LOST (Game Over)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Poink

[Taly]

hi im half-asleep and just ate a cheese sandwich and its midnight and i need to sleep and my headmates are all gathered in the headspace holding hands and shit

[Rad]

Did you have a nice shower Taly?

[Taly]

mhm, soaked away all the filth and debauchery, im now fresh and clean enough for my soul to get stained with blood for the next day

[Taly]

some stains are never cleaned

umbra

[Cat Scratch Fever]

But it’s in the content. As scum. he really doesn’t do anything but coast. I should probably ISO him. His reads according to Pooky’s graph were off the charts wtf though.

Yeah, I think he's town and feel pretty good about that read right now. The sparseness, which he tends to get scumread for, isn't AI

I don't understand "all wagons are counterwagons to Cephrir"

Because the Cephrir wagon never really petered out. There are people who never left it iirc

I agree with CSF and Frogster that Johnny's read on Frog seems quite weak. If nobody else had been particularly SR'ing the slot then I'd put it down to town just having a gut-read early on. But given Frog got quite a lot of attention early on I think it's possible Johnny saw some momentum on a player that looks townie now and felt like it would be an ideal place to put their vote as scum.

yea Johnny's trajectory onto the wagon was ok imo, but I was looking at who was still on the wagon as an excuse to not do anything else. I see him solving more proactively now, so I could easily be wrong and I'm interested in where he lands

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2032 is a good idea, and now the hydra should have no reason to lurk

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After doing some reading, I am narrowed down where I want to move my vote to either Corwinoid and The Toad, but struggling to decided between the two.

Maybe they should just be dueling wagons?

I was townreading Corwin - I think that he genuinely believes in 1742, and 1763 looks like a fairly complex thought even if I disagree with its conclusions.

I'd be down for Toad though

[T-Bone]

klick might be more polarized then bell ngl

Is this a read or just a spreadsheet comment?

After doing some reading, I am narrowed down where I want to move my vote to either Corwinoid and The Toad, but struggling to decided between the two.

Maybe they should just be dueling wagons?

You promised me a wagon 6 hours ago and this is what I get??? What a scumclaim

[T-Bone]

I plan to use my platform as Confirmed Town to start a new wagon tonight. Buy like, 5 hours from now.

Stay tuned

Lim all liars bay-bay!

[Taly]

on this ominous note, goodnight for real

goodnight, buenas noches, bonen noktos

[T-Bone]

Ominous cause I set an alarm for Luke's big wagon reveal. I have been cheated.

[JohnnyFarrar]

That's dedication

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: The Toad

We can start Luke's wagon for him and give him a nice surprise when he comes back

[Rad]

Corwin ISO deep dive:

1361 - He knows BBT's style isn't to lurk. This feels like unncessesary shade.
1442 - Early town read on me. He knows I just won a game as scum. He didn't read it. I think he'd be more cautious, BUT he did play against town!Rad so maybe I'm an easy read for him. In this same post he's got a scum read on BBT which doesn't actually make any sense IMO.
1464 - I don't like his assessment of BBT here. It's very heavy on BBT not being active but again, he knows BBT isn't a lurker style player, and Corwin has his own non-AI lurker issues, so I feel like he should empathize with BBT here.
1469 - is fair, he was scum when I was town, he should have a decent read on me regardless, though I will say that it sure would be an easy thing to say as scum!Corwin here.
1473 - I mean, who cares if you like BBT saying "I'm town as fuck" - is it AI or not? He doesn't address that, he just doesn't like it regardless of alignment, which comes across scummy to me. I'm actually addressing it in 2031.
1474 - permission to read BBT scum
1710 - more permission
1723 - passes off BBT scum read permission onto me "I'm surprised Rad doesn't feel this way too"
1742 - I do like this, where he gives a reason for his own read instead of just asking BBT about BBT's read
1763 - It's a big game and it's hard to remember everything, is that a good reason to read scum on someone?
1843 - Ehh is this corwin just pointing out something that should be obviously scummy, but then not following up on it with a vote?
1897 - Good post, or scum!Corwin knows t-bone is town and can easily say this.
1902 - Null read on BBT? but had no problem throwing shade constantly.
And he ends with some stats stuff which is probably accurate bit non-AI.

I know corwin, as scum, can become very defensive. He's being very defensive here. I'd need to check his town game to see if this is consistent. I know in his post-game scum game with me, he maintained the defensiveness, so maybe non-AI.

I don't find his interactions with BBT match what I would expect from a town!Corwin. I feel he clings onto the "scum!BBT is so scary!" and never lets go. I was BBT's pet in my first newbie game here and I don't even look at him that way.

I'm leaning scum on Corwin.

[Rad]

Pooky I got some updates:

Frogster => Town
Malcolm => Town
Corwin => Scum
OTH => Null

[JohnnyFarrar]

I guess I should out my drawback as Hated if we're doing this again

While we're on the subj of "roles that make sense if faked"

Ceph's frustration at the early pressure sucks. That happens to me at IRL mafia with my family and I totally understand

222 gives me the yucks because the vote they had down was a lolvote on poopy

556 made me laugh. Not gonna link it cuz it's just a joke but I missed it the first time and wanted to give credit

A lot of good individual poking and prodding, honestly

So like, I started paying attention to their stated reads and questions around 922

because he mentioned me

and have found that they're pretty aware of a lot of the thought and the sentiment happening in the thread, but despite that there's a real lack of oomph or direction from them. I can see why wagons sprung up, because you

would

expect someone who clearly has a reputation for being decent at this game to be a leader here, but this game is hard and I don't have much direction either. Yes this could be faked and they're clearly self aware, but i'm tempted to call this slot town.

[Rad]

Pooky before we get near a real flip, I think you should share your doc editing rights with someone you can trust, so we can keep up that spreadsheet in case you're targeted. Cause damn it's so good.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Rad read that last paragraph and tell me if it makes sense. I'm having trouble turning my thoughts into words

[Rad]

Rad read that last paragraph and tell me if it makes sense. I'm having trouble turning my thoughts into words

on it

[T-Bone]

VOTE: The Toad

We can start Luke's wagon for him and give him a nice surprise when he comes back

I appreciate you, but it's just not the same.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to upload it to google docs and share it cuz we're not allowed to like communicate by outside means but it's not that hard to make a spreadsheet lol. I believe in the collective try-hard nerdiness of our team

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Toad

be the change you want to see in the world T-Bone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Is this a read or just a spreadsheet comment?

this is me poking fun at Bell/Klick at the same time because I am efficient with my trolling

[Rad]

I can see why wagons sprung up, because you would expect someone who clearly has a reputation for being decent at this game to be a leader here, but this game is hard and I don't have much direction either. Yes this could be faked and they're clearly self aware, but i'm tempted to call this slot town.

My problem with Ceph right now is his post 929 where he claims he hasn't even started playing yet.

When will Ceph start playing? Has he started now? Why hadn't he started then?

Clearly Ceph isn't going to be a town leader. By choice. Is that scummy? I dunno but it feels anti-town, as does his post about me at 1493

[Rad]

I'll go back to Toad but I'll switch to Corwin if Luke decides to.

VOTE: The toad

I enjoyed my time on the T-Bone train though <3

[T-Bone]

Pooky before we get near a real flip, I think you should share your doc editing rights with someone you can trust, so we can keep up that spreadsheet in case you're targeted. Cause damn it's so good.

VOTE: Toad

be the change you want to see in the world T-Bone

Oof I'm tempted, but following CSF?