LOST (Game Over)

[ProfessorDrapion]

(That a joke btw)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And also as a tool to counterclaim Mafia fakeclaims if they decide to.

mafia can just claim the roles they actually have - rolecop is literally useless against trueclaiming

[Cephrir]

rolecop's town utility is to check claims for lies, or i guess maybe find an obvscum role like ninja

it's not particularly good

[Dancing Puppets]

But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.

Are you trying to convince Ceph that he is scum?

I think that the rest of the thread has seen this arguement coming from you.

(I responded with my take and everything!)

But I somehow doubt that, regardless of his alignment, Ceph is ever going to say anything other then tell you that you are wrong, and this conversation can go on forever.

No, I’m just making it abundantly clear that I see right through what he’s doing.

[Lukewarm]

Some people like Luke and Pooky (they can correct me) think it's a role scum is more likely to have anyway.

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

i think both of these things are true

hope that helps

I also think both of those things are true lol

[Cephrir]

But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.

Are you trying to convince Ceph that he is scum?

I think that the rest of the thread has seen this arguement coming from you.

(I responded with my take and everything!)

But I somehow doubt that, regardless of his alignment, Ceph is ever going to say anything other then tell you that you are wrong, and this conversation can go on forever.

No, I’m just making it abundantly clear that I see right through what he’s doing.

WE KNOW

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You'd target them before they died and then reveal after the fact

how do you psychically know in advance who is going to die?

[T-Bone]

Nevermind that I make games all the time and sometimes I give roles that most often go to scum to town just to subvert expectations.

Or maybe there's a character that really made sense as a rolecop, and the mid decided that way independent of alignment.

Like I can literally do this all night wanna keep going?

You don't have a point.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

rolecop's town utility is to check claims for lies, or i guess maybe find an obvscum role like ninja

it's not particularly good

there is no evidence there is a ninja in the game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nevermind that I make games all the time and sometimes I give roles that most often go to scum to town just to subvert expectations.

Or maybe there's a character that really made sense as a rolecop, and the mid decided that way independent of alignment.

Like I can literally do this all night wanna keep going?

You don't have a point.

your excuses sound fake af

[MathBlade]

@MATH we were looking for a good wagon to start and basing it on t-bone's list so if it flips green we can blame t-bone

Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
RCEnigma
Enchant
Bellaphant
Cat Scratch Fever
PenguinPower

Anyone there you wanna join on?

I want to slow the game down and read properly.

The 314th wagon is not exactly what I am up to

[Cephrir]

pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q

[Lukewarm]

But that isn’t what you said. You said you were “drooling” at the prospect of my death, then I think maybe in the very next post accused Frog of pocketing me.

Are you trying to convince Ceph that he is scum?

I think that the rest of the thread has seen this arguement coming from you.

(I responded with my take and everything!)

But I somehow doubt that, regardless of his alignment, Ceph is ever going to say anything other then tell you that you are wrong, and this conversation can go on forever.

No, I’m just making it abundantly clear that I see right through what he’s doing.

My two cents:

I see why you called him out for it. It was perfectly reasonable to question it.
I also see what Ceph said in response, and it seemed like a perfectly reasonable response.

(That does not make him town, but it does make the argument seem kinda pointless in my eyes. )

But I keep seeing it brought up on so many pages.

[Cephrir]

pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q

pd* obviously

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i don't think it even makes sense for town to have a role cop

i don't see what utility it would serve if any

the theory you are claiming is not that a rolecop can exist in a large theme or in a game of mafia in general.

but that specifically

the flipless nature of this large theme, makes it make sense that a rolecop exists on the town side

I am asking you why specifically the flipless nature of this game makes role cop make sense

I've already explained why it makes a lot of sense as a scum role for adding utility to scum side.

[T-Bone]

I've got more!

To find the mafia ninja!

To find the mafia strongman!

To find the town princess so we don't eliminate them!

To make Pooky think the role confirms scum!

[ProfessorDrapion]

rolecop's town utility is to check claims for lies, or i guess maybe find an obvscum role like ninja

it's not particularly good

there is no evidence there is a ninja in the game

That fact he claimed Ninja makes me more sus of him.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I will hammer Frogster. I have said this before

I still think he will flip town

But the silver lining in that scenario is that at least hopefully Drapion will stop being annoying

[MathBlade]

Bell and I think it's a role that is plausible for town since roles are not flipped.

finish the thought

why is it plausible for town to have a role cop because roles are not flipped

Finish how? Feels like a complete thought to me.

explain to me why it's plausible for town to have a town role cop in a flipless game.

finish the thought

what is plausible about it, what utility would it serve for the town.

I think it has more scum utility but could have some town power. Without knowing the setup even if we assume Frogger town then we don’t know if he’s town or antitown. He’s probably scum but I just want to think it through.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Like no honestly he could be ninja.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've got more!

To find the mafia ninja!

To find the mafia strongman!

To find the town princess so we don't eliminate them!

To make Pooky think the role confirms scum!

none of these have anything to do with the flipless nature of the game which is the key contention in your statement

[Lukewarm]

pooky on a scale from 1-10 how beneficial to town wincon would it be for this day to end asap

tbone, luke, csf & dp if you happen to be around, same q

Probably an 11 for my continued enjoyment of the game. Desire to actually be here is plummeting fast.

Probably like, a 7 for actual town win con? This day has reached critical mass to where no one at any point is going to want to look back at it when we have flips, and the longer it gets the more info will be ignored.

[T-Bone]

I've already explained that the flipless nature of the game makes it plausible as a tool to potentially reveal roles after the fact. It's a simple explanation that I do not understand why you don't get it or keep harping on it.

[T-Bone]

It's okay to not agree with me, your point is taken.

[MathBlade]

I think all the suggestions about what benefit or not a rolecop could do and how scum could react are really antitown and should stop.

The short of it is either you believe Frog or not.