LOST (Game Over)

[RCEnigma]

Was the timing of cephrir's gladiator coincided with saving frogs from being eliminated? Cause if so they could be partners

It effectively saved Frogster, Mala, Dunn, Johnny (I think those four had the most votes)

good to get this cleared up, I had asked who the wagons were earlier
btw was ceph a wagon at the time? I don't believe he was and my gears are turning on a certain thought

~GE

The context is, frog freaked at being run up and claimed rolecop. Mala wagon was competing on and off. Johnny wagon was growing. Ceph was not being wagoned at the time.

[Dancing Puppets]

Is this worth discussing before a flip.

pre-emptive YES, but what is the topic of discussion?

~GE

I’m saying that Frog wouldn’t bus Taly whether they’re were votes on Ceph or not but it’s meaningless since Taly is off the charts bleeding obvtown here and I don’t agree with flipping Taly to flip T-Bone, which is what Pooky is advocating. I’m not willing to take that risk.

[Taly]

Was the timing of cephrir's gladiator coincided with saving frogs from being eliminated? Cause if so they could be partners

It effectively saved Frogster, Mala, Dunn, Johnny (I think those four had the most votes)

good to get this cleared up, I had asked who the wagons were earlier
btw was ceph a wagon at the time? I don't believe he was and my gears are turning on a certain thought

~GE

The context is, frog freaked at being run up and claimed rolecop. Mala wagon was competing on and off. Johnny wagon was growing. Ceph was not being wagoned at the time.

And I was the only wagon with a stable level of pressure.

[RCEnigma]

Yeah I mean, Johnny was steadily growing but slower than it needed to be to save your slot Taly, probably.

[Dancing Puppets]

i am willing to vote for taly as long as we get to yeet tbone tommorrow if taly flips town

if taly flips scum you guys can do whatever the fuck ya'all want i dont give a shit

No. Stick to your guns. It's a fallacy to use my flip to confbias a tunnel.

I want to clarify that I do think it's more helpful to eliminate here but not to compromise on a slot that's widely townread.

I still don't feel like I've received sufficient reply from

Ceph's

POV on this gladiate nor do people refute my reasoning of scum motive.

I'm healthier right now than what I was the morning. I might be able to ISO

Ceph

soon.

My death isn't optimal.

+1

I agree. I consider flipping you to be beyond idiotic.

[Taly]

No, I don't accept this.

I'm not going to be the mislim to validate town's grudges especially when I find fault with my opponent.

What do I need to do

right now

to help town make the most of whatever happens today?

[Lukewarm]

The frog wagon was stalling out with like 6 votes out of 14.

That does not seem feel like a "I need to scramble to save frog" moment

[JohnnyFarrar]

i am willing to vote for taly as long as we get to yeet tbone tommorrow if taly flips town

if taly flips scum you guys can do whatever the fuck ya'all want i dont give a shit

No. Stick to your guns. It's a fallacy to use my flip to confbias a tunnel.

I want to clarify that I do think it's more helpful to eliminate here but not to compromise on a slot that's widely townread.

I still don't feel like I've received sufficient reply from

Ceph's

POV on this gladiate nor do people refute my reasoning of scum motive.

I'm healthier right now than what I was the morning. I might be able to ISO

Ceph

soon.

My death isn't optimal.

Taly is so town here yall

[Dancing Puppets]

The very fact that only obvtown players are trying to stop Taly wagon should speak volumes imo. No one scummy is defending Taly.

[Dancing Puppets]

i am willing to vote for taly as long as we get to yeet tbone tommorrow if taly flips town

if taly flips scum you guys can do whatever the fuck ya'all want i dont give a shit

No. Stick to your guns. It's a fallacy to use my flip to confbias a tunnel.

I want to clarify that I do think it's more helpful to eliminate here but not to compromise on a slot that's widely townread.

I still don't feel like I've received sufficient reply from

Ceph's

POV on this gladiate nor do people refute my reasoning of scum motive.

I'm healthier right now than what I was the morning. I might be able to ISO

Ceph

soon.

My death isn't optimal.

Taly is so town here yall

+1

I know, the fact that Taly is even in this position disgusts me.

[Lukewarm]

Every argument I see for not killing taly makes me want to pull my hair out.

It feels like literally every person who has said she is town, had said "she is town because she is obviously town" and since I don't think she is "clearly obv town to the point that only an idiotic person would consider her elimination" it means nothing to me.

She is town because she is town is a non-arguement.

Can someone actually explain why she is town this game?

Also, can someone explain why scum!ceph does his gladiate here? (And if you say "to save frog" please provide a list of 14 people who were open to killing frog at the time, thanks!)

[T-Bone]

It borders on having knowledge because you know everyone's alignment for me...but I'm not sure if that's a sincere interpretation or more of a petty one.

[Taly]

The frog wagon was stalling out with like 6 votes out of 14.

That does not seem feel like a "I need to scramble to save frog" moment

Except

Frog

had already been a popular wagon earlier in this day phase.

