LOST (Game Over)

[JohnnyFarrar]

S n i p e

Pew pew

[Dancing Puppets]

For example, there’s a lot of loud players who want me dead.

That makes my wagon inherently seem more popular than it is.

We have two choices and neither of which are a good choice as using Luke’s argument there doesn’t seem to be 14 that want Taly either or Taly would have been dead while I nap

Are you in favor of no lim or Cephrir lim then?

~Titus

[Dancing Puppets]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.31

10 Taly (Lukewarm, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Roden, Bell)
6 No-lim (Off the Hook, Mathblade, Rad, PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, Cat Scratch Fever,
3 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Malakittens, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

This reads like scum dogpile on Taly to make her inevitable of the choices

Compare that to the VCs please. My brain is fogged, otherwise I would.

~Titus

[MathBlade]

For example, there’s a lot of loud players who want me dead.

That makes my wagon inherently seem more popular than it is.

We have two choices and neither of which are a good choice as using Luke’s argument there doesn’t seem to be 14 that want Taly either or Taly would have been dead while I nap

Are you in favor of no lim or Cephrir lim then?

~Titus

I am in favor of letting things develop.

I can see some ways Ceph is town.

I have been coughing and falling asleep a lot.

I would like to see someone actually case Ceph or Taly scum more that “strategy” or “scum Ceph never does this”

We should be talking reads and relationships to get as much out of the day as possible

[Bell]

there are 7 people not voting.

[MathBlade]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

[RCEnigma]

I’ve had to stop myself from challenging every incorrect or questionable statement and argument. But it genuinely won’t move the game forward nor make anyone happy. So I think it best just not to.

[Dancing Puppets]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

I think I tried to address this. If Taly were actually scum here, that would obviously not be happening,

[RCEnigma]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

Then vote ceph.

[RCEnigma]

If you DO NOT think ceph is scum, vote Taly.
If you DO NOT think Taly is scum, vote Ceph.

[Dancing Puppets]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

Then vote ceph.

This VC happened before we knew No Lim was a possibility.

[MathBlade]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

Then vote ceph.

See I am not sure that’s right either.

If it’s TvT then scum might want Taly dead for her reads
If it’s TvS then scum want Taly because she is town.

I would rather people talk reads and why Taly
If you’re on Taly to prevent no elim so does Ceph

Why Taly?

If there is a good argument I will join either wagon

I just kinda hope we would talk

[Taly]

Hey, here's a good exercise:
I demand everybody townreading me to give rationale. Meta alone will not cut it. I think a strong scumteam would be on all sides of

Ceph V Taly

and I want to Jumpstart on that dialogue.

At the very least, it will give a coherent response to the defense, since people have stated that they do not see the argument of me!town led by others.

[MathBlade]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

Then vote ceph.

This VC happened before we knew No Lim was a possibility.

Irrelevant the wagons in between didn’t respond to that fact

[Bell]

Perhaps I am being too demanding when I ask for a full scum case on Taly from whoever is advocating for Taly to get killed here.

I will lower the bar for those who want to kill Taly.

Give me your single most compelling reason to believe Taly is mafia here.

They hedged in a PT.
Toog implied their role was more inherently townie than it really was in the game thread.
They stated they wanted less noise so wanted to talk in a PT.
They replaced into a game and then went inactive. When usually people who replace into games have the time to replace into them.
Cognitive load(I’m aware this game is exceptional, but if I unthinkingly apply it, it works).

There I made up a case I don’t even believe In. Because of a town case that I feel is stronger that can be summed up in “they’re being very emotional and I don’t think it’s fake because reasons 1-9.

Even you initially were upset not because Taly was going to be killed, but because it derailed your frogster wagon and his reaction spewed that the gladiate was tvt. An assumptions on top of an assumption.

[Off The Hook]

10 Taly (Lukewarm, T-Bone, Dunnstral,

Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Roden, Bell

)
6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)

changes:
CSF off
MB off
Rad off
Cephrir on
Frog on
Klick on
malcolm on
RCE on
Roden on
Bell on

everyone who left went to no yeet and everyone who went on came from no vote
bolded names are people MB is saying scum are in
removing Roden cuz mason that leaves Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Bell
of those, 2 are people I legit think have a shot of being scum at this exact minute (Frog and Bell)
Cephrir I lean town on
the others I don't have strong feelings on

~GE

[Dancing Puppets]

If you DO NOT think ceph is scum, vote Taly.
If you DO NOT think Taly is scum, vote Ceph.

