LOST (Game Over)

[Bell]

Bell, I thought you scum read taly.

What changed ?

I got shook. But if they can't cancel they can't cancel.

VOTE: Taly

dude, im going to be very honest, you saying that youve encouraged me to give perspective in this PT is absolutely not my experience, especially given the fact that ive even mentioned my struggling to keep up with the game in our PT.

i dont know what you were solving and looking for with me, but i cant say you took me with anything less than tons of caution and suspicion.

pedit

oh, then what was it? please enlighten me because this entire scenario appears to benefit you largely, coming from one of the people who voted you.

Cephrir's initial vote was before the vote count was reset, so it didn't count. I let him know.

so what do you think about this gladiate?

I verbatim encouraged you to give your perspective in the game thread

[Taly]

why clear the person who INITIATED the gladiate?

its not about alignment, its about that person's confidence in eliminating their opponent.

i have been a consistently likely mislim the past 48 hrs and

ceph

has maybe received 1 vote from

nancy

out of tilt

[Taly]

Bell, I thought you scum read taly.

What changed ?

I got shook. But if they can't cancel they can't cancel.

VOTE: Taly

dude, im going to be very honest, you saying that youve encouraged me to give perspective in this PT is absolutely not my experience, especially given the fact that ive even mentioned my struggling to keep up with the game in our PT.

i dont know what you were solving and looking for with me, but i cant say you took me with anything less than tons of caution and suspicion.

pedit

oh, then what was it? please enlighten me because this entire scenario appears to benefit you largely, coming from one of the people who voted you.

Cephrir's initial vote was before the vote count was reset, so it didn't count. I let him know.

so what do you think about this gladiate?

I verbatim encouraged you to give your perspective in the game thread

what wasnt enough, man?

[Taly]

why clear the person who INITIATED the gladiate?

its not about alignment, its about that person's confidence in eliminating their opponent.

i have been a consistently likely mislim the past 48 hrs and

ceph

has maybe received 1 vote from

nancy

out of tilt

fuck, if i were scum with

Ceph's

id have likely taken a shot at myself here.

im not going to wait if i think i have a guarantee.

[Dunnstral]

so what do you think about this gladiate?

I was voting you before the gladiate, so the target appeals to me.

Beyond that, I believe it was a move made by town because the town was not coming to a conclusion.

[Taly]

so what do you think about this gladiate?

I was voting you before the gladiate, so the target appeals to me.

Beyond that, I believe it was a move made by town because the town was not coming to a conclusion.

and where is this necessarily devoid of scum intent? ive seen some wild shit, especially in role madness games kind of like this one/

just look at Anything Upick, mafia won off OP roles or roles people would think are towny.

[Bell]

I don't disagree that yeah, Cephrir's gladiate was designed to kill Taly because they did literally focus group the most scum read player
It just so happens that Cephrir is also just that sort of timid guy. So it fits too.

[Dunnstral]

What is the scum intent?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Also CSF said they think I am lying about being in a game with them.
It’s wrong, I have been.
I’m not entirely sure why they would even think that.

The fact it all started when Pooky locked in CSF!Town makes me think CSF is wolf that doesn’t want to lose their town credit.


Like it wouldn’t really change much it would just mean that they can be wolf because Pooky believes they are town.

I think it’s more likely CSF is pocketing Pooky then Pooky being wolves with CSF but meh.

[Taly]

I don't disagree that yeah, Cephrir's gladiate was designed to kill Taly because they did literally focus group the most scum read player
It just so happens that Cephrir is also just that sort of timid guy. So it fits too.

so what about my personality this game suggest scum? because that's how you're excusing

Cephrir's

behavior here.

What is the scum intent?

Please read my posts.

I genuinely believe I am a mislim to take heat off of 1, likelier 2 scumbuddies within

mala/frogs

.

[ProfessorDrapion]

why clear the person who INITIATED the gladiate?

its not about alignment, its about that person's confidence in eliminating their opponent.

i have been a consistently likely mislim the past 48 hrs and

ceph

has maybe received 1 vote from

nancy

out of tilt

fuck, if i were scum with

Ceph's

id have likely taken a shot at myself here.

im not going to wait if i think i have a guarantee.

Facts.
There was absolutely zero reason for Ceph to use it in the first place.

He was saving it for someone and he was wolf reading Frog.


There is nothing Townie at all about using it.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Now if he used it and had the ability to make it ONLY Math and Frog then I’d call him Lock Town.
But he didn’t and I don’t think he can.

