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[Dancing Puppets]

VOTE: Pooky

Bad vote

[Taly]

The shameless, aggressive omgus from they who will not be named personally grinds my gears. I don't like the play. I still don't think it is scummy.

i hope youre not meaning me doll

[T-Bone]

Please know it's done with love! I'm fulfilling a promise!

Spoiler: How Bone Trounces Lost Mafia: A Blueprint

So knowing what I know about the game now, these are easy choices. Anyway first off, we limmed someone 100 pages ago, letting the game get to page 250 is nonsense and this is my fanfiction. Either Ceph, Dunn, or Frogster, I'd have let one of them go by now. Since this is by the Professor's request, we'll say it was Frogster and he was my scum buddy. Well of course, there's no way I'd pass up on eliminating a scum buddy on day 1. I would have become a strong, but not the strongest voice on that train. I'd probably sit somewhere behind Luke as the second most townread player too. Anyway the night 1 kill is easy, DNA gets done dirty. Why you may ask? Because they with their post restriction, are an unknown. I would also kill anyone who got replaced over night, because again, I have my perfect endgame constructed already from the current players and don't want that changed. Matt already came in and ruined what probably would have been my preferred plan of letting one of my top townreads get eliminated. But that's okay, this is a heroic tale, and part of the hero's journey is struggle.

For my end game I'd have DP/Math there for sure as an easy pocket and potential mislim at the end (only need one of them to fill the niche). I would take some of my town reads too, I'd probably have to give up one of like Johnny, Ceph, Dunn to mislims at some point. Chances are I'd lose another scum buddy because of night action usage, ideally around Day 4 or 5, but I could adapt if we got there earlier. After DNA I'd probably kill off players who have me as like their 3rd or 4th scumread, if any exist at this point. I imagine by like Day 3 or 4 that could be come an issue. I'd be lucky if after Frog's scum flip someone still scum read me, because then they'd be an easy lim. So in this case that's the Professor gone Day 3 at the latest. I'd have one but not both masons killed, leave the other alive towards the end game. I only need 2 viable mislims in the end game. Maybe I'd keep around a secondary scum read like Bell or CSF or someone in that range. I also need to give my remaining scum buddies and the remaining townies one more viable mislim. Anyone who professes to use VCA or Meta is an absolute MUST for the end game imo, because by this point they will be questioning their meta reads on the players they left alive (why isn't Pooky dead, am I looking at the wrong scum game?) or some poor townie is going to look bad to a VCAer come Day 6/7. So there's a little leeway as to whom this person is. (Though if Pooky actually kept up on the reads grid I'd have to let him go via NK). But I'd definitely bring those types of players and their counterparts. Also gotta bring at least one, if not two, low post volume players. I imagine one of those low volume posters would be a scum buddy anyway, so a 1v1 between the two of them would also be a viable end game move. I also might NK people still fighting for the pagetops out of spite.

So there's my basic blueprint, in case you want to start framing me, scum team.

If I said I would bring you to the end game it doesn't mean I think you're a bad player, please don't be upset. It means I just think you'd fit well for what I'd try to accomplish. I think everyone is pretty great at mafia overall and plays to the best of their abilities always! I don't want to answer specific questions that might lead to hurt feelings because I suggested I would try to mislim you or other wise use your play for X reason.

[Taly]

oh my god, i never get pagetop tf

[T-Bone]

I was gonna pagetop that too, thanks for ruining it, some big scumclaims up there!

[Dunnstral]

We are going to have to accept that anybody who we try to vote is going to complain about the game being too long and not being able to post, and how they are only being voted for activity.

[Taly]

We are going to have to accept that anybody who we try to vote is going to complain about the game being too long and not being able to post, and how they are only being voted for activity.

ok but that's a fraction of my defense. i think to brand my stance as that is trivializing and convenient for you.