What if you think neither scum? Yeah I would 100% vote Ceph > Taly but the more sensible option is to no lim.

[MathBlade]

Perhaps I am being too demanding when I ask for a full scum case on Taly from whoever is advocating for Taly to get killed here.

I will lower the bar for those who want to kill Taly.

Give me your single most compelling reason to believe Taly is mafia here.

They hedged in a PT.
Toog implied their role was more inherently townie than it really was in the game thread.
They stated they wanted less noise so wanted to talk in a PT.
They replaced into a game and then went inactive. When usually people who replace into games have the time to replace into them.
Cognitive load(I’m aware this game is exceptional, but if I unthinkingly apply it, it works).

There I made up a case I don’t even believe In. Because of a town case that I feel is stronger that can be summed up in “they’re being very emotional and I don’t think it’s fake because reasons 1-9.

Even you initially were upset not because Taly was going to be killed, but because it derailed your frogster wagon and his reaction spewed that the gladiate was tvt. An assumptions on top of an assumption.

You don’t believe in this case why should I?

[RCEnigma]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

Then vote ceph.

See I am not sure that’s right either.

If it’s TvT then scum might want Taly dead for her reads
If it’s TvS then scum want Taly because she is town.

I would rather people talk reads and why Taly
If you’re on Taly to prevent no elim so does Ceph

Why Taly?

If there is a good argument I will join either wagon

I just kinda hope we would talk

I townread ceph more and no limming is bullshit.

Suddenly everyone needs a lock tight case to pick 1 of only 2 logical options.

[Dancing Puppets]

10 Taly (Lukewarm, T-Bone, Dunnstral,

Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Roden, Bell

)
6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)

changes:
CSF off
MB off
Rad off
Cephrir on
Frog on
Klick on
malcolm on
RCE on
Roden on
Bell on

everyone who left went to no yeet and everyone who went on came from no vote
bolded names are people MB is saying scum are in
removing Roden cuz mason that leaves Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Bell
of those, 2 are people I legit think have a shot of being scum at this exact minute (Frog and Bell)
Cephrir I lean town on
the others I don't have strong feelings on

~GE

Gamma, I am reading this multiple times and not following. Can you rephrase? Sorry. I appreciate this.

~Titus

[Bell]

I believed some of that at the time though.

[MathBlade]

If you DO NOT think ceph is scum, vote Taly.
If you DO NOT think Taly is scum, vote Ceph.

What if you think neither scum? Yeah I would 100% vote Ceph > Taly but the more sensible option is to no lim.

Then the arguments will straighten that out

It’s also possible scum are bussing if they think Ceph is impossible

We should force people to make content they can be held accountable to

[RCEnigma]

If you DO NOT think ceph is scum, vote Taly.
If you DO NOT think Taly is scum, vote Ceph.

What if you think neither scum? Yeah I would 100% vote Ceph > Taly but the more sensible option is to no lim.

I’ve already said I don’t think either are scum. You don’t want to vote Taly because you townread them and I’m on the other end. But I’m averse to a no elim just to save 1 person in my maybe town pool.

[MathBlade]

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.30

6 Taly (Lukewarm, Cat Scratch Fever, T-Bone, Dunnstral, Mathblade, Rad)
3 Cephrir (PookyTheMagicalBear, Dancing Puppets, ProfessorDrapion)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Taly, JohnnyFarrar, Off the Hook, RCEnigma, MalcolmTucker, Cephrir, Malakittens, Bell, Klick, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Roden, Dwlee99, Best Bird, Frogsterking)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
I think Best Bird is V/LA too
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

Major dogpile on Taly

No one questions why.

If it’s the right decision that should be answered before hammer

Then vote ceph.

See I am not sure that’s right either.

If it’s TvT then scum might want Taly dead for her reads
If it’s TvS then scum want Taly because she is town.

I would rather people talk reads and why Taly
If you’re on Taly to prevent no elim so does Ceph

Why Taly?

If there is a good argument I will join either wagon

I just kinda hope we would talk

I townread ceph more and no limming is bullshit.

Suddenly everyone needs a lock tight case to pick 1 of only 2 logical options.

Why do you townread Ceph more?

[Bell]

Well math blade I feel like you should lead by example.