LOST (Game Over)

[Rad]

Let's kill frog!

But if we kill frog all the scum will be revealed so sayeth the professor!

[Rad]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

TBone do you think Ceph is town or do you just want to wait longer to see if he starts town telling?

I think Ceph is town.

Can you elaborate on this read a bit?

[Dancing Puppets]

Narrowing down my willing to vote list. Yes there are still 12 names here, no it doesn't mean I'm actively looking to lim you yet. I have just removed the other half of the player list from my consideration one way or another, and haven't had those aha moments for any of these players yet. I'm on the verge of removing a few more names.

Spoiler: WtV List

Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
Frogsterking
The toad
Enchant
Bellaphant
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
PenguinPower

First off this was just 3 days and 100 pages ago HOW

Making an update though.

Spoiler: WtV List

Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
The toad
Enchant
Bellaphant
Klick
Cat Scratch Fever
PenguinPower

My vote is on Klick but recency bias from his posting has me reconsidering. If a name that you scumread is also on this list I am open for business.

Updating my willing to vote list again. Removed a few more people. I could realistically see myself removing a few more names, so I don't have to vote Mala. It just seems to be the only player I have left that others are willing to vote too. I tried Enchant and no one wants it. The only other people left people have even hinted wanting are Malcolm and Penguin.

Spoiler: WtV List

Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
RCEnigma
Enchant
Bellaphant
Cat Scratch Fever
PenguinPower

Only one on this list I would vote today is Penguin and It’s not my preference, when they’re even wolfier slots.

[Taly]

2.

doubly so trying to rethink current wagons outside of my own, even when i am a viable elimination

"johnny/mala/frogs"

I did start to doubt you were scum here, but you ended up with Mala and Frogs in your will-lim bucket anyway when I asked for it

3. i dont votepark onto nothing and intentionally let that perception accrue when i have people's judgment

This is what I don't get, and Nancy has said this too. If you're just busier IRL nowadays since the last time you played as scum, would you really be around in the thread more to like... manage perception and stuff?

Like I'm not sure if you're playing differently to your old scumgames here because you're town or if you're just too busy nowadays to play an effective scum game, if that makes sense.

As for the other stuff, I'm so tired right now; I can't verify your meta

the only problem with my slot is that this D1 is disgustingly long with 200+ pages with 26p and the strongest reads on me are from players who townread me or do not want to eliminate me this early that I have played with before nancy/johnny/pooky.

I mean, this does make me doubt my scumread somewhat, but the thing Nancy said hasn't been addressed by my hypothesis that you're just too busy now

and Johnny and Pooky haven't really expounded on why they think you're town tbh

This is probably annoying to respond to, so I'll just say the bolded is what I'm most interested in

i dont have a convincing answer, tbh. yeah, my activity affects my play. meta before 2022-

Taly

reaches so far.

I did start to doubt you were scum here, but you ended up with Mala and Frogs in your will-lim bucket anyway when I asked for it

@Taly: I should also say that I still think Frogs is town in spite (or even because of) his chaotic play, and I've lost confidence in Mala flipping scum based on how aggro she is right now

I haven't read anything. I probably won't be able to commit to this game until the weekend.

I claim being in a PT with another player though, so I should be good .

@Pooky: Was it? I feel like divining an alignment from this is like drawing water from a stone, but my brain is also the size of a cat's so idk

this is what I was worried about earlier today on

frogs/mala/taly

being T/T/T but everybody wants to consolidate somewhere and i never understood the

johnny

scumreads tbh.

[Lukewarm]

Let's kill frog!

[Rad]

Do you have any scum reads Taly?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

never understood the johnny scumreads tbh.

he feels like he's always present for the pagetops but he's not present to give like actual thoughts that feel like solving

[Dancing Puppets]

Please know it's done with love! I'm fulfilling a promise!

Spoiler: How Bone Trounces Lost Mafia: A Blueprint

So knowing what I know about the game now, these are easy choices. Anyway first off, we limmed someone 100 pages ago, letting the game get to page 250 is nonsense and this is my fanfiction. Either Ceph, Dunn, or Frogster, I'd have let one of them go by now. Since this is by the Professor's request, we'll say it was Frogster and he was my scum buddy. Well of course, there's no way I'd pass up on eliminating a scum buddy on day 1. I would have become a strong, but not the strongest voice on that train. I'd probably sit somewhere behind Luke as the second most townread player too. Anyway the night 1 kill is easy, DNA gets done dirty. Why you may ask? Because they with their post restriction, are an unknown. I would also kill anyone who got replaced over night, because again, I have my perfect endgame constructed already from the current players and don't want that changed. Matt already came in and ruined what probably would have been my preferred plan of letting one of my top townreads get eliminated. But that's okay, this is a heroic tale, and part of the hero's journey is struggle.

For my end game I'd have DP/Math there for sure as an easy pocket and potential mislim at the end (only need one of them to fill the niche). I would take some of my town reads too, I'd probably have to give up one of like Johnny, Ceph, Dunn to mislims at some point. Chances are I'd lose another scum buddy because of night action usage, ideally around Day 4 or 5, but I could adapt if we got there earlier. After DNA I'd probably kill off players who have me as like their 3rd or 4th scumread, if any exist at this point. I imagine by like Day 3 or 4 that could be come an issue. I'd be lucky if after Frog's scum flip someone still scum read me, because then they'd be an easy lim. So in this case that's the Professor gone Day 3 at the latest. I'd have one but not both masons killed, leave the other alive towards the end game. I only need 2 viable mislims in the end game. Maybe I'd keep around a secondary scum read like Bell or CSF or someone in that range. I also need to give my remaining scum buddies and the remaining townies one more viable mislim. Anyone who professes to use VCA or Meta is an absolute MUST for the end game imo, because by this point they will be questioning their meta reads on the players they left alive (why isn't Pooky dead, am I looking at the wrong scum game?) or some poor townie is going to look bad to a VCAer come Day 6/7. So there's a little leeway as to whom this person is. (Though if Pooky actually kept up on the reads grid I'd have to let him go via NK). But I'd definitely bring those types of players and their counterparts. Also gotta bring at least one, if not two, low post volume players. I imagine one of those low volume posters would be a scum buddy anyway, so a 1v1 between the two of them would also be a viable end game move. I also might NK people still fighting for the pagetops out of spite.

