I needed some direction in this game, and you're historically a good sounding board for my thoughts. I'm not blind to the fact that youIn post 2289, Taly wrote:im curious, i came in with several slots cautious or scumreading me but you've taken to conversation very well, why?
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couldbe scum, but especially in this big butt game, and especially on day 1, I'm way more into working with town Taly. Regret is something I can feel tomorrow if I need to.Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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I don't see much of an issue with Bella's posts so far. There's nothing particularly controversial or exciting in there but I think there are some pretty clear reads and some reasonable lines of thoughts that could be coming from town. I don't really detect any sort of scum agenda as such either, most of their SRs seem understandable to me at this point in the game.In post 2377, Bell wrote:How do you tell whether Bellaphant is scum or not.
I remember a long time ago accidentally mis eliminating them for playing kind of like this.
Just sort of mild pop-ins with mild takes all game.
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Malcolm - I see a consistent scum read on Roden in his ISO - 1191, 1785, 2229, 2265 (votes Roden), and I actually like his posts on the previous page where he was talking to Johnny
I'm not really feeling Ceph's scumcase (2301) there. I think Malcolm's Roden progression is fairly transparent. He further disliked Roden's lack of proactive curiosity towards Toad - the "evasiveness"
The "looking at Roden's ISO" could easily come from town who opened up Roden's ISO to check there wasn't something that they missed. This dislike of Roden's readlist is also tracks, because Malcolm also has disliked Toad (who was the one with only Galron in scum reads) and has criticized Galron for having a mostly null reads list as well.
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Also while you're inputting into the spreadsheet, make Taly --> null and MathBlade --> nullIn post 2380, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Malcolm --> town- MalcolmTucker
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Re 2368 Johnny - I'd not noticed Frog's posts you're referring to. Understandable reason to leave a SR alone for a while, I get that.
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I personally don't think scum would mind pooky getting townreads too much tbh.In post 2368, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I don't think you're scumreading pooky, I think townreads on pooky make you uncomfortable. And I think I know why
He is already a player that I think scum would want to night kill before end game, and I don't think of him as an easy player to miseliminate.
And he's not even trying to lead the town anywhere with those town reads.
If I saw him racking up a ton of town reads as scum, I'd probably just shrug and accept he is dealt with via night kills this game. And this is kind of how it feels scum have decided to treat me too.
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how do yall keep up with this game we still have like over a week left and we're just shy of 100 pages..
i think i could see johnny being scum, alot of his posts seem easy for scum to make. i think hes low in alot of peoples poe, yet a wagon hasn't built there at all? it feels like the atmosphere around him is being subtly manipulated but i can't tell by whoDon't get cooked, stay Off The Hook!- MalcolmTucker
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I'm not sure I specifically noticed this at the time re Toad but yeah, my general issue there was that there wasn't a lot going on in terms of SRs.In post 2380, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Malcolm - I see a consistent scum read on Roden in his ISO - 1191, 1785, 2229, 2265 (votes Roden), and I actually like his posts on the previous page where he was talking to Johnny
I'm not really feeling Ceph's scumcase (2301) there. I think Malcolm's Roden progression is fairly transparent. He further disliked Roden's lack of proactive curiosity towards Toad - the "evasiveness"
The "looking at Roden's ISO" could easily come from town who opened up Roden's ISO to check there wasn't something that they missed. This dislike of Roden's readlist is also tracks,because Malcolm also has disliked Toad (who was the one with only Galron in scum reads)and has criticized Galron for having a mostly null reads list as well.
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My opinion of Toad has since improved though - their play seems a bit more natural to me and they have a self-awareness at posting a lack of major content so far that's struck me as townie insofar they've drawn attention to it more often than I think scum would want to. I also think their response to pressure from Roden was fair and demonstrated a willingness to be interrogated and to respond, which Roden of course rejected.
