LOST (Game Over)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Mine

[T-Bone]

Tell me about why you put Bell here.

I think Bell is hyper-aware of how he's perceived by others in a way that I see as likely coming from scum

Hey finally something new from someone, I like it.

Roles are not revealed upon kills, but alignment is. There may or may not be ways to uncover roles. Flavor is not revealed upon flip.

Oh I'm silly. For some reason I thought that alignment wasn't revealed and was thinking this game was going to be a total pain to figure out

Funny thing, I had that very same thought at the start of the game, until one moment I was checking the player list and re-read the rule. Interesting.

See I'm not hip on scum BBt right now. It's too easy to catch a scum read early and then every thing you do comes under heavier scrutiny and is presumed scummy. Rebutting that presumption puts you on the defensive and THAT looks bad. It just kinda snowballs.

Good posting.

One scum in Roden/BBT/Corwin is such an eclectic group to tie together. What interactions do they have that leads you to believe all this?

It was based on PoE, not interactions.

I'm rethinking my PoE based on Rad's point about Blue's activity levels, my new take last night that Roden is townie, and CSF's initial gut take that Corwin is townie.

Assuming that my PoE was wrong, which seems likely, there is at least one scum who is collecting town reads, and Corwin/BBT/Roden may be getting scapegoated to some extent. I think Ceph is a great example of a slot who fits what I'm looking for and is playing well within their scum range.

PoE as in process of elimination? Like you mostly townlean the rest of the player list or what? I'm not following what you're saying.

It concerns me, though, that Frog conveniently forgot about mala who's been both low activity and low content when she is posting. It annoyed the hell out of me that people were up my ass for dealing with life issues, when mala's getting a pass with posts like

why is there 31 pages

NoU

-.-

mew

Actually that he's looking at every *other* low activity player is bothersome.

To be fair, he wasn't the only one. Re:Bell against well...you, for example. So like you're right that it's bad/scummy, but it's not unique to Frogster.

Spoiler: Readlists So Far

Highlights so far:

BBT is the most susp'd person - 14 scumreads 0 townreads.
Lukewarm is the most townread person - 19 townreads 0 scumreads.

Okay, Luke is right that white diagonal is satisfying. I thought this exercise was silly and didn't want to impede your fun but okay I buy it, at least so far for the pretty visuals.

I think I want to move Dwlee, Galron, and Corwin if you haven't already to lean town.

[T-Bone]

Let me help you with your vca argument: counterwagons are a fake concept 99 times out of 100

Confirm town this man

[Dancing Puppets]

@Corwin

Not true, Luke and I both TR Mala slot. You can find the exact point I decided to rule out the Mala slot for D1 in my iso.

You want to help me out with that, because your mentions of mala in your iso go from "I have played scum with scum!Mala and town with scum!Mala and I admit their start seems a little different in this game." in 482, to town binning her for pooky's spreadsheet at 1260, to not mentioning her again a single time (at least by name) until just now.

This is possibly a contrived attempt at pretend-solving, I specifically decided to town bin Mala around the time I posted 482. That was my main motivation for sharing that comment in 482. Mala isn't mentioned again because I had no new takes on the slot. That's not difficult to understand. If you're town and this isn't pretend-solving, then stop shading my slot for no reason.

Holy shit dude, you made a read ~52 pages ago based on the start of the game, FoSed every other inactive player, and never looked twice at your very early read even given the "content" of her posts. And you don't think that's giving that slot a pass?

What's the difference between townreading and giving a pass? And why does this bother you so much?

Reads change, he's showing no interest in re-evaluating her while mudslinging half a dozen other people for exactly the same things. Which suggest his motivations about one or the other aren't entirely honest.

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

[T-Bone]

My man, Frog!

If anyone still thinks Frog is scum, you need to give your head a wobble.

I'm the counter to his wagon and EVERYONE is scum reading me. It's so easy for scum!Frog to go along with this to kill his wagon completely.

Frog is town. So am I. Now go find scum. Thanks.

I thought you were getting run up pretty flimsyily but I do not like this. The last time I saw this argument both players were scum lol. How strange.

[Dancing Puppets]

Let me help you with your vca argument: counterwagons are a fake concept 99 times out of 100

Not true, while obviously not foolproof, they are often far more useful than that.

VCAs for example rarely have two competing scumwagons though it does happen, so in like approximately 78% of cases, if you flip scum. the cw is statistically highly likely to be town.

[Frogsterking]

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

and

give an enthusiastic tr

on Luke.

[Cephrir]

Let me help you with your vca argument: counterwagons are a fake concept 99 times out of 100

Not true, while obviously not foolproof, they are often far more useful than that.

VCAs for example rarely have two competing scumwagons though it does happen, so in like approximately 78% of cases, if you flip scum. the cw is statistically highly likely to be town.

im not interested in an extended argument about how probability works since it invariably convinces no one of anything, so i will just stop at "that isn't how probability works"

[Cephrir]

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

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[Dancing Puppets]

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

and

give an enthusiastic tr

on Luke.

???

Why did you bold and enlarge that? Most of the playerslist is tr him.

[Cephrir]

granted ill reeval if mala continues to do nothing but im way happier with her than other low content slots right now so i can certainly understand how frogsterking arrived at the same conclusion

[T-Bone]

meta

vca is trash

[Dancing Puppets]

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

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Are you disagreeing with this?

[Cephrir]

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

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Are you disagreeing with this?

no, im suggesting that what little she has done is readable

[Frogsterking]

Let me help you with your vca argument: counterwagons are a fake concept 99 times out of 100

Not true, while obviously not foolproof, they are often far more useful than that.

VCAs for example rarely have two competing scumwagons though it does happen, so in like approximately 78% of cases, if you flip scum. the cw is statistically highly likely to be town.

im not interested in an extended argument about how probability works since it invariably convinces no one of anything, so i will just stop at "that isn't how probability works"

+1 with the exception if anyone here is a stats teacher. I've been persuaded once before using probability by a retired stats teacher.

[Corwinoid]

granted ill reeval if mala continues to do nothing but im way happier with her than other low content slots right now so i can certainly understand how frogsterking arrived at the same conclusion

I am... actually surprised how acceptable I find this.

[Corwinoid]

+1 with the exception if anyone here is a stats teacher. I've been persuaded once before using probability by a retired stats teacher.

I have a math degree. I hate explaining math to people. Unless it's incredibly relevant I'm keeping 'real' stats out of my entertainment life.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I thought you were getting run up pretty flimsyily but I do not like this. The last time I saw this argument both players were scum lol. How strange.

Ewwww.

The last time I got wagoned I was town. So what?

[Dancing Puppets]

granted ill reeval if mala continues to do nothing but im way happier with her than other low content slots right now so i can certainly understand how frogsterking arrived at the same conclusion

Like it’s still early so could obviously mean anything but I was recently in a game with her where she did nothing as scum, so I’m not currently tr her.

So what other low content slots are you concerned with? I haven’t read anything that happened yesterday, unless someone thinks there’s something I need to see.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: Johnny

[Corwinoid]

I thought you were getting run up pretty flimsyily but I do not like this. The last time I saw this argument both players were scum lol. How strange.

Ewwww.

The last time I got wagoned I was town. So what?

Also not how stats works.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not saying it is

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm making the point of how whatever happened last time is not relevant in anyway to what is happening now.

[Dancing Puppets]

Mala hasn’t really done jack except make an odd rvs vote on us and give an enthusiastic tr on Luke.

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Are you disagreeing with this?

no, im suggesting that what little she has done is readable

I don’t sr anything she’s posted but I don’t have any kind of read on her yet.

[Save The Dragons]

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