So there's my basic blueprint, in case you want to start framing me, scum team.

If I said I would bring you to the end game it doesn't mean I think you're a bad player, please don't be upset. It means I just think you'd fit well for what I'd try to accomplish. I think everyone is pretty great at mafia overall and plays to the best of their abilities always! I don't want to answer specific questions that might lead to hurt feelings because I suggested I would try to mislim you or other wise use your play for X reason.

Would absolutely hate to go though what I did in Airplanes again.

[T-Bone]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

TBone do you think Ceph is town or do you just want to wait longer to see if he starts town telling?

I think Ceph is town.

Can you elaborate on this read a bit?

I know Ceph's snark is throwing people off, but when he's not being snarky I think he's trying to solve the game. I don't have any specific posts in mind atm, I started townreading Ceph when the posts were in the 1200s

[Rad]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

TBone do you think Ceph is town or do you just want to wait longer to see if he starts town telling?

I think Ceph is town.

Can you elaborate on this read a bit?

I know Ceph's snark is throwing people off, but when he's not being snarky I think he's trying to solve the game. I don't have any specific posts in mind atm, I started townreading Ceph when the posts were in the 1200s

Cool thanks. I'll keep that in mind when I read through his ISO shortly.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If this game doesn't get to 4 digit page count can we really say we played

[Dancing Puppets]

I greatly dislike the now pattern of frog trying to pocket nancy

You want me dead and you still.make this statement? Similar to your progression on me and Math. you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth again.

i am not preflipping i am sorry if you expect me to but you will continue to be disappointed

You’re drooling at my death. My God, how anyone is tr you here, is a complete mystery to me.

[JohnnyFarrar]

When I ISOd Ceph 100 pages ago I came to the same conclusion

[ProfessorDrapion]

I greatly dislike the now pattern of frog trying to pocket nancy

You want me dead and you still.make this statement? Similar to your progression on me and Math. you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth again.

I mean.
I strongly agree with Cephrir’s opinion.

[Lukewarm]

Hey Jonny, do me a favor, and vote frog please and thank you

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Frog

[ProfessorDrapion]

When I get on my laptop I maybe able to explain more but my most confident wolf is Frog and it clears Taly and Enchant and I’m ready to cliff myself on that statement.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lukewarm might be the most effective town leader i've ever elected

[Cat Scratch Fever]

this is what I was worried about earlier today on frogs/mala/taly being T/T/T but everybody wants to consolidate somewhere and i never understood the johnny scumreads tbh.

My Johnny scumread is that he did 2 ISOs on Malcolm and Ceph, shaded Malcolm who looked townier out of that interaction, and then seemed to have lost a lot of wim

He could be town struggling to keep up, but idk that could easily come from scum too?

[T-Bone]

Like, I think he is clearly flippant about being scumread and being rung up on Day 1. I find that to be NAI. I don't play LSGs anymore because I kept getting voted out very early, and I am bitter about that to say the least. I understand bitterness when games aren't going your way.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I was about to shitpost ineffective but Johnny pedited me so I had to delete the "in" part

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like, I think he is clearly flippant about being scumread and being rung up on Day 1. I find that to be NAI. I don't play LSGs anymore because I kept getting voted out very early, and I am bitter about that to say the least. I understand bitterness when games aren't going your way.

we are not killing Cephrir before his wedding day in a game run by his husband.

Maybe we kill him after the wedding as a wedding present BUT THAT DAY IS NOT TODAY

[ProfessorDrapion]

Meta is trash

That's why meta is the best when you're scum!

TBone do you think Ceph is town or do you just want to wait longer to see if he starts town telling?

I think Ceph is town.

Can you elaborate on this read a bit?

I know Ceph's snark is throwing people off, but when he's not being snarky I think he's trying to solve the game. I don't have any specific posts in mind atm, I started townreading Ceph when the posts were in the 1200s

Cool thanks. I'll keep that in mind when I read through his ISO shortly.

It might just be me.
But I think this can be a 4 way scum theatre.
It may also be bias because that’s where my head is at for wolves and then this entire interaction is a thing.

[Dancing Puppets]

VOTE: lukewarm

Ceph might be better. He wants his cake and eat it. He pocketed Math while voting him and now he wants me dead while accusing you of pocketing me.

What’s wrong with that picture?

But if Luke is serious after everything he’s posted until this point. I don’t know what to think.

If you want to flip the wagon onto Ceph then you will lose TBone's support, who is an influential voice. The best strategy to get the wagon onto Ceph is to convince everyone to follow Roden who is the more active of the two mason's. Roden has familiarity with Ceph's scum game and FoSed Ceph at one point for flame baiting, which they still appear to be doing.

Ceph is a wolf because he keeps congradicting himself. Buddies Math and chains miselims and now wants me dead and also calls me a pocket. How is that ever a townie thought process?

[ProfessorDrapion]

@CSF if your wolf you can join too!