LOST (Game Over)

[ProfessorDrapion]

Alright,
Rad - MathBlade - Frog.
Who else?
2 more baby!

[MathBlade]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.

Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost

But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks

[Off The Hook]

Alright,
Rad - MathBlade - Frog.
Who else?
2 more baby!

This feels shallow

[Off The Hook]

Alright,
Rad - MathBlade - Frog.
Who else?
2 more baby!

This feels shallow

~GE

[MathBlade]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?

Okay this is the nicer version of what I said. You can be town whether my theory is true or not.

[Bell]

Aaa fuck that's the grenade dropping I was trying to stop.

Far be it for me to jump to conclusions but there's one conclusion I immediately jump to.

I don’t know what conclusions you’re reaching?

That post is so out of context I think it was meant for a PT

I had a convo earlier in the game about Frog, Granade throwing. It’s in reference to that.
Though, I thought they did it intentionally as a reaction test

[MathBlade]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

Err…. What if you’re town with bad reads?

Scum team should still want to knock down the top town players regardless of their ability to read. Town read players aren't scary for their ability to read (that's completely separate and a skill thing), they're scary for making the less town read players more likely to be the target of town's focus.

Lol no

I have been left alive as mechanically confirmed town with proper reads because people distrust me that much.

Like this just isn’t a thing.

I can’t figure out whether this is arrogance from town or scum though.

[ProfessorDrapion]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.

Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost

But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks

Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?

[MathBlade]

No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.

Do you disagree?

Yeah, I do.

Just kill them? Unless their reads are bad, then let them live and continue making bad pushes while leading town?

You disagree?

I guess it depends on the skill level of the scum team? It's my experience that scum just kills the top town read player so as to not overthink things. Sure scum could decide something different but in general, isn't that just what happens?

I think NKA is one of the best ways to catch scum.

Assume I am scum incorrectly. I have a different kill pattern than most people. Who I kill would be different than who StD would kill. I have had discussions with teammates on who to kill and why in PTs. Applying one size fits all brush feels like fake content. It’s meant to say things but not actually be helpful.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Today Math makes a decision. He could be a winner or he could lose it all!

Will he vote Rad or Pass?

[MathBlade]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.

Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost

But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks

Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?

I am not sure yet. The only read I have on Rad is that Rad is arrogant.

I can’t tell if that arrogance is genuine or being used to fake reads.

[ProfessorDrapion]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.

Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost

But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks

Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?

I am not sure yet. The only read I have on Rad is that Rad is arrogant.

I can’t tell if that arrogance is genuine or being used to fake reads.

It might just be how he plays normally no?

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: Titus Readwall with few reasons 2.0

BlueBloodedToffee - Scum
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus) - Mystery Detectives
Malakittens - Townlean
Taly Toogeloo - Town, sheeping Nancy until we interact
PookyTheMagicalBear - Town for the day
MalcolmTucker - Would Lim
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar) - Hard town
ProfessorDrapion Galron - Galron was p town
Cephrir - Don't want to eliminate Day 1, gtmh town
Frogsterking - I want this to be scum, not sure if they are
Roden - Forgetable ok compromise
Rad - Don't want to lim but would do it
Corwinoid aka Math now - Town (mind meld Frogster vote)
The toad - Tonal townread
Enchant - Tonal townread
Dwlee99 - Would lim
Bellaphant - gmth town
Klick - Needs more shiny words
Bell - Hard town
Dunnstral - Probtown
JohnnyFarrar - Needs sorting
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9) - Weak townread
T-Bone - Town for the day
Cat Scratch Fever humaneatingmonkey - Probtown
Lukewarm - Probtown
Best Bird PenguinPower - Prob scum

~Titus

I don’t like the lack of scumreads here.

Have you given thought as to why so few? You don’t feel very attacky.

Where is I am going to attack people Titus?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Alright,
Rad - MathBlade - Frog.
Who else?
2 more baby!

This feels shallow

No U.

[MathBlade]

To simplify the fuck out of my thoughts here:

1. Are you (anyone reading me scum) scum for reading me scum? NO
2. Does scum have to knock me down from my heavy town read? YES
3. Can town do that for them? YES
4. Does scum need to do it if town doesn't? YES
5. Why does scum need to do that? Because I'm town and heavily town read and scum can't survive if town solves the game properly.

This seems rather arrogant and factually false or a tautology.

Question 1 I do not follow
Question 2 as established assuming you’re town, no they don’t if your reads are bad.
Question 3 yes town can misread town it happens a lot
Question 4 this is question 2 rewritten
Question 5 begging the question (assuming you’re town) if you’re town and you’ve solved the game correctly and all your TRs are town and believe it and then that you’ve narrowed down the precise scum team then yes definitionally scum have lost

But the sheer arrogance of that statement when not proposing a team or explaining a team but instead in a back and forth spat that makes zero sense to me makes me give zero fucks

Ooooo
You gonna vote Rad?
Or Pass?

