LOST (Game Over)

[Bell]

It’s a personal idiosyncrasy, I usually have reasoning for why every player might be scum or town.
It’s just my way to weigh narratives and decide which is the most plausible.

[Bell]

that's why your accuracy rate is so bad bell

Say this to LLD. I double bear dare you.

[Dancing Puppets]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

T-Bone wants to kill Taly very badly, so that’s reason enough imo.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

id be ecstatic if we flip red from this gladiate i dunno what ur talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that's why your accuracy rate is so bad bell

Say this to LLD. I double bear dare you.

her accuracy rate is pretty good

[Taly]

All your reads were basically pinned with a “I’ll get back to this”

BBT, Lukewarm, etc.

Have I not expanded on these reads?

Why is my townflip more detrimental than Ceph's hypothetical townflip?

Because you have emotional defenders I think are town and ceph has non-emotional defenders I think are town. Green taly flip causes retaliation likely to fall back onto town and green Ceph flip causes nothing to happen because Ceph started us down this path to begin with.

I doubt there's more than 1 scum arguing about this loudly right now, if any, and a green taly flip makes everyone arguing hate each other more. the taly defenders hate the vocal ceph defenders and the town ceph defenders are just going to feel attacked and frustrated for it.

I think even a red taly flip right now is probably terrible for town, because again, I think the most vocal people right now are all likely town and red taly flip would become pure chaos where we just elim town back to back to back. Red ceph flip probably moves us towards a solve. Red taly flip can wait until later when we have actual cases against taly.

Ok... but I'd like a more concrete opinion on your reads rather than how you think the gamestate will react.

Do you realistically think this is TvT or SvT?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

T-Bone wants to kill Taly very badly, so that’s reason enough imo.

T-Bone already hedged and said he didn't actually want to kill Taly he just townread everyone else more

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Say this to LLD. I double bear dare you.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=88043

she used IC right away

nailed the entire scum team on day one and had winning POE shoved down our throats.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

T-Bone wants to kill Taly very badly, so that’s reason enough imo.

T-Bone already hedged and said he didn't actually want to kill Taly he just townread everyone else more

I think T-bone can be scum for trying to keep neighbors alive, which feels like a cover for evading TA's detection more than anything, since the stated reason feels kind of weak --- "possibly has some importance to the setup"

I still think Ceph is town

[Rad]

Do you realistically think this is TvT or SvT?

TvT most likely

[Bell]

that's why your accuracy rate is so bad bell

Say this to LLD. I double bear dare you.

her accuracy rate is pretty good

I can’t tell if you missed the joke or not Pooky. But the cases are scummy saying was a joke.

[Bell]

I acknowledge that my accuracy is middling to poor, not for lack of trying. But I’ve said this before.

[Dancing Puppets]

I think that scum will likely argue we flip the survivor of this gladiate, which is what worries me the most. I think if we no lim we can just forget this day happened and try to find scum democratically tomorrow.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can’t tell if you missed the joke or not Pooky. But the cases are scummy saying was a joke.

I took it as you downplaying the importance of casing on D1 which infuriates me because I am a massive tryhard sometimes.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Professor Drap, can you please look through your games, and find the one that you lost to scum!CSF.

I know you don't think that it is relevant, but it feel very relevant to me. Multiple people have said that this game is outside of CSF's scum range, but you apparently have an example of a game to prove that that is not the case.

I would like to look at your counter example.

I don’t wanna out my main.


I also want to point out that in a game I’ve played on another site people kept trying to base things on meta which isn’t accurate.

I looked last night, and I believe I know what game they're talking about. I'm also confident that if I were to link the game, it would actually reinforce everyone's belief that I'm town

I don't think Drapion was deliberately being dishonest here. I feel pretty strongly that they're town in fact, and I understand why they want to remain anonymous

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I acknowledge that my accuracy is middling to poor, not for lack of trying. But I’ve said this before.

sorry for putting you down I'm just a bad person when i get tilted.

[RCEnigma]

Wow can't believe I got Luke mixed up with Bell what a scumclaim.

Why are you being so defensive? This is like the second post now and no one is even accusing you of anything?

tbone is probly just mafia having fun trolling

Can agree with this.

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

Please no

[Dancing Puppets]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

Please no

@Luke why would you want CSF to vote to elim a slot she doesn’t sr?

[RCEnigma]

I’m back to Rad being town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

Please no

@Luke why would you want CSF to vote to elim a slot she doesn’t sr?

Luke believes that it is better for the town to eliminate a slot that is town than to no lim on day one.

there is nothing you can say to him to change his mind on this.

pls do not keep spamming at him because he will not respond to you and it will just clog the thread.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@Luke why would you want CSF to vote to elim a slot she doesn’t sr?

I'm not scumreading Taly, but I'm not also super confident that they're town. I strongly townread you and Pooky and hope you both are correct given your experiences playing with them.

should Taly flip scum down the road, I'm not trusting a single thing you guys say this game <3

[Lukewarm]

VOTE: no lim

I've kind of lost confidence in Taly scum, and I saw some ppl I trust to be town doing this

Please no

@Luke why would you want CSF to vote to elim a slot she doesn’t sr?

I value an elimination happening. Period

I understand that you disagree. But that is something I value.

I will vote to eliminate a slot that I don't sr (ceph) to ensure an elimination at the end of the day, and I think other people should too.

I have outlined why. I have referenced stats, and also outlined the negative effect on power roles.

[Lukewarm]

there is nothing you can say to him to change his mind on this.

pls do not keep spamming at him because he will not respond to you and it will just clog the thread.

Half true. Lol

[RCEnigma]

If Taly flipped scum I’d tunnel Pooky through the entire earth for doing this. Even though I think they’re town.