LOST (Game Over)

[Rad]

Frog you screamed scum Luke as loud as you could. Why aren't you mentioning that?

Because you didn't read 6238

Yeah, I did, how about you stop gaslighting?

[Lukewarm]

There is a lot of math and scenarios on why KILLING YOURSELF is better then killing no one.

One example is that It affects how many protective have to land before the town is bought a miselim.

Like, right now a doctor saving one (1) player = an extra town miselim. If we no kill, then a doctor would have to save two (2) players to = an extra town miselim.

But also, info for looking back.

[Bell]

Fine if no vote isn't an option I'll vote taly. If it is an option, I want anyone who chooses to know it's an option.

You have a choice. Gladiators mechanically just limit which votes are registered toward two players. But no voting is an option.
I'm voting because my opinion is that asserting your power as town to eliminate another player that you do not know is town day one is the more solid play in general than not voting someone out.

[Bell]

Frog you screamed scum Luke as loud as you could. Why aren't you mentioning that?

Because you didn't read 6238

Yeah, I did, how about you stop gaslighting?

Reword, gaslighting is a charged word.

[Dancing Puppets]

@Luke that’s your opinion, I disagree. Pooky’s right but if we absolutely have to do this, I’m saving Taly but if we don’t, I’m voting no gladiate.

[Frogsterking]

Frog you screamed scum Luke as loud as you could. Why aren't you mentioning that?

Because you didn't read 6238

Yeah, I did, how about you stop gaslighting?

Nooooo my ego defense

[Dunnstral]

Why we can't kill both....

Chaotic neutral

[Rad]

Frog you screamed scum Luke as loud as you could. Why aren't you mentioning that?

Because you didn't read 6238

Yeah, I did, how about you stop gaslighting?

Reword, gaslighting is a charged word.

How about he stops suggesting I didn't understand what happened when I was there and saw exactly what happened even if he wants to suggest something else happened?

[Dancing Puppets]

@Frog, Pooky very clearly can’t be scum because he wouldn’t be this deflated if he were rn, because if Pooky was actually scum, he would be on cloud nine over this gladiate.

[Frogsterking]

Bell I fucked up though I was trying not to granade throw in this game.

[Bell]

Bell I fucked up though I was trying not to granade throw in this game.

Scorpion, frog.
Same old story.

[Frogsterking]

@Frog, Pooky very clearly can’t be scum because he wouldn’t be this deflated if he were rn, because if Pooky was actually scum, he would be on cloud nine over this gladiate.

It's possible. What about MathBlade?

[Lukewarm]

@Luke that’s your opinion, I disagree. Pooky’s right but if we absolutely have to do this, I’m saving Taly but if we don’t, I’m voting no gladiate.

I was sharing facts, and then giving my opinion on those facts:

It is not an opinion that the mafia scum wiki currently says that self voting is

better statistically for the town win rate

then allowing a no elim to happen.

It is also not an opinion on how it affects the power level of a doctor save. Right now 1 buys us a miselim. And after a no elim, it would require two. Meaning that a no elim hampers the power of town PRs. (there is some reverse math on why it would equally hamper a vig)

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It is my opinion that, GIVEN those statistics I think that we should always kill here.

And I think that Rad should know that no killing does more then JUST save taly or ceph. It also, denies town information, and lowers some PRs power.

[Lukewarm]

Actually, Nancy.

Why are you focused on the No Elim possibility instead of trying to get Ceph voted out?

[MalcolmTucker]

Looks like I have missed about 40 pages again.

[MalcolmTucker]

Anything important happen or still going in circles before we eliminate someone we were probably going to eliminate 2,000 posts ago?

[Rad]

Fine if no vote isn't an option I'll vote taly. If it is an option, I want anyone who chooses to know it's an option.

You have a choice. Gladiators mechanically just limit which votes are registered toward two players. But no voting is an option.
I'm voting because my opinion is that asserting your power as town to eliminate another player that you do not know is town day one is the more solid play in general than not voting someone out.

Seems logical and I'll consider it tomorrow for sure.

Same with Luke's comments and tbone commented earlier which I'll look at again.

I appreciate the direction. I don't know how this should exactly play out and I appreciate input. I believe the 1v1 changes things but will consider all input. Also there are plenty in the game to just avoid my choice here so if that happens, it is what it is

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh Mal will this be fun for you

[Bell]

Theres been 50 pages since I last checked and I read none of it. Anything important?

All you need to know is that Ceph Gladiated Taly.

Vote Ceph or Taly.

Thanks.

[Lukewarm]

Malcolm, we had a gladiate

@Klick

oh hang on i forgot to read my role PM

Dear Taly, You don't know who I am but I know who you are and I know what you done.

All votes are reset. Players may only vote for Taly or Cephrir.

NV: Everyone

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

And remember, Ceph is hated

So, Taly needs 14 and ceph needs 13 to kill

[Bell]

Fine if no vote isn't an option I'll vote taly. If it is an option, I want anyone who chooses to know it's an option.

You have a choice. Gladiators mechanically just limit which votes are registered toward two players. But no voting is an option.
I'm voting because my opinion is that asserting your power as town to eliminate another player that you do not know is town day one is the more solid play in general than not voting someone out.

Seems logical and I'll consider it tomorrow for sure.

Same with Luke's comments and tbone commented earlier which I'll look at again.

I appreciate the direction. I don't know how this should exactly play out and I appreciate input. I believe the 1v1 changes things but will consider all input. Also there are plenty in the game to just avoid my choice here so if that happens, it is what it is

Yes. Np.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Oh Mal will this be fun for you

Johnny, plz vote someone!

[Bell]

You can also choose to abstain from voting if you want Malcolm, while I think Klick knew, it's possible you don't know that.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'm about to go to bed

Hopefully the Europeans will end this day before I wake up tomorrow

[Lukewarm]

Also, Taly claimed she is a neighbor with no other roles.

Ceph claimed that he is a hated 1-shot gladiator.

So both claims are already on the table.