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Post Post #6750 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:12 pm

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I can tell, Nancy. I just don't really know the core of your scum game.

I see the idiosyncrasies, but I'm not sure if any of them being present should cause me to town bin you. It feels like it should be really easy to read you by just looking for certain behaviors or posts and going from there. You should be one of the more reliably easy players to read on site.
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Post Post #6751 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:14 pm

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In post 6676, Lukewarm wrote:There is a lot of math and scenarios on why KILLING YOURSELF is better then killing no one.

One example is that It affects how many protective have to land before the town is bought a miselim.

Like, right now a doctor saving one (1) player = an extra town miselim. If we no kill, then a doctor would have to save two (2) players to = an extra town miselim.

But also, info for looking back.
I agree with this and would rather selfvote than allow no lim to happen
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In post 6745, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6735, Dancing Puppets wrote:Wasn’t I your preferred elim over the other 3 options and who tf even came up with those 4 options? That’s why I was certain thar it had to have been initiated by scum.

I would like to save Taly but if Pooky’s right, then no elim would be best. I don’t know what to think anymore other than I’m extremely pissed one of my strongest trs is probably getting gladiated. :/
If you asked me who I was trying to kill today, you were not the answer.

When I was asked to choose between you, taly, and 2 of my town reads. You kinda got there by poe (I was not wanting Taly to get gladiated before I got a chance to talk to Bell, and Ceph did not appear willing to wait)

I don't think that that should eliminate me from being interested in asking you questions when things come up.
I don’t understand your point? If I think someone wants me dead, I consider it pretty damn pointless to meaningfully engage with them but if you’re saying that’s not actually the case, then I’m thoroughly confused by this.
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Post Post #6753 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:18 pm

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In post 6749, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6735, Dancing Puppets wrote:I would like to save Taly but if Pooky’s right, then no elim would be best. I don’t know what to think anymore other than I’m extremely pissed one of my strongest trs is probably getting gladiated. :/
That being said, can you walk me through why from your POV, voting no elim would be better then voting out Ceph?

Like, I understand you town read Taly, and don't want her to die. I am just not sure why you are focusing on No Elim instead of a Ceph elim, and I am trying to understand what you are thinking.
Because of what Pooky said. If Ceph is actually town and Pooky seems to believe that they’re both spewed town, then it’s anti wincon for either to die.
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Post Post #6754 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:18 pm

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In post 6753, Dancing Puppets wrote:Because of what Pooky said. If Ceph is actually town and Pooky seems to believe that they’re both spewed town, then it’s anti wincon for either to die.
Ah. There it is.

I did not realize that you were now thinking that Ceph was town
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Post Post #6755 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:19 pm

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Thanks for answering :)
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Post Post #6756 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:20 pm

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In post 6752, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6745, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6735, Dancing Puppets wrote:Wasn’t I your preferred elim over the other 3 options and who tf even came up with those 4 options? That’s why I was certain thar it had to have been initiated by scum.

I would like to save Taly but if Pooky’s right, then no elim would be best. I don’t know what to think anymore other than I’m extremely pissed one of my strongest trs is probably getting gladiated. :/
If you asked me who I was trying to kill today, you were not the answer.

When I was asked to choose between you, taly, and 2 of my town reads. You kinda got there by poe (I was not wanting Taly to get gladiated before I got a chance to talk to Bell, and Ceph did not appear willing to wait)

I don't think that that should eliminate me from being interested in asking you questions when things come up.
I don’t understand your point? If I think someone wants me dead, I consider it pretty damn pointless to meaningfully engage with them but if you’re saying that’s not actually the case, then I’m thoroughly confused by this.
Is this an angle that scum takes?
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Post Post #6757 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:22 pm

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nancy is easier to read than you and she is never scum here
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Post Post #6758 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:22 pm

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In post 6756, Bell wrote:
In post 6752, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6745, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6735, Dancing Puppets wrote:Wasn’t I your preferred elim over the other 3 options and who tf even came up with those 4 options? That’s why I was certain thar it had to have been initiated by scum.

