Mini 2274: Terminator: Salvation Game Over!

[MathBlade]

I have strong feeling Math trying to dig on me.

?? I don’t follow?? You’re not in my PoE at all right now?

Because i called both teams bad as well.

?? I must have missed that sorry. I was speed reading. You can go in lock town too.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey math. Town's in a good spot and I'm betting the game you're town

[MathBlade]

Hey math. Town's in a good spot and I'm betting the game you're town

It looks like that based on how I read things.

I am not quite sure how the kills happened though or why.

I feel you’re town and in my lock towns but until I understand why two scum died when they seemed to be ahead I don’t want to bet the game on anyone town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Other than a growing worry over CSF/Aisa potentially both being scum, right in front of me, taunting me

I'm not really sure I'd want RR/Andante over them. I don't have any burning suspicions but I don't understand what Andante's thinking (nor why there are so many townreads on Andante). I'm scared that they're genuine but as of right now I kind of have been getting the impression they're playing up frustration. I'm really not sure where the immediate vote on team TWO comes from other than for maybe appearances.

I'm gonna read RR's comments on CSF now.

So, these are the mech posts that pinged me, though in my mind there were a lot more of these, I guess I got stuff mixed around in my head.

Spoiler:

Last blurb on spec I promise

but the role pm says we have our voice and vote, but glaringly missing from it is that there's nothing about voting out players from the game, which makes me think the leaders probably have control over the lims. So yeah, I strongly suspect read accuracy will matter.

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HEAL: Andante

This sounds like town!Andante to me.

are they always so dramatic?

Dramatic? They sound genuine and that’s why I’m so confident she’s town here.

what I meant was- they misunderstood my posts in pretty silly ways
I got the feeling that they read my posts, got slighty triggered and then overwhelmed with anger when they started writing and describing how scummy and rude I am. As if just writing that kept fueling their anger, causing them to notice new and new arguments for how I'm being bad (which actually were based on pretty simple misunderstandings- I don't think it should be considered scummy by a person who's emotionally sober)

I was asking if it's normal for town!Andante to get so lost in their feelings and lose track of reality
or like... if it's just normal for them to tunnel

sorry if I'm being rude again, I don't know how to describe it otherwhise

I don't think they lose track of reality, but yes Andante does play a very emotionally transparent game. This is completely within her townrange

Feeling town on Ejjinami, I like their analysis here and on 96

but the role pm says we have our voice and vote, but glaringly missing from it is that there's nothing about voting out players from the game, which makes me think the leaders probably have control over the lims. So yeah, I strongly suspect read accuracy will matter.

That is never going to happen and if it does i hope they get 186 as well

Never say never but yeah that would be kind of unfun

Another theory I have is they get special PR-like abilities based on what I'm reading about John Connor in the Terminator Wiki lol

However, they just seem weird and out of place, like I said earlier, like they're meant to draw attention away from relevant discussion.

Beyond that, the energy here is wonky. I know she said she was sick, and that's probably part of it, but... It feels very coasty, kinda going with the flow.

And then after being elected, the suggestion that she'd just pick her healers is demonstrative of a lack of care or investment. Like, if she's scum here, she's already won, it really doesn't matter who her team is, so picking something as superficial as that makes sense. And then she backed down when called on it, of course.

I do not see what you're seeing. I agree that CSF is light on content early, she's felt like she's not really trying to exert control over the game.

Could be scary scum hiding right in front of my eyes but I just didn't pick up on the wonky vibes RR was getting. I also think the reasoning at the end is stretching somewhat -- like does this:

And then after being elected, the suggestion that she'd just pick her healers is demonstrative of a lack of care or investment. Like, if she's scum here, she's already won, it really doesn't matter who her team is, so picking something as superficial as that makes sense. And then she backed down when called on it, of course.

Really seem like a fair description of this?:

Spoiler: a bunch of CSF quotes around the aforementioned area

If it comes down to the wire since we only have a day, I'll probably pick ppl who voted for me lol

Hmm actually

@pooky

, can someone be selected to be part of both crews?

ohhhh okay then that simplifies things a bit, since we don't have to decide who goes into which group

so we basically pick our top 5 townreads I think

I need to get back to work, but NAHA, Loki, Fidget, Gamma, ???

What does your ideal crew look like, Aisa?

I'd consider enchant.

Enchant, why did you hammer me for leader instead of hectic? We were both at e-1

FB is a maybe town, bc upon review of his ISO, I feel like his posting felt more scum motivated in Infernal Affairs than it does here... he's just like out here vibing. But he's also just a bigger wildcard in general, and idk if I can ever get to a point where I feel good and confident about healing there

ahhh I'll sleep on it. I should be able to make time for this game tomorrow morning

But for now, this is my squad!

