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I was joking cause they are in a hydra.In post 1998, Taly wrote:In post 1993, T-Bone wrote:
I'ma be honest I don't know who Marci is.In post 1991, Taly wrote:pooky/t-bone i want to hear your take of marci!scumoff the hookhydra
I have Off the Hook as a scumlean but I don't remember why off the top of my head and I haven't reevaluated as of yet since I haven't found anything they've posted recently that caught my eye. But like if you have a meta reason for reading them town, that doesn't resonate with me, so I couldn't engage you on that point.I have a Twitch!
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I sympathizeIn post 1998, Taly wrote:honestly the vibe in our PT feels moment-to-moment but im trying to avoid paranoia as much as possible.
I like pooky for town. The list would be a brilliant thing to hide behind as scum, but I think he's being forthcoming with his own thoughts as wellIn post 1998, Taly wrote:pooky's the closest to build a consensus actively within this plist, you think that is town or scum motivated?Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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ill switch gears a bit since several people have expressed feeling lost hereIn post 1999, Dancing Puppets wrote:
I read those as joke posts re: Marci.In post 1991, Taly wrote:johnnydid you get to my thoughts about slots im familiar with earlier?
i vaguely skimmedBBT'stakedown on a post, i dont think "LAMIST" is ever an appropriate depiction of my playstyle.
cor, you made a post implying you felt the same but wantedBBTto expand - what is your vex with me?
pooky/t-bonei want to hear your take ofmarci!scum
kind of lost on thejohnnyscumreads
I don’t think he is either. Think Cephir could be town because he sounds different than in PA. I’m so lost as to who’s scum. :/
anyone in my+ null / townlist in 1704 is off the table for me today unless any whack shit is pulled or a consensus is absolutely necessaru.
(possible exceptions: T-Bone + as of recent, I want to hear from Cor about my question, I liked OTH's recent post about me, felt in good faith.)
this is the PoE but it's too large to suggest it as so, it's more of who i am going to focus on sorting for an elimination.In post 1704, Taly wrote:? null
Klick ***
MalcolmTucker
Cephrir ***
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PenguinPower ***
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Cat Scratch Fever ***
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i have no clue how many scum there are in this large a playerlist but 6-7 seem safe?
so roughly half the list is town, other is scum, given i am often wrong on 2 scum at this stage of a large game, 8-9 townies.
PoE needs to be quickly chopped down to 3.
gameplan set, yay!
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oof me bad at interpreting jokes onlineT-Bone wrote:
I was joking cause they are in a hydra.In post 1998, Taly wrote:In post 1993, T-Bone wrote:
I'ma be honest I don't know who Marci is.In post 1991, Taly wrote:pooky/t-bone i want to hear your take of marci!scumoff the hookhydra
I have Off the Hook as a scumlean but I don't remember why off the top of my head and I haven't reevaluated as of yet since I haven't found anything they've posted recently that caught my eye. But like if you have a meta reason for reading them town, that doesn't resonate with me, so I couldn't engage you on that point.
and fair enough
we agree on something makes me feel more confident then.JohnnyFarrar wrote:
I sympathizeIn post 1998, Taly wrote:honestly the vibe in our PT feels moment-to-moment but im trying to avoid paranoia as much as possible.
I like pooky for town. The list would be a brilliant thing to hide behind as scum, but I think he's being forthcoming with his own thoughts as wellIn post 1998, Taly wrote:pooky's the closest to build a consensus actively within this plist, you think that is town or scum motivated?"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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OP says 5, which seems low to meIn post 2003, Taly wrote:but 6-7 seem safePhone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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I think you said that scum!me is like hot knife through butter and town!me looks at everything through a magnifying glass. I ought to know it’s in my sigline.
To answer your question, I’m pretty much vibing with this read. I think J probably misconstrued your earlier comment about me, which is why I was confused.
I would be more than happy to mercilessly beat down scum, once I have a much more confident idea on who they are.
One thing I don’t vibe with you on is your Pooky read, I think he’s seems pretty town here. At first I also didn’t get wtf he was doing with that but it reminds me of Ari in PYP, she also made a lot of charts in that. Pooky also lacks that menacing tone he has as scum. Maybe the readslist thing could possibly be role related? \_0_/Dance, dance~ Fall Out Boy
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In post 1, Save The Dragons wrote:1. Roles are not revealed upon kills, but alignment is. There may or may not be ways to uncover roles. Flavor is not revealed upon flip.
2. There are 5 mafia and 21 town.
3. This game is bastard because it contains something bastard. It is relatively minor, don't expect tons of bastard mechanics.
4. Mafia is not determined by flavor. That means roles were mostly selected at random to determine which roles would be mafia.
5. There are ways for dead players to interact with the game, so it's important to not spoil anything or talk about the game while it's ongoing with anyone.
6. There is at least 1 vanilla townie in this game. The vanilla townie role PM looks like this:
7. Daychat and multitasking are in effect.Spoiler: cursed GIF
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oh i felt better withDancing Puppets wrote:Spoiler:
I think you said that scum!me is like hot knife through butter and town!me looks at everything through a magnifying glass. I ought to know it’s in my sigline.
To answer your question, I’m pretty much vibing with this read. I think J probably misconstrued your earlier comment about me, which is why I was confused.
I would be more than happy to mercilessly beat down scum, once I have a much more confident idea on who they are.