I would like to save Taly but if Pooky’s right, then no elim would be best. I don’t know what to think anymore other than I’m extremely pissed one of my strongest trs is probably getting gladiated. :/
If you asked me who I was trying to kill today, you were not the answer.

When I was asked to choose between you, taly, and 2 of my town reads. You kinda got there by poe (I was not wanting Taly to get gladiated before I got a chance to talk to Bell, and Ceph did not appear willing to wait)

I don't think that that should eliminate me from being interested in asking you questions when things come up.
I don’t understand your point? If I think someone wants me dead, I consider it pretty damn pointless to meaningfully engage with them but if you’re saying that’s not actually the case, then I’m thoroughly confused by this.
Is this an angle that scum takes?
Idk, but I kinda feel like scum Nancy would have not just backed down from her long standing scum read on Ceph, when Ceph was in the middle of a gladiate
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Post Post #6759 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:22 pm

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In post 6750, Bell wrote:I can tell, Nancy. I just don't really know the core of your scum game.

I see the idiosyncrasies, but I'm not sure if any of them being present should cause me to town bin you. It feels like it should be really easy to read you by just looking for certain behaviors or posts and going from there. You should be one of the more reliably easy players to read on site.
I think I really am pretty readable though. Like I can’t really explain too much without actually trust telling but there are definitely tells. Pooky sees them but not immediately but he obviously does now and Taly does as well. There’s not a lot more I can say about that that wouldn’t get me into trouble here.
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Post Post #6760 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:24 pm

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Probably, I basically. town binned her 3 times already for her posts. I just don't like my reasons for it. They feel wrong. Or at least vulnerable to being manipulated.
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Post Post #6761 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:25 pm

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Fwiw if I were to make the decision alone I would have picked mathblade
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Post Post #6762 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:25 pm

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In post 6755, Lukewarm wrote:Thanks for answering :)
Sure. Pooky’s extremely smart. We won our tm game mainly because of him so if I hard tr him - which I obviously am in this game, I’m obviously going to take seriously anything he says.
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Post Post #6763 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:28 pm

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In post 6756, Bell wrote:
In post 6752, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6745, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6735, Dancing Puppets wrote:Wasn’t I your preferred elim over the other 3 options and who tf even came up with those 4 options? That’s why I was certain thar it had to have been initiated by scum.

I would like to save Taly but if Pooky’s right, then no elim would be best. I don’t know what to think anymore other than I’m extremely pissed one of my strongest trs is probably getting gladiated. :/
If you asked me who I was trying to kill today, you were not the answer.

When I was asked to choose between you, taly, and 2 of my town reads. You kinda got there by poe (I was not wanting Taly to get gladiated before I got a chance to talk to Bell, and Ceph did not appear willing to wait)

I don't think that that should eliminate me from being interested in asking you questions when things come up.
I don’t understand your point? If I think someone wants me dead, I consider it pretty damn pointless to meaningfully engage with them but if you’re saying that’s not actually the case, then I’m thoroughly confused by this.
Is this an angle that scum takes?
???

I’m town this game but I suppose if I were scum I probably wouldn’t engage regardless. I don’t really think too much what I’d do as scum when I’m not.
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Post Post #6764 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:29 pm

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Arguing for a No Elim here makes little sense coming from scum Nancy, so I think that Nancy is probably just town.

@Nancy, have you talked to Titus yet about the fact that the gladiate has happened?
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Post Post #6765 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:30 pm

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In post 6746, Bell wrote:
In post 6744, Frogsterking wrote:I'm sorry Taly got gladiated, that's bullshit.
You genuinely don't seem like someone who is sympathetic towards others. So this post has an agenda.

