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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:38 am

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In post 2029, Datisi wrote:i was originally planning to blast freedom because confirmed non-vt

but i think i recall pooky making a mafia traitor + 3 townies hood before, plus i did some Research and i thought freedom was town

so i just went for the next person i thought was scum

in retrospect, it obviously would've been better if i'd saved it but lole
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:38 am

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alexcellent, read the game

and also claim
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:39 am

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In post 2021, Datisi wrote:
In post 2014, Alexcellent wrote:Actually yeah, fuck it, probably is for the best rather than risking it on MyLo/LyLo

I'm VT
well shit

i can confirm that alex is vanilla (idk if he's a town one)

i was planning on claiming a guilty and seeing what he claims, but also i just woke up so rip

we doing the massclaim?
Oh

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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:41 am

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slay

johnny, results?
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:45 am

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Lol I forgot Corwin was bulletproof as well, yikes
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:49 am

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In post 2074, Datisi wrote:i realized i don't have a good grasp on the game and reads and i wanted to wagon people to fix it
......

ok
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:52 am

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devil and datisi start with the same letter..
EVIL CANADIAN HATES BAJA BLAST

this clown has a gtkas unfortunately
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:52 am

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In post 2080, scamper wrote:
In post 2074, Datisi wrote:i realized i don't have a good grasp on the game and reads and i wanted to wagon people to fix it
......

ok
literally isnt this so bs

its an easy excuse
EVIL CANADIAN HATES BAJA BLAST

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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:54 am

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In post 2080, scamper wrote:
In post 2074, Datisi wrote:i realized i don't have a good grasp on the game and reads and i wanted to wagon people to fix it
......

ok
people do nothing

if people have 5 votes on them

people can't do nothing anymore
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:55 am

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unless you're bellaphant in which case not only can you do nothing, you can replace out when you're at y-1 when you're an easily confirmable town role and it would take you approximately 5 seconds to type that and submit it, i guess?
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:56 am

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Datisi - one shot novice complex vigilante
Ausuka - ascetic miller even night mailman
Alexcellent - vanilla town, corroborated as vanilla by Datisi
JohnnyFarrar- simple combined doctor voyeur
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Freedom - vanilla neighbour
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a traffic analyst in a neighborhood game
a friendly neighbour
two heavily nerfed vigs
a heavily nerfed doctor which can't even protect most of the game, never mind any PRs
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:57 am

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ngl I think Ausuka accidentally spat fire with the “his role and Bella’s are town + scum counterparts”
I feel like his role would be designed to get a false clear from Voyeur via mailman action
Also think Ascetic makes sense to make it so the complex vig has someone scum it’d always work on given it’ll never kill the traitor
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:58 am

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Just the OP, OF COURSE, mastina is primary reviewer
She consistently passes the most wild BS setups
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:59 am

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Just checked*
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:59 am

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honestly do any of the pr claims even need to be scum here... I guess three confirmables and a traffic analyst is pretty heavy?

Pedit: How is mailman a false clear, that's like fruit vendor levels of NAI
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:01 am

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In post 2085, Ausuka wrote:a traffic analyst in a neighborhood game
also don't forget that the traffic analyst is simple, so like half the chance his checks fail too

in theory, this is three confirmable town power roles (two vigs + friendly neighbour) plus additional clears from the ta

the issue being that all the roles are so gated, the game is swingy as utter shit

and in an average run, at least some of the complex/simple roles are gonna fail

so i might even say this is whatever, especially if scum is loaded, which they might as well be
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:03 am

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I’ve read enough review PTs/post-game balance autopsies to pick up the balancers view any non-killing action by a scum as a “clear” to a follower/voyeur
(Well actually I just remember that logic from one particular game but I HAVE seen the design philosophy elsewhere)
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:03 am

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VOTE: gamma

meh

someone convince me it's not gamma/marci i guess
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:05 am

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actually why did i clear johnny again

would scum claim vt there first? don't see why not necessarily

can scum have a goon? probably, this is a pooky game
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:06 am

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alex*, not johnny
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:07 am

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In post 2092, Datisi wrote:VOTE: gamma

meh

someone convince me it's not gamma/marci i guess
How about the fact that leaves 2 fucking VTs when typically in my exp the minimum tends to range out at 4
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:07 am

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yeah town power is like. heavily in that 3 players can be confirmed and Roden can confirmed the vts. And then literally nobody got confirmed in reality lmao

Also why would that ever even be considered a clear in a multitasking game that makes no sense
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:08 am

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In post 2095, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2092, Datisi wrote:VOTE: gamma

meh

someone convince me it's not gamma/marci i guess
How about the fact that leaves 2 fucking VTs when typically in my exp the minimum tends to range out at 4
Turn on your fucking brain asshole
i have seen 13p games with 2 vt's.

stop acting like a piece of shit, thanks.
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:08 am

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Wait Crescent flipped VT
Still, 3 VTs is below the 4 VT threshold I believe exists
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:09 am

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Alex + scamper + crescent is 3

Power wise I think I'd be ok with a 3 VT game considering the negative utility and Freedom being a vanilla neighbour

The simple roles do give me some pause but like

Idk the minds of the nrg reviewers
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