if anyone has any questions, I'll take a look and try to answer them.

On a vibes level, I like dwlee, I like bbt and bella less.

[Lukewarm]

Order matters very little, I'd prefer to do a tier-style list but figured it's most coherent to stick with the structure.

town

Galron
Rad
PookyTheFluffyBear

+ null

Dancing Puppets
Dunn
Bell
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
JohnnyFarrar
Lukewarm
Roden
Corwinoid

? null

Klick ***
MalcolmTucker
Cephrir ***
Malakittens
PenguinPower ***
Frogsterking
Cat Scratch Fever ***
Enchant

- null

BlueBlooded Toffee
The Toad
OffTheHook
T-Bone

***

= notes for people to look at next, or people I haven't actually give any skim at or contact with so far

For as little as the townbin is I'd fight for it.

Aren't you the one who had me and frogster as S+S in your notes? What changed?

[Lukewarm]

How come all of the leading wagons in this game are really bad?

scum are either strong players or lurking imo

If ceph flips scum, this becomes a funny post lol

I feel like it's also the type of post that can quite feasibly come from good/experienced scum? A lot of the time you assume scum maybe don't want to draw any attention to what the makeup of their team could be, but in a big game like this making associatives can be hard and I can see scum being more willingly to openly comment on what the scumteam may be like, even if only to misdirect.

It is a NAI post imo, but I realized it would be funny coming from scum ceph

[Dancing Puppets]

Rn, CSF, Pooky, Dunn, Luke, Bell, Taly OtH , Galron in no particular order are all pretty strong tls for me.

are these all your TLs/TRs?

I'll color these in green for you,

just give me the list of people you find scummy and everyone else is null and we're gucci

It’s d1, call it what you like. These are the slots I would hard veto voting. I don’t make freaking lists like that. Read my iso I think I’ve made it pretty clear who I’m not currently feeling great about.

I townblock on d1, unless a player pings me as obvscum. I’m not going to argue with you about this, Taly also tried to pressure me into making a readslist in HDP and if you recall. that didn’t happen either.

~N

[The toad]

@Taly I mean, I'm right here.

What you want?

I understand the read, I really do. I haven't seen Rad mention me yet, what's his read on me?

Quickly losing desire to vote, I actually asked

Galron

knowing you were probably around to see if you'd communicate directly.

The initial thought was that you were holding reads to stall in time to make them, because almost all of your posts up until recently have given little impression of your perspective on the game.

And yet you've posted a bit frequently and the tone and diction feels similar to what I've seen commonly with scum.

But given the past page, I'm going to think more on this.

Following people's reads are difficult, I don't remember what

Rad

thinks of you hahaha, 26p is a bigger bite to chew than I thought.

Justify your lowest reads, please :3

This post feels off also

[PookyTheMagicalBear]