One thing I don’t vibe with you on is your Pooky read, I think he’s seems pretty town here. At first I also didn’t get wtf he was doing with that but it reminds me of Ari in PYP, she also made a lot of charts in that. Pooky also lacks that menacing tone he has as scum. Maybe the readslist thing could possibly be role related? \_0_/pooky!town after they gave me like 6 reasons to suggest why doing a readslist is good.
tbh i get the argument that, yes, readslists from all players are very effective for scum to manuver, but for a D1 with 26p, it feels necessary and pro-town"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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good point,In post 2010, Dancing Puppets wrote:Spoiler:
It’s not his asking for the readslists themselves that I tr, it’s what he did with them: the graphs. He’s keeping an ongoing record of the gamestate - something that is generally counterintuitive for scum to do.@T-Bone for p-editI think it's counterintuitive for scum because scum can often mold the gamestate to their desires, by keeping an active record of gamestate and consensus for town in real-time, it's more difficult to misconstrue events in favor for a scum-aligned narrative later.
how do you feel aboutgalron,nancy?
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then whats an AI action fromBell wrote:Pooky does that as scum too, tho usually later in the game. Sometimes as cover while calling other ppl lazy.
I’m correcting the record.pookyin your eyes so far, if one?"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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@Taly when comparing our lists, these are the people you've removed but I haven't:
Bell (we discussed, feel free to skip explanation)
Bellaphant
Roden
Galron
Mala
Nancy and Titus
Do you care to help me remove them from mine?
I'm missing:
T-Bone, and I don't think T-Bone scum goes after the post restricted Ircher slot. Seems actively un-fun, unless they're scum together but we're gonna save that paranoia for laterPhone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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I agree with CSF and Frogster that Johnny's read on Frog seems quite weak. If nobody else had been particularly SR'ing the slot then I'd put it down to town just having a gut-read early on. But given Frog got quite a lot of attention early on I think it's possible Johnny saw some momentum on a player that looks townie now and felt like it would be an ideal place to put their vote as scum.
From one POV you'd expect them to have backed off by now considering there's essentially an admission their read isn't that strong, but I think it's also possible Johnny could be fairly self-aware scum here if they haven't pushed much elsewhere and want to look as if they're at least trying to maintain some sort of pressure on a slot.- JohnnyFarrar
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Because it’s in scum’s interest to not have people know what’s happening. This behaviour is overwhelmingly protown and In the vast majority of games I’ve been in, this type of play has nearly always been from town.In post 2011, T-Bone wrote:Explain that please. Why?Dance, dance~ Fall Out Boy
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How many games as scum vs. town though? I’ve hydra’d with him a lot and he usually doesn’t effort this much as scum. especially since he’s not trying to control the game or push an agenda.In post 2012, Bell wrote:Pooky does that as scum too, tho usually later in the game. Sometimes as cover while calling other ppl lazy.
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oof, it was lost on me thatIn post 2017, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Spoiler: Johnny's Poe
Spoiler: Taly's Poe
@Taly when comparing our lists, these are the people you've removed but I haven't:
Bell (we discussed, feel free to skip explanation)
Bellaphant
Roden
Galron
Mala
Nancy and Titus
Do you care to help me remove them from mine?
I'm missing:
T-Bone, and I don't think T-Bone scum goes after the post restricted Ircher slot. Seems actively un-fun, unless they're scum together but we're gonna save that paranoia for laterCytosine/Guaninewere post-restricted? where is the source?
bella:I liked the questions they've asked so far and the timing at which they were done, need me to pick them out?
roden:saw them posit a town/town between two players in a post? (i should review this at some point) don't think that's typical for scum behavior when there's no notable 1v1s occurring? it's enough to make my eyes go somewhere else.
mala:ive seen mislimmed early-game for a lack of active, focused, nuanced content - i dont think they're a player that's well-read given the current site culture. im weary, i want to give this slot some time. itll be an easier sort later.
nancy/titus/galron:best that you ISO me for reads on these two slots.
nah im not feeling theIn post 2018, MalcolmTucker wrote:I agree with CSF and Frogster that Johnny's read on Frog seems quite weak. If nobody else had been particularly SR'ing the slot then I'd put it down to town just having a gut-read early on. But given Frog got quite a lot of attention early on I think it's possible Johnny saw some momentum on a player that looks townie now and felt like it would be an ideal place to put their vote as scum.
From one POV you'd expect them to have backed off by now considering there's essentially an admission their read isn't that strong, but I think it's also possible Johnny could be fairly self-aware scum here if they haven't pushed much elsewhere and want to look as if they're at least trying to maintain some sort of pressure on a slot.johnnyscumreads, largely because of how constructively they're discussing reads with me and mindmelding on a few takes so far. since the game is still relatively fresh it seems to be pure to me.
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In post 6, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:VOTE: Corwin
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I’ll help, read that insect game again, several times.In post 2017, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Spoiler: Johnny's Poe
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@Taly when comparing our lists, these are the people you've removed but I haven't:
Bell (we discussed, feel free to skip explanation)
Bellaphant
Roden
Galron
Mala
Nancy and Titus
Do you care to help me remove them from mine?
I'm missing:
T-Bone, and I don't think T-Bone scum goes after the post restricted Ircher slot. Seems actively un-fun, unless they're scum together but we're gonna save that paranoia for laterDance, dance~ Fall Out Boy
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