LOST (Game Over)

[Rad]

@MATH we were looking for a good wagon to start and basing it on t-bone's list so if it flips green we can blame t-bone

Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
RCEnigma
Enchant
Bellaphant
Cat Scratch Fever
PenguinPower

Anyone there you wanna join on?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

[Dunnstral]

I can't believe Save the Dragons played in Cephrir's game, saw somebody post 1000 times on day 1, and then decided that actually we don't need post limits this time either

[T-Bone]

@Math we are not, Rad is for the record.

[Lukewarm]

But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.

Are you trying to convince Ceph that he is scum?

I think that the rest of the thread has seen this arguement coming from you.

(I responded with my take and everything!)

But I somehow doubt that, regardless of his alignment, Ceph is ever going to say anything other then tell you that you are wrong, and this conversation can go on forever.

[Lukewarm]

But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.

Are you trying to convince Ceph that he is scum?

I think that the rest of the thread has seen this arguement coming from you.

(I responded with my take and everything!)

But I somehow doubt that, regardless of his alignment, Ceph is ever going to say anything other then tell you that you are wrong, and this conversation can go on forever.

[T-Bone]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

Finish how? Feels like a complete thought to me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like here's how I see a role cop role.

it is an excellent scum role because

(1) you can use it to find town power roles

(2) since this game is flipless, you can shoot the doctor at night after you find her and now you can claim doctor if you get run up

you can literally do this with any town power role.

It has tremendous benefit for a scum team to have a role cop in a flipless game because you're literally figuring out what you've killed so you can claim them later.

I have absolutely no idea what the town benefit of a role cop is.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

Finish how? Feels like a complete thought to me.

explain to me why it's plausible for town to have a town role cop in a flipless game.

finish the thought

what is plausible about it, what utility would it serve for the town.

[ProfessorDrapion]

We live in a world where frog is either:

Town, and bad at this game, and genuinely believes that a role cop claims would immediately stop his elimination

Scum, and bad at this game, and genuinely believes that a role cop claims would immediately stop his elimination

So Bell, I don't think asking why he didn't fake a different role is particularly relevant. Because he seemed to think it was plenty good enough for the job.

I'm sorry guys I can't live in a world where a player who wrote this post is town.

VOTE: Frogsterking

Luke if you're Town then.. I don't know. I think you probably have a lot of struggles. If you're scum then well played.

Ah Self Vote AtE. Interesting Play. an old mafia classic!

[T-Bone]

Let's break out some Rank Choice Voting.

Dank Choice...if you will

[Lukewarm]

You're moving up too

Yeah, that one was a real move.

Direct response from my desire to exist in this game day declining.

[Enchant]

like here's how I see a role cop role.

it is an excellent scum role because

(1) you can use it to find town power roles

(2) since this game is flipless, you can shoot the doctor at night after you find her and now you can claim doctor if you get run up

you can literally do this with any town power role.

It has tremendous benefit for a scum team to have a role cop in a flipless game because you're literally figuring out what you've killed so you can claim them later.

I have absolutely no idea what the town benefit of a role cop is.

Prevent mafia from claiming Doctor?

[T-Bone]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

Finish how? Feels like a complete thought to me.

explain to me why it's plausible for town to have a town role cop in a flipless game.

finish the thought

what is plausible about it, what utility would it serve for the town.

To reveal roles of the dead that are otherwise hidden.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't believe Save the Dragons played in Cephrir's game, saw somebody post 1000 times on day 1, and then decided that actually we don't need post limits this time either

he wanted to show his soon to be husband how it's done.

[T-Bone]

And also as a tool to counterclaim Mafia fakeclaims if they decide to.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

if you cop someone and they flip scum, it can help town determine what roles scum actually have for the sake of assessing balance

idk just spitballing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

Finish how? Feels like a complete thought to me.

explain to me why it's plausible for town to have a town role cop in a flipless game.

finish the thought

what is plausible about it, what utility would it serve for the town.

To reveal roles of the dead that are otherwise hidden.

rolecops cannot target dead people

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

if you cop someone and they flip scum, it can help town determine what roles scum actually have for the sake of assessing balance

idk just spitballing

no you have no idea how to assess balance off a single scum role even if you were to hit scum and THEN they get flipped

[T-Bone]

I don't know why you're stuck on this, this is so obvious Enchant deemed it worthy of a post

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

especially not in a 26 player large game

[T-Bone]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

Finish how? Feels like a complete thought to me.

explain to me why it's plausible for town to have a town role cop in a flipless game.

finish the thought

what is plausible about it, what utility would it serve for the town.

To reveal roles of the dead that are otherwise hidden.

rolecops cannot target dead people

You'd target them before they died and then reveal after the fact

[Dunnstral]

It's a well known phenomenon that the evil smileys can't be seen by townies.

[Rad]

Luke you read Prof that low really? He's just kind obvtowning it here imo, especially after reading his scum game.

Penguin is low enough on your list that we could go with that compared to t-bone's.

There have been a number of posts that made me feel like he was posting for the purpose of posting, and the way he has approached trying to tackle the whole scum team feels kinda non-genuine. Most of his reads come across that way to me. idk.

I also scum read Galron when he was here.

I am sold on him being scum, but I would not be surprised. --- And it is kind of the issue where there are just more people who have worked their way up my reads, kinda leaving him behind.

Ok yeah, thanks for the explanation. I read galron town and PD's short meta that I could dive has me convinced. I hate how he's pushing cases on entire scum teams over individual scum reads but I'm reading that as some extreme arrogance. He kinda has the same arrogance in his prev game's mafia PT that I was considering similar. He sounds completely different in tone from both his prev scum game and his scum pt though (which should be his real voice) so I'm a little concerned about just a straight meta change attempt here making all this invalid.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Luke's updated preference for where the day will end:

How many votes each player would need for me to join their wagon

0 - Frogsterking
1 - Klick
2 - BlueBloodedToffee
2 - Taly

2 - ProfessorDrapion

3 - Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
4 - Best Bird PenguinPower
4 - RCEnigma The toad
6 - Bellaphant
6 - Enchant
7 - Malakittens
7 - Cephrir
7 - JohnnyFarrar
7 - Rad
8 - Lukewarm
8 - MalcolmTucker
8 - Mathblade
9 - Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
9 - T-Bone
10 -PookyTheMagicalBear
11 - Cat Scratch Fever humaneatingmonkey
13 - Off the Hook
13 - Bell
13 - Dunnstral
23 - Roden
23 - Dwlee99

GET OUTTA MY FACE!