I am not sure yet. The only read I have on Rad is that Rad is arrogant.

I can’t tell if that arrogance is genuine or being used to fake reads.

It might just be how he plays normally no?

Possibly. I don’t know Rad. I want Rad to speak about this game rather than some theory based “perfect” scum. Something tangible. There’s hundreds of pages.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Spoiler: Titus Readwall with few reasons 2.0

BlueBloodedToffee - Scum
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus) - Mystery Detectives
Malakittens - Townlean
Taly Toogeloo - Town, sheeping Nancy until we interact
PookyTheMagicalBear - Town for the day
MalcolmTucker - Would Lim
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar) - Hard town
ProfessorDrapion Galron - Galron was p town
Cephrir - Don't want to eliminate Day 1, gtmh town
Frogsterking - I want this to be scum, not sure if they are
Roden - Forgetable ok compromise
Rad - Don't want to lim but would do it
Corwinoid aka Math now - Town (mind meld Frogster vote)
The toad - Tonal townread
Enchant - Tonal townread
Dwlee99 - Would lim
Bellaphant - gmth town
Klick - Needs more shiny words
Bell - Hard town
Dunnstral - Probtown
JohnnyFarrar - Needs sorting
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9) - Weak townread
T-Bone - Town for the day
Cat Scratch Fever humaneatingmonkey - Probtown
Lukewarm - Probtown
Best Bird PenguinPower - Prob scum

~Titus

I don’t like the lack of scumreads here.

Have you given thought as to why so few? You don’t feel very attacky.

Where is I am going to attack people Titus?

Yeah you heard the man!

Be like me who when sees one thing wrong or you don’t like just Chuck them into your wolf reads and see if they become deeper or not.

[MathBlade]

I guess it depends on the skill level of the scum team? It's my experience that scum just kills the top town read player so as to not overthink things. Sure scum could decide something different but in general, isn't that just what happens?

Right, OK. So you agree that scum can just kill top town reads.

So, why bother wasting energy and drawing attention to themselves in thread by trying to push/discredit them?

You're literally arguing against your own original point here.

I like BBT’s reach out here. I don’t think there’s any SvS worlds here for Rad and BBT. I think if one of these two is scum the other has to be town. (I am not sure if any scum are in these but if any probably Rad) more I am relatively certain SvS is out.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I recently replaced into a game, didn’t get to do much and Rad won as wolf.
I was thinking of voting them as well.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Who’s on and ready to win?

[MathBlade]

Rad, are you suggesting widely town read people should be able to do whatever they want without being questioned otherwise it's scum trying to undermine town reads?

Because it sounds like that's what you're saying.

No, I'm saying that any town slot that's being widely read as town is horrendously dangerous to scum and they need to be taken down a slot. Maybe town accomplishes that for them, or maybe scum has to push it. But it has to happen.

Do you disagree?

Or they are playing a good scum game and aren't a threat at all!

This.

In games with huge blocks d1 generally means one of three things: Town are winning hardcore or town are losing or bastardiness or a mix. If I can sort the bastard I can sort which case (if any) applies.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi

[Malakittens]

Aaa fuck that's the grenade dropping I was trying to stop.

Far be it for me to jump to conclusions but there's one conclusion I immediately jump to.

I don’t know what conclusions you’re reaching?

That post is so out of context I think it was meant for a PT

But but

Scum don’t have daytalk

So no

[Rad]

NGL I can be pretty arrogant rofl

I have to read up on malcolm and DP tonight. And now I have to uhhh do this:

Possibly. I don’t know Rad. I want Rad to speak about this game rather than some theory based “perfect” scum. Something tangible. There’s hundreds of pages.

I got my work cut out for me then?

Sorry if you don't like my theory here. It's sincere. If it's wrong, ok! It's how I've been thinking about this list though. I truly believe that scum should want to knock down any

town slots that are highly read as town

(I think the "town slot" part got missed in one of my past posts by a couple people now). Seems like a no-brainer to me but if it's wrong, ok!

[MathBlade]

Who’s on and ready to win?

You’re being annoying

Who says sheeping you is winning?

Do you have a case or thoughts?

This game feels like a ton of people going

“Sheep me”

Another person “Why?”

Person 1 again “Sheep me”

Another person logs off

Person 3 “I can do that person”

Person 4 “Sheep me on new person”

Person 5 “Why?”

Person 4 again “Sheep me”

Rinse wash repeat

Can we like talk with versus talk at?

[Malakittens]

Mine