[Bell]

I don't disagree that yeah, Cephrir's gladiate was designed to kill Taly because they did literally focus group the most scum read player
It just so happens that Cephrir is also just that sort of timid guy. So it fits too.

so what about my personality this game suggest scum? because that's how you're excusing

Cephrir's

behavior here.

What is the scum intent?

Please read my posts.

I genuinely believe I am a mislim to take heat off of 1, likelier 2 scumbuddies within

mala/frogs

.

You got weeded for activity, not cause of your personality. You replaced into this game.

[Taly]

I don't disagree that yeah, Cephrir's gladiate was designed to kill Taly because they did literally focus group the most scum read player
It just so happens that Cephrir is also just that sort of timid guy. So it fits too.

so what about my personality this game suggest scum? because that's how you're excusing

Cephrir's

behavior here.

What is the scum intent?

Please read my posts.

I genuinely believe I am a mislim to take heat off of 1, likelier 2 scumbuddies within

mala/frogs

.

You got weeded for activity, not cause of your personality. You replaced into this game.

In what world is this an objective assessment of my play?

That's an excuse that serves a scum narrative and it has been repeated the MOMENT I replaced in.

[Taly]

holy shit what is happening with this game

[Dunnstral]

Listen, I'm not saying that it is a good thing you were gladiates, or that I would have done the same thing. I've gone through whole games without using my gladiate/other vote altering powers as town (Yggdrasil and Tarot come to mind). Frankly speaking, I think that the players who are going off about frogger and mathblade post gladiate are either whining or trying to avoid discussing the current votes for this day phase. Which is you and Cephrir, and yeah, I think you're more likely to be mafia here.

[ProfessorDrapion]

holy shit what is happening with this game

Scum Motivation Everywhere.


Scum is so desperate to get a day 1 ML they don’t care if a couple of them put themselves in the process.

[Taly]

THIS IS MY ENERGY RIGHT NOW.



(not the social context of discrimination [ily

<3

, but the ENERGY OF BITING MY FOES

THIS BEAK CRAVES BLOOD.)

[ProfessorDrapion]

out themselves*

[Bell]

In what world did I suggest your personality had to do with you being scum?
In what world am I *excusing* Cephrir's behavior. I'm pointing out my perspective and one possible narrative. It fits for cephrir to do this as either alignment. It's not a distinctly scum-motivated move. You're right that it's false that it's risky and that some players have failed on the logic train. But you're arguing with me about their reads. Which is inexplicable. Well it actually makes perfect sense since you're just engaging now and I'm around, but like. It's not something I can answer. Go interrogate them. I don't usually engage with every bad statement a player makes.

[Taly]

Listen, I'm not saying that it is a good thing you were gladiates, or that I would have done the same thing. I've gone through whole games without using my gladiate/other vote altering powers as town (Yggdrasil and Tarot come to mind). Frankly speaking, I think that the players who are going off about frogger and mathblade post gladiate are either whining or trying to avoid discussing the current votes for this day phase. Which is you and Cephrir, and yeah, I think you're more likely to be mafia here.

So

Ceph V Taly

is the compromise?

Cool, so the gamestate really said

"this isn't town's decision"

by your logic here.

[Dunnstral]

Please read my posts. :facepalm:

I genuinely believe I am a mislim to take heat off of 1, likelier 2 scumbuddies within

mala/frogs

.

I will keep this in mind

[Taly]

In what world did I suggest your personality had to do with you being scum?
In what world am I *excusing* Cephrir's behavior. I'm pointing out my perspective and one possible narrative. It fits for cephrir to do this as either alignment. It's not a distinctly scum-motivated move. You're right that it's false that it's risky and that some players have failed on the logic train. But you're arguing with me about their reads. Which is inexplicable. Well it actually makes perfect sense since you're just engaging now and I'm around, but like. It's not something I can answer. Go interrogate them. I don't usually engage with every bad statement a player makes.

What are you trying to accomplish here? All that I am conveying is that I don't think I was a given a chance here whether or not you believed I did.

[Taly]

it feels moot. :/ ive put more time into this game this morning than i needed to for my productivity.

ive outlined my issues with the gamestate, any case against me, and walked through my entire thought process through the majority of it this game in some form or another.

i dont know what else people are asking for.



im just going to keep the vibes up and share music and reply to people.

[Taly]

give me