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[MalcolmTucker]

I'm counting 14 mafia reads on BlueBloodedToffee, 10 null reads, and 1 town read. And the 1 person townreading them has way too many town reads for them to all be accurate

So is this outdated, or is there otherwise a compelling reason as to why we are not eliminating there?

I wouldn't be surprised if this is outdated from early game. Still don't understand why BBT had so many scumreads. Certainly if it hasn't changed then that's interesting because it would indicate lots of players are SR'ing BBT but aren't actually willing to vote there for some reason. Which would be odd because I could see BBT being a viable wagon if someone who SR's them actually wants to work it up.

[Bellaphant]

Mine still aren't there

hey! while you're here, can you explain your dunnstral scumread?

I was nearly done iso-ing them when the masons thing kicked off and like....their iso is fine. It was a gut thing that I didn't re-evaluate, possibly because I find them a bit aggressive.

Last night I hated their position around 'roden must be lying ' when that was really obviously not the only answer, but with a bit of distance I think their refusal to re-evaluate 'on the hop' was more to do with them genuinely thinking the had a solve - why would scum push conf town. For a bit last night I did wonder if they were scum who though they could get away with it because of the info around the flips but I think that's a bit tin hatty. Also, I've seen from other people that refusal to re-evaluate can be town, rather than scum, I just struggle because I more naturally town read open mindedness.

Re&reading the masons thing (and their position around klick) I feel worse about dancing puppets and am just going to leave dunnstral as null (maybe town, it's not a slot in actually confident with my abilities to read so just isn't a day one issue - I think I'm pre disposed to scum read some of the things the slot is doing that maybe aren't ai.)
@pooky, Dunn can be null

P-edit I actually liked some of bbts posting around the masons last night, was definitely his towniest spate of posts all game

[Frogsterking]

Malcolm can you take a hard stance on any of Enchant/BBT/Taly

[MalcolmTucker]

Now that it's calmed down a little, can we (CSF + anyone else who wants to be helpful) meta dive Malcolm?

I have a hypothesis that Malcolm is more likely to get baited into 1v1 on D1 when Town than they have done thus far in this game.

I recall town!Malcolm getting involved in a lengthy 1v1 with luminous in the completed Large Normal I rolled scum in.

I could use help collecting data points on this idea, and I think it's worth pursuing because it's easily proven wrong and Malcolm is a viable lim today.

Honestly, one of the primary reasons I've not probably gotten into a lengthy 1v1 is because I'm generally asleep when there are dozens of pages of content being produced. That's not necessarily meant as a complaint - just to point out that a lot of my posts are largely having to be catch-ups as I see what's being happening with the game from the night before. I don't think I'm necessarily a hugely confrontational player but I'm not inherently opposed to conflict here either, I'm just often offline when the game is at its most active.

I think this looks like a scum excuse on paper and in the big picture I feel like you're probably telling the truth.

Yeah it's not a particularly good excuse, but if you look at when I'm posting (like right now) I'm constantly having to play catch-up.

I would argue I'm not necessarily incredibly confrontational when it comes to 1v1's - I'll get into an argument or heated discussion to push scum if I need to but I'm rarely an intensely active player who takes up pages upon pages over a read, irrespective of my alignment.

[MalcolmTucker]

Malcolm can you take a hard stance on any of Enchant/BBT/Taly

Enchant-null, hard slot to read
BBT-town
Taly-townlean, but don't like the Dunn vote

[MalcolmTucker]

Johnny or Drapion would be my preferred votes. But for the sake of compromise I guess I could consider Enchant if that gets any traction. It feels like running up someone to 14 here is going to be very difficult.

[Bellaphant]

Hi Malcolm, we are awake together and i change my mind on your alignment literally half way through your posts sometimes. Can you throw a question or two my way?

[MalcolmTucker]

Hi Malcolm, we are awake together and i change my mind on your alignment literally half way through your posts sometimes. Can you throw a question or two my way?

Sure.

What's your read on Johnny?
What's your read on Dunn?
What's making you uncertain about my alignment?

Apologies if you've already clarified any of that.

[Frogsterking]

By the way, Bella are you down to vote Enchant for D1?

[Dunnstral]

I can more easily see town Bellaphant and MalcolmTucker now. I'm trying not to be biased. I also think that BlueBloodedToffee's posting around the masons was their best bit of posting but was wondering if that is enough.

[Dunnstral]

Johnny felt genuine to me earlier when they were campaigning (my own words).

Hmm, this is a difficult game. It's hard to find mafia here.

[Bellaphant]

Johnny could very easily be scum . I don't see them making much a thread impact and the only thing that sticks out to me is that they seem to be around to get a few page tops but not massively enagge with anything else. Tbf I basically think the same about mala and I get the vibe that a fair few people are town reading her! Johnny is worse than mala for me because I can tell by his post count that he has content but my mind just slides off the slot.

I just spoke to cat about Dunn. I think Dunn is a player i will always have trouble reading. It worries me that some of my scum reads are based on 'tone', but I don't think it's a big an issue as I think : for example, I'm starting to town read t bone!

With you I read your posts and go 'yes, no, what? Yes...' in the same post. This happened a lot around your corwin stuff. It's odd to me because I find most players, especially the vocal ones in this game, are very straight to the point so it's easier to just follow and then say 'yes/no/that's scummy'.

@frog, I hard town read them in the very early game for meta, the thing I found towny has disappeared so would be down, yeah.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok done updating for tonight ^_^

I'll review Taly tomm

[Cephrir]

we are not eliminating the Professor. cast this foul thought from your minds.

[Klick]

Okay, am I in completely different world than the rest of you or are some people being completely anti-town in their approach here?

Bell is town

[Enchant]

@all

I think this makes sense, looking at my null reads

VOTE: Enchant

What's leading you in this direction? I find Enchant pretty impossible to read.

Because I have a million townreads and Enchant is null, and Dunn is my only townread towncasing Enchant, whereas other slots have stronger support. I feel like I normally feel better about Enchant by now as well, they seem pretty low energy in this game.

You literally admitting your lazyness in pushing real mafs, because they are supported by someone else

Literally bruh.

[Enchant]

Like you realise that mafia always have support, unless they bus?

[Bellaphant]

VOTE: ceph

[RCEnigma]

Pushing Dunn off the back of Luke is the only ‘Active’ thing I’ve seen Johnny do since I’ve repped in. Latching onto something dubious a townie has done AFTER another townie attacks it is mafia 101 or something, idk I dropped out.

But my Johnny vote is because their pop in on the mason situation was Wolfy.

[RCEnigma]

I will go through johnnys iso but I’m already biased so I’ll only pick out the scummy things k.

[RCEnigma]

Also I already gave my word that I’d give them a day and I’m no liar. But I still think Math is scum.

[RCEnigma]

Fuck me that’s a lengthy iso.

[Bellaphant]

(more than happy to vote Johnny)

[RCEnigma]

I read 100 posts with my eyes glazed, Where am I?!?!

My point on the pop in still stands.

[Off The Hook]

are we just letting mafia sort dunn for us? im confused it seems like the pressure there has eased up alot and i dont get why?