Like, I didn't notice the "she backed down when called on it" part. Maybe I just missed it? This really doesn't seem like CSF feeling like she's already won, which I already think is a huge stretch, since we're just in the second phase and CSF didn't noticeably like, go down in content since becoming leader.

Fidget died and thought CSF/Aisa. Interesting.

Fidget was sussing Andante in the hood

[JohnnyFarrar]

We were split into two PTs, my group had little scum activity so we imploded with mislaunches and inactivity, other team found and killed two scum.

I'm figuring the last scum was on my team, clearing Aisa and Gamma. And since I'm not it and you're not it, that leaves Enchant, RR and Vivax

[MathBlade]

@Gamma which pronoun are you using currently or does it matter? Can you provide a summary of the other hood and why Fidget thought this?

@Johnny - I think I can vibe that assumption. Three scum in one hood seems odd.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey math. Town's in a good spot and I'm betting the game you're town

It looks like that based on how I read things.

I am not quite sure how the kills happened though or why.

I feel you’re town and in my lock towns but until I understand why two scum died when they seemed to be ahead I don’t want to bet the game on anyone town.

If you wanna know why scum died read thru my ISO until you hit the massive wall, then read that

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeah Gamma wrote us a whole novel about it

[MathBlade]

Going to read that after gaming with my sister.

Setting a hard pause so I don’t hyperpost

If anything else should be read let me know.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I've read precious little, you're about where I'm at

[Aisa]

Hmmm. Here is a RR towngame:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=87429
It's from a year ago, so treat with a grain salt, but I'd say the comparison to this game is not reassuring. They seem a lot more opinionated that game. Although, note to self, the fact things are low-stakes for town could obviously be contributing to RR saying they don't really have anything more to take a stand on right now.

I know I am entering a tunnel, but what if this is the

right

tunnel?

Does anyone else want RR
Does anyone not want RR
Help not sure what to say

[Aisa]

Actually I have been struck with inspiration as to what to say. Who did you think was voting you when you thought Vivax hammered, RR?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ooh neat question

[Aisa]

Ta. In your own words,

(I think this is what the youth call a "flail")

[Enchant]

I have strong feeling Math trying to dig on me.

?? I don’t follow?? You’re not in my PoE at all right now?

Because i called both teams bad as well.

?? I must have missed that sorry. I was speed reading. You can go in lock town too.

Now i don't follow your logic but ok

[MathBlade]

Leader Selection Final Vote Count:

Ejjinami [6]:

NotAHecticAlt, Andante, Aisa, Fidget, Cat Scratch Fever, Radical Rat

Cat Scratch Fever [6]:

Aisa, NotAHecticAlt, Gamma Emerald, Fidget, Loki Dokie, Enchant
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NotAHecticAlt [4]:

Firebringer, Cat Scratch Fever, PenguinPower, Ejjinami

Radical Rat [2]:

Andante, Toogeloo

Andante [2]:

Ejjinami, Radical Rat

Loki Dokie [1]:

Firebringer

Fidget [1]:

Loki Dokie

Firebringer [1]:

Gamma Emerald

not voting [0]:

Mod Note: Processing

Event

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-21 21:00:00)

I am having a hard time seeing RR based on this VC?

I am trying to figure out how Naha gets elected if RR scum is on the town wagon.
CSF is on Naha
So it makes it more likely the third scum is maybe Aisa?

[MathBlade]

Enchant makes sense there too but I don’t think it’s him. Like eww
Something is weird

[JohnnyFarrar]

You think all three scum joined one PT?

[MathBlade]

You think all three scum joined one PT?

I think one of the following has to be true
>> All scum in one PT
Or
>> Scum’s votes are weird at end of day one

Both of which seem logically improbable but one has to be true

So I am soliciting feedback after looking at some VCs

[Gamma Emerald]

You think all three scum joined one PT?

I think one of the following has to be true
>> All scum in one PT
Or
>> Scum’s votes are weird at end of day one

Both of which seem logically improbable but one has to be true

So I am soliciting feedback after looking at some VCs

Are you aware of what was being voted for?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also good q

[MathBlade]

You think all three scum joined one PT?

I think one of the following has to be true
>> All scum in one PT
Or
>> Scum’s votes are weird at end of day one

Both of which seem logically improbable but one has to be true

So I am soliciting feedback after looking at some VCs

Are you aware of what was being voted for?

Leaders. I’d except scum to vote scum for the most part given a town wagon (me) took off as leader. So two scum especially if we count RR as scum doesn’t make much sense.

[MathBlade]

Rr if scum could have tied me and Naha for leaders but didn’t.

I don’t get why

[Gamma Emerald]

What was Andante’s reasoning for pushing Penguin in the present hood?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I voted pengy sheeping ejji, lemme see what my past life said