[Dancing Puppets]

Mala, if you explained your vote on Taly, it might help idk. People (myself included hello) are just wagoning anyone who's not a strong townread at this point, because this day has gone on for over 200 pages and fatigue is hitting hard

Ngl it’s prob a really shitty reasoning but it has to do with toog

I didn’t like the replacement, dead stop.

I know toog isn’t a fan of being scum in large games

Mala, if you explained your vote on Taly, it might help idk. People (myself included hello) are just wagoning anyone who's not a strong townread at this point, because this day has gone on for over 200 pages and fatigue is hitting hard

Ngl it’s prob a really shitty reasoning but it has to do with toog

I didn’t like the replacement, dead stop.

I know toog isn’t a fan of being scum in large games

VOTE: Taly

I think this is not a shitty reason. Scum are more likely to replace out than town. I have quantitative evidence, a research paper published at stanford used this very website as a corpus and revealed in their dataset that replacements were 6% more likely to be scum.

That's just from their dataset overall. I bet in some situations (like maybe large games?) scum are even more likely to replace out.

What's worse is the way Toogle did it IMO and the fact you know Toogle doesn't like playing scum. Taly is voting me right now for no good reason and I know for a fact I am town. I say GET HER

You two are forgetting or don't care that Toogeloo replaced out mostly due to getting into a car accident. Blindly quoting statistics without considering the circumstances is not the way.

+1

Thankfully someone isn’t making me lose faith in this playerlist. Taly wagon is beyond gross.

[Cephrir]

it is just neighbor and i don't think that's an insignificant role.

why would you say this...

[Taly]

maybe there's a reason,

*drops some bread for the toucans*

[Cephrir]

I am getting scum pings on more and more of Nancy's posts, and agree with Bell that Titus's vote was weird and unexplained.

Would not be sad at their elimination.

Involuntarily drooling over this post

Well, I already don’t tr you.

really??? i had no idea, you should keep posting about it in case we forget

[Cephrir]

I greatly dislike the now pattern of frog trying to pocket nancy

You want me dead and you still.make this statement? Similar to your progression on me and Math. you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth again.

i am not preflipping i am sorry if you expect me to but you will continue to be disappointed

[Dancing Puppets]

VOTE: Taly

:/

[Bellaphant]

Please know it's done with love! I'm fulfilling a promise!

Spoiler: How Bone Trounces Lost Mafia: A Blueprint

So knowing what I know about the game now, these are easy choices. Anyway first off, we limmed someone 100 pages ago, letting the game get to page 250 is nonsense and this is my fanfiction. Either Ceph, Dunn, or Frogster, I'd have let one of them go by now. Since this is by the Professor's request, we'll say it was Frogster and he was my scum buddy. Well of course, there's no way I'd pass up on eliminating a scum buddy on day 1. I would have become a strong, but not the strongest voice on that train. I'd probably sit somewhere behind Luke as the second most townread player too. Anyway the night 1 kill is easy, DNA gets done dirty. Why you may ask? Because they with their post restriction, are an unknown. I would also kill anyone who got replaced over night, because again, I have my perfect endgame constructed already from the current players and don't want that changed. Matt already came in and ruined what probably would have been my preferred plan of letting one of my top townreads get eliminated. But that's okay, this is a heroic tale, and part of the hero's journey is struggle.

For my end game I'd have DP/Math there for sure as an easy pocket and potential mislim at the end (only need one of them to fill the niche). I would take some of my town reads too, I'd probably have to give up one of like Johnny, Ceph, Dunn to mislims at some point. Chances are I'd lose another scum buddy because of night action usage, ideally around Day 4 or 5, but I could adapt if we got there earlier. After DNA I'd probably kill off players who have me as like their 3rd or 4th scumread, if any exist at this point. I imagine by like Day 3 or 4 that could be come an issue. I'd be lucky if after Frog's scum flip someone still scum read me, because then they'd be an easy lim. So in this case that's the Professor gone Day 3 at the latest. I'd have one but not both masons killed, leave the other alive towards the end game. I only need 2 viable mislims in the end game. Maybe I'd keep around a secondary scum read like Bell or CSF or someone in that range. I also need to give my remaining scum buddies and the remaining townies one more viable mislim. Anyone who professes to use VCA or Meta is an absolute MUST for the end game imo, because by this point they will be questioning their meta reads on the players they left alive (why isn't Pooky dead, am I looking at the wrong scum game?) or some poor townie is going to look bad to a VCAer come Day 6/7. So there's a little leeway as to whom this person is. (Though if Pooky actually kept up on the reads grid I'd have to let him go via NK). But I'd definitely bring those types of players and their counterparts. Also gotta bring at least one, if not two, low post volume players. I imagine one of those low volume posters would be a scum buddy anyway, so a 1v1 between the two of them would also be a viable end game move. I also might NK people still fighting for the pagetops out of spite.