I don't necessarily have an issue with a lack of SRs on D1, I get it's not easy in a game of this size and a willingness to admit you're lost can be townie vs scum who are desperate to appear busy. But with Roden it felt odd that they had one scum in their list who has the post count restriction, and another who they've consistently suspected but were unwilling to really push when given an opportunity to do so since their read didn't have that much elaboration. Almost as if they were looking for an easyish slot to sit on D1.- Off The Hook
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do u wanna chat abt this? idk how to read bellaphant but i think bouncing ideas around might be useful :shrug:In post 2377, Bell wrote:How do you tell whether Bellaphant is scum or not.
I remember a long time ago accidentally mis eliminating them for playing kind of like this.
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I've been feeling Dwlee town because as outlined above their vote on Pooky felt quite left-field and townie - like it was genuinely some original thought. Their ISO in general though does feel very focused in on Pooky individually (from TR to SR) and would definitely like to see more from the slot.In post 2388, Off The Hook wrote:eh i guess dwlee could be seen the same way, but i think johnnys been more present than they have so its just something that sticks out more for him.- Malakittens
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Because I am multitasking IRL and as I said last game I was horrible so I am trying this listening thingIn post 2339, Cephrir wrote:why isn't the thread drowning under a metric fuckload of Math posts yet
not that i want that to happen
I think it’s a thing worth doing
This feels kinda Townie like but could be NAI.
Tbh I just suck at reading math now soNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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i dont quite trust dwlee yet, but they arent the worst LOLIn post 2390, MalcolmTucker wrote:
I've been feeling Dwlee town because as outlined above their vote on Pooky felt quite left-field and townie - like it was genuinely some original thought. Their ISO in general though does feel very focused in on Pooky individually (from TR to SR) and would definitely like to see more from the slot.In post 2388, Off The Hook wrote:eh i guess dwlee could be seen the same way, but i think johnnys been more present than they have so its just something that sticks out more for him.
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Bella feels town.
Also bbt feels town
Gamma shockingly enough feels town RN
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I haven’t really given them much thought so far but I disagree that their scumgames and towngames are similar but not really sure I can explain the difference all that well but there definitely is one.In post 2392, Off The Hook wrote:
i dont quite trust dwlee yet, but they arent the worst LOLIn post 2390, MalcolmTucker wrote:
I've been feeling Dwlee town because as outlined above their vote on Pooky felt quite left-field and townie - like it was genuinely some original thought. Their ISO in general though does feel very focused in on Pooky individually (from TR to SR) and would definitely like to see more from the slot.In post 2388, Off The Hook wrote:eh i guess dwlee could be seen the same way, but i think johnnys been more present than they have so its just something that sticks out more for him.
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Okay thanks for how that’s shaping out that’s going to be a huge helpIn post 2346, Lukewarm wrote:
@MathIn post 1901, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Spoiler: Updated Chart So Far
So Far:
Top Townreads:
Lukewarm - 19 TRs
Rad - 17 TRs
Dunn - 16 TRs - 2 SRs
CSF - 14 TRs
Pooky - 14 TRs
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BBT - 12 SRs - 2 TRs
Toad - 11 SRs - 1 TR
Ceph - 8 SRs - 2 TRs
No Consensus:
Bell - 12 TRs - 7 SRs
OTH - 12 TRs - 5 SRs
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D-Lee 3 TR 2 SR 17 Nulls
Bella 5 TR 1 SR 16 Nulls
C+G 5 TR 2 SR 15 NullsScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I believe posting restrictions could exist and the game does have bastard elements.In post 2371, Dancing Puppets wrote:
It’s likely. I really don’t see either head making that up.In post 2298, Galron wrote:
Do you believe thy have a postng restriction?In post 2296, Dancing Puppets wrote:
Absolutely no clue so dead null.In post 2295, Galron wrote:Last 8 pages or so I haven't read but I was thinking C%G are a mystery. Nancy do you have any thoughts there? Taly?
I could see some based on type or something like that. I think a player could have a post restriction and another player be careful about how they say things.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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