I suspect Nancy has good reads and they are telling the truth this game (town.) I feel like they're discouraged/angry because they found Taly as town and now it seems like Taly will be eliminated. I don't want Nancy to quit because I think it will be harder without their townhunting.
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Post Post #6766 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:33 pm

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In post 6748, Bell wrote:
In post 6746, Bell wrote:
In post 6744, Frogsterking wrote:I'm sorry Taly got gladiated, that's bullshit.
You genuinely don't seem like someone who is sympathetic towards others. So this post has an agenda.
This was a dumb post from me. lol. Here you are trying to deep dive ego and projecting your own challenges toward others and trying to apply it to them to explain their behavior.
It's better to just say you have edges and leave it at that.
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Post Post #6767 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:35 pm

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In post 6763, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6756, Bell wrote:
In post 6752, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6745, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6735, Dancing Puppets wrote:Wasn’t I your preferred elim over the other 3 options and who tf even came up with those 4 options? That’s why I was certain thar it had to have been initiated by scum.

I would like to save Taly but if Pooky’s right, then no elim would be best. I don’t know what to think anymore other than I’m extremely pissed one of my strongest trs is probably getting gladiated. :/
If you asked me who I was trying to kill today, you were not the answer.

When I was asked to choose between you, taly, and 2 of my town reads. You kinda got there by poe (I was not wanting Taly to get gladiated before I got a chance to talk to Bell, and Ceph did not appear willing to wait)

I don't think that that should eliminate me from being interested in asking you questions when things come up.
I don’t understand your point? If I think someone wants me dead, I consider it pretty damn pointless to meaningfully engage with them but if you’re saying that’s not actually the case, then I’m thoroughly confused by this.
Is this an angle that scum takes?
???

I’m town this game but I suppose if I were scum I probably wouldn’t engage regardless. I don’t really think too much what I’d do as scum when I’m not.
He was using a negative to imply that you are town in that post.

"Is this an angle that scum takes?"
"No"
"Then the person taking this angle is town, right?"
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Post Post #6768 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:35 pm

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In post 6761, Cephrir wrote:Fwiw if I were to make the decision alone I would have picked mathblade
So why didn’t you? I wouldn’t be feeling so demoralized by losing one of my strongest trs.
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Post Post #6769 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:37 pm

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[quote="In post 6382, Cephrir"]luke
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He had his town reads vote.

And me, tbone, and CSF all leaned town on Math.
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Post Post #6770 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:37 pm

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Being vulnerable isn't bad, but during a game of mafia I wouldn't recommend it. People are trying to deceive, manipulate, etc. Even Town. Think of it as laser tag, once you're assigned a team and the music plays it's best to think of it as game on until the music stops.
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Post Post #6771 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:37 pm

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In post 6769, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 6382, Cephrir wrote: luke
DP=taly, johnny=
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math johnny taly dp
He had his town reads vote.

And me, tbone, and CSF all leaned town on Math.
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Post Post #6772 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:38 pm

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In post 6764, Lukewarm wrote:Arguing for a No Elim here makes little sense coming from scum Nancy, so I think that Nancy is probably just town.

@Nancy, have you talked to Titus yet about the fact that the gladiate has happened?
I think I just told her I hate the game now or something like it.
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Post Post #6773 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:39 pm

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In post 6772, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 6764, Lukewarm wrote:Arguing for a No Elim here makes little sense coming from scum Nancy, so I think that Nancy is probably just town.

@Nancy, have you talked to Titus yet about the fact that the gladiate has happened?
I think I just told her I hate the game now or something like it.
Has she responded?

Kinda interested in her thoughts too, but have not seen her in thread since it happened.
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Post Post #6774 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:41 pm

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In post 6765, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 6746, Bell wrote:
In post 6744, Frogsterking wrote:I'm sorry Taly got gladiated, that's bullshit.
You genuinely don't seem like someone who is sympathetic towards others. So this post has an agenda.

I suspect Nancy has good reads and they are telling the truth this game (town.) I feel like they're discouraged/angry because they found Taly as town and now it seems like Taly will be eliminated. I don't want Nancy to quit because I think it will be harder without their townhunting.
It’s something I obviously need to get over but I take it very personally when my hard trs get miselimed because I obviously failed to get town to listen to me and if they won’t listen to me, then why should I even be bothering?
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