So there's my basic blueprint, in case you want to start framing me, scum team.

If I said I would bring you to the end game it doesn't mean I think you're a bad player, please don't be upset. It means I just think you'd fit well for what I'd try to accomplish. I think everyone is pretty great at mafia overall and plays to the best of their abilities always! I don't want to answer specific questions that might lead to hurt feelings because I suggested I would try to mislim you or other wise use your play for X reason.

<3

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: lukewarm

Ceph might be better. He wants his cake and eat it. He pocketed Math while voting him and now he wants me dead while accusing you of pocketing me.

What’s wrong with that picture?

But if Luke is serious after everything he’s posted until this point. I don’t know what to think.

If you want to flip the wagon onto Ceph then you will lose TBone's support, who is an influential voice. The best strategy to get the wagon onto Ceph is to convince everyone to follow Roden who is the more active of the two mason's. Roden has familiarity with Ceph's scum game and FoSed Ceph at one point for flame baiting, which they still appear to be doing.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

2.

doubly so trying to rethink current wagons outside of my own, even when i am a viable elimination

"johnny/mala/frogs"

I did start to doubt you were scum here, but you ended up with Mala and Frogs in your will-lim bucket anyway when I asked for it

3. i dont votepark onto nothing and intentionally let that perception accrue when i have people's judgment

This is what I don't get, and Nancy has said this too. If you're just busier IRL nowadays since the last time you played as scum, would you really be around in the thread more to like... manage perception and stuff?

Like I'm not sure if you're playing differently to your old scumgames here because you're town or if you're just too busy nowadays to play an effective scum game, if that makes sense.

As for the other stuff, I'm so tired right now; I can't verify your meta

the only problem with my slot is that this D1 is disgustingly long with 200+ pages with 26p and the strongest reads on me are from players who townread me or do not want to eliminate me this early that I have played with before nancy/johnny/pooky.

I mean, this does make me doubt my scumread somewhat, but the thing Nancy said hasn't been addressed by my hypothesis that you're just too busy now

and Johnny and Pooky haven't really expounded on why they think you're town tbh

This is probably annoying to respond to, so I'll just say the bolded is what I'm most interested in

[Cephrir]

VOTE: lukewarm

Ceph might be better. He wants his cake and eat it. He pocketed Math while voting him and now he wants me dead while accusing you of pocketing me.

What’s wrong with that picture?

But if Luke is serious after everything he’s posted until this point. I don’t know what to think.

If you want to flip the wagon onto Ceph then you will lose TBone's support, who is an influential voice. The best strategy to get the wagon onto Ceph is to convince everyone to follow Roden who is the more active of the two mason's. Roden has familiarity with Ceph's scum game and FoSed Ceph at one point for flame baiting, which they still appear to be doing.

did you mean to post this in your scum PT?

[Dunnstral]

Please know it's done with love! I'm fulfilling a promise!