You can't tell me there was a consistent push-decline reaction on suspecting that slot.

My original trepidation in pushing

Frogs

was because I thought that could be scum led wagon, but this is further rebuked in light of a gladiate when

Frogs

became a viable option again.

Also. This doesn't even account for

Mala

,

Johnny

, or even

Dunn

who could've been scum that was pressured. Yes, the latter two or less likely but everyone was voting constantly AND calling for consolidation. Scum couldn't have predicted how the ending wagons would be without role interference.

And to suggest I'm scum in this scenario makes 0 sense, because I didn't actively pounce on another wagon and even still doubled down on my

Johnny

townread despite being a popular wagon.

Regardless of what you think of

Ceph's

move, I'm not scum here.

[Dancing Puppets]

The frog wagon was stalling out with like 6 votes out of 14.

That does not seem feel like a "I need to scramble to save frog" moment

My concern without reading is all the options were bad for scum, like D1 in the Not Quite Normal Multiball game. I'm taking a backseat due to lack of reading and exhaustion but I feel my concern is valid. I definitely understand Nancy not wanting a Taly lim here.

~Titus

[Taly]

Every argument I see for not killing taly makes me want to pull my hair out.

It feels like literally every person who has said she is town, had said "she is town because she is obviously town" and since I don't think she is "clearly obv town to the point that only an idiotic person would consider her elimination" it means nothing to me.

She is town because she is town is a non-arguement.

Can someone actually explain why she is town this game?

Also, can someone explain why scum!ceph does his gladiate here? (And if you say "to save frog" please provide a list of 14 people who were open to killing frog at the time, thanks!)

What about the arguments that I'm making in my defense? I'm not telling you to blindly townread me and I don't think it's impossible that someone defending me is informed that I am town.

I'm going to be succinct: I think

Ceph

-scum gladiated to protect a buddy and solidify a mislim. That's all. I've digressed earlier this morning and I'm not certain of any change to this mindset upon my conversation with him thus far.

[MathBlade]

Every argument I see for not killing taly makes me want to pull my hair out.

It feels like literally every person who has said she is town, had said "she is town because she is obviously town" and since I don't think she is "clearly obv town to the point that only an idiotic person would consider her elimination" it means nothing to me.

She is town because she is town is a non-arguement.

Can someone actually explain why she is town this game?

Also, can someone explain why scum!ceph does his gladiate here? (And if you say "to save frog" please provide a list of 14 people who were open to killing frog at the time, thanks!)

I think this is an illogical argument

14 people able to coordinate in a game this size is a stretch. Frog being a high enough wagon could have been de facto.

Some players are arguing because of this defactoness Ceph is scum trying to save Frog

Having to read 14 when fatigue is likely setting in is a thing

I think Taly may also be day fatigue too.

Like no I haven’t read other arguments but that’s the one from earlier.

[T-Bone]

If I make a post and spoiler it for Luke only can I get away with making it without another multi page blow up?

[Off The Hook]

Every argument I see for not killing taly makes me want to pull my hair out.

It feels like literally every person who has said she is town, had said "she is town because she is obviously town" and since I don't think she is "clearly obv town to the point that only an idiotic person would consider her elimination" it means nothing to me.

She is town because she is town is a non-arguement.

Can someone actually explain why she is town this game?

Also, can someone explain why scum!ceph does his gladiate here? (And if you say "to save frog" please provide a list of 14 people who were open to killing frog at the time, thanks!)

her efforts early on do not resemble what I think scum coming into a game of this size would muster.

~GE

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'll prolly still read it tbh tbone

[Bell]

I’ve had to stop myself from challenging every incorrect or questionable statement and argument. But it genuinely won’t move the game forward nor make anyone happy. So I think it best just not to.

[ProfessorDrapion]

The frog wagon was stalling out with like 6 votes out of 14.

That does not seem feel like a "I need to scramble to save frog" moment

Math wagon was building if you cared to pay attention.
Also your V/A aren’t you?

[MathBlade]

For example, there’s a lot of loud players who want me dead.

That makes my wagon inherently seem more popular than it is.

We have two choices and neither of which are a good choice as using Luke’s argument there doesn’t seem to be 14 that want Taly either or Taly would have been dead while I nap

[Lukewarm]

Also your V/A aren’t you?

I have very limited self control.

Thanks for pointing it our for me <3

[T-Bone]

I’ve had to stop myself from challenging every incorrect or questionable statement and argument. But it genuinely won’t move the game forward nor make anyone happy. So I think it best just not to.

Okay I think you understand what I'm thinking. I'll let it go for now. Nevermind Luke.

[MathBlade]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.31

10 Taly (Lukewarm, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Roden, Bell)
6 No-lim (Off the Hook, Mathblade, Rad, PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, Cat Scratch Fever,
3 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Malakittens, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

This reads like scum dogpile on Taly to make her inevitable of the choices