Spoiler: How Bone Trounces Lost Mafia: A Blueprint

So knowing what I know about the game now, these are easy choices. Anyway first off, we limmed someone 100 pages ago, letting the game get to page 250 is nonsense and this is my fanfiction. Either Ceph, Dunn, or Frogster, I'd have let one of them go by now. Since this is by the Professor's request, we'll say it was Frogster and he was my scum buddy. Well of course, there's no way I'd pass up on eliminating a scum buddy on day 1. I would have become a strong, but not the strongest voice on that train. I'd probably sit somewhere behind Luke as the second most townread player too. Anyway the night 1 kill is easy, DNA gets done dirty. Why you may ask? Because they with their post restriction, are an unknown. I would also kill anyone who got replaced over night, because again, I have my perfect endgame constructed already from the current players and don't want that changed. Matt already came in and ruined what probably would have been my preferred plan of letting one of my top townreads get eliminated. But that's okay, this is a heroic tale, and part of the hero's journey is struggle.

For my end game I'd have DP/Math there for sure as an easy pocket and potential mislim at the end (only need one of them to fill the niche). I would take some of my town reads too, I'd probably have to give up one of like Johnny, Ceph, Dunn to mislims at some point. Chances are I'd lose another scum buddy because of night action usage, ideally around Day 4 or 5, but I could adapt if we got there earlier. After DNA I'd probably kill off players who have me as like their 3rd or 4th scumread, if any exist at this point. I imagine by like Day 3 or 4 that could be come an issue. I'd be lucky if after Frog's scum flip someone still scum read me, because then they'd be an easy lim. So in this case that's the Professor gone Day 3 at the latest. I'd have one but not both masons killed, leave the other alive towards the end game. I only need 2 viable mislims in the end game. Maybe I'd keep around a secondary scum read like Bell or CSF or someone in that range. I also need to give my remaining scum buddies and the remaining townies one more viable mislim. Anyone who professes to use VCA or Meta is an absolute MUST for the end game imo, because by this point they will be questioning their meta reads on the players they left alive (why isn't Pooky dead, am I looking at the wrong scum game?) or some poor townie is going to look bad to a VCAer come Day 6/7. So there's a little leeway as to whom this person is. (Though if Pooky actually kept up on the reads grid I'd have to let him go via NK). But I'd definitely bring those types of players and their counterparts. Also gotta bring at least one, if not two, low post volume players. I imagine one of those low volume posters would be a scum buddy anyway, so a 1v1 between the two of them would also be a viable end game move. I also might NK people still fighting for the pagetops out of spite.

So there's my basic blueprint, in case you want to start framing me, scum team.

If I said I would bring you to the end game it doesn't mean I think you're a bad player, please don't be upset. It means I just think you'd fit well for what I'd try to accomplish. I think everyone is pretty great at mafia overall and plays to the best of their abilities always! I don't want to answer specific questions that might lead to hurt feelings because I suggested I would try to mislim you or other wise use your play for X reason.

Meta is trash

[T-Bone]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and Johnny and Pooky haven't really expounded on why they think you're town tbh

toogeloo's first post was townie af

[Dancing Puppets]

Not to be mean, but I'm pretty sold on not eliminating basically all of the other top options, so you're gonna have to help me out here. Johnny is not a compromise for me. Neither is Frog. Neither is Taly.

Rad?
Dunn?
CSF?

I tr Dunn and CSF. I would do Ceph, he wants me dead but accuses Frog of pocketing me.

[Frogsterking]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

TBone do you think Ceph is town or do you just want to wait longer to see if he starts town telling?

[Lukewarm]

Let's kill frog!

[T-Bone]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

TBone do you think Ceph is town or do you just want to wait longer to see if he starts town telling?

I think Ceph is town.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I did start to doubt you were scum here, but you ended up with Mala and Frogs in your will-lim bucket anyway when I asked for it

@Taly: I should also say that I still think Frogs is town in spite (or even because of) his chaotic play, and I've lost confidence in Mala flipping scum based on how aggro she is right now

I haven't read anything. I probably won't be able to commit to this game until the weekend.

I claim being in a PT with another player though, so I should be good .

@Pooky: Was it? I feel like divining an alignment from this is like drawing water from a stone, but my brain is also the size of a cat's so idk