LOST (Game Over)

[ProfessorDrapion]

I kinda want to lim Johnny (I scumread that slot, and Cephrir +1'd my read there, which makes me feel better about it) or MathBlade (

Cephrir's best posts were when he was pushing Math imo

)

but ngl BBT wagon sounds enticing too

This can be distancing, why do

you

specifically wolf read MathBlade?

[MathBlade]

I am analyzing things.

I just don’t start assuming the question.

Information ans analysis are equal.

My point is you can’t assume one way or another

I know I am town

I know because people think I suck I don’t get wagoned unless I am a threat

I didn’t have firm reads so what was I doing

I was unifying town to talk

Therefore I was wagoned for that reason

[Bell]

Let’s just skip to the wagon disperse part and have actual productive conversations about BBT and/or other possible scum slots.

Sure, why do you find them wolfy?

My number one rule of good scum is when town is miselimming themselves don’t fuck it up.

So that means we need to figure out who was quiet as the yellers are mostly flipped and green.

"We don't know who the scum are so we don't know how they were feeling" -Mathblade.
"The scum team are quiet because all of the loud people are dead (Luke, Bell, Pooky, Nancy are not loud apparently??) - Also mathblade.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I'm always down for making johnny walk the plank

I don't feel it, Bella or Blue sounds better, if we for math it should be after one of them flip IMO, or today.

[MathBlade]

Yes, you have precisely located how the scum team is probably feeling.
The next step:
Who was feeling that way?

*Stares directly at math*

??

We don’t know how the scum team is feeling as we don’t know who they are.

As I said we couldn’t get wagons going yesterday.

People were pushing their own little theories and not talking

I was wagoned because I tried to make people talk.

I was wagoned Corwin wasn’t.

Reason I was a threat to scum

You just did IOA. Except the part where you said " I was wagoned because the scum feared me and my ability to get people to work together. They needed to break cohesion therefore I was pushed."
But your main push yesterday was me which you stated as primarily done not because you personaly thought I was scum but because they did, you were basically acting as a proxy and didn't point the finger at anybody on your own.
Except for today whee you voted BBT for the following case: "I'm sheeping town. They aren't very active" putting you again in the blameless position.

Furthermore it’s not “blameless”

It’s a good point for discussion

If it’s logically sound it’s blameless by definition?

I still take accountability for my push

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think you're town Math sheesh.

Elaborate.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Okay those quotes together CSF posted don't look great.

I haven't been thinking they have been looking that great all game, not sure why they are being town read so much by Pooky.

NGL I still feel you can be in a team with CSF.

[MathBlade]

Let’s just skip to the wagon disperse part and have actual productive conversations about BBT and/or other possible scum slots.

Sure, why do you find them wolfy?

My number one rule of good scum is when town is miselimming themselves don’t fuck it up.

So that means we need to figure out who was quiet as the yellers are mostly flipped and green.

"We don't know who the scum are so we don't know how they were feeling" -Mathblade.
"The scum team are quiet because all of the loud people are dead (Luke, Bell, Pooky, Nancy are not loud apparently??) - Also mathblade.

Correct we don’t know who they are so we don’t know what they are feeling as that is individualistic

But we can know general things

As time goes on those general things become specific

The players who were loud were being antitown (Ceph and Frog especially) so they pinged me as scum

Now knowing they’re town I adjust

[ProfessorDrapion]

Okay those quotes together CSF posted don't look great.

Why?

It’s just the same repeated Corwin wasn’t active

This is just the same repeated recycled bullshit to avoid talking BBT

Because what you said isn't consistent.

.....
But that is what CSF said.

Math - Bone - Cat

Wolves?

[Bell]

I am analyzing things.

I just don’t start assuming the question.

Information ans analysis are equal.

My point is you can’t assume one way or another

I know I am town

I know because people think I suck I don’t get wagoned unless I am a threat

I didn’t have firm reads so what was I doing

I was unifying town to talk

Therefore I was wagoned for that reason

"If people think I suck, they won't wagon me"
"But I was wagoned therefore I didn't suck and was on the right track. "
The people who wagoned me were: " "
"The scum team thinks I suck, therefore when I was right they thought I would be convincing or be able to turn the game around showing they don't think I suck"
"People think I suck, but they wouldn't go for a miselim on me unless I was right because: ______(free miselims are too good for the scum team this game)?
"I think X and Y are the most suspicious pushers of my wagon"

[MathBlade]

I am analyzing things.

I just don’t start assuming the question.

Information ans analysis are equal.

My point is you can’t assume one way or another

I know I am town

I know because people think I suck I don’t get wagoned unless I am a threat

I didn’t have firm reads so what was I doing

I was unifying town to talk

Therefore I was wagoned for that reason

"If people think I suck, they won't wagon me"
"But I was wagoned therefore I didn't suck and was on the right track. "
The people who wagoned me were: " "
"The scum team thinks I suck, therefore when I was right they thought I would be convincing or be able to turn the game around showing they don't think I suck"
"People think I suck, but they wouldn't go for a miselim on me unless I was right because: ______(free miselims are too good for the scum team this game)?
"I think X and Y are the most suspicious pushers of my wagon"

More that I could turn the game to where people actually talked with each other
Rather than that shit show

But if general sus is kept on me I can’t do that

I don’t get the rest of your post

[MathBlade]

Okay those quotes together CSF posted don't look great.

Why?

It’s just the same repeated Corwin wasn’t active

This is just the same repeated recycled bullshit to avoid talking BBT

Because what you said isn't consistent.

.....
But that is what CSF said.

Math - Bone - Cat

Wolves?

??

Like what?

The thread is using recycled bullshit

I am very consistent

The entire argument is Corwin wasn’t active

And “I don’t understand Math”

Which surprise who does?

When I am intelligible I am more often scum

[ProfessorDrapion]

Sees evidence Math is town

Conclusion “But Math could be scum”

Me *blinks*

No evidence was once provided (assuming your referring to my post)

You see Math, the way your wagon was pushed away and the way CSF reacted and how that Taly wagon started still has me uneasy.

[MathBlade]

I am going to try to go to bed again and hope people actually talk reads

Rather than repeat the same silliness of d1 and expect different results

Doing the same thing and expecting different results has a definition…let’s call it unintelligence

[ProfessorDrapion]

Math, you gave so little of a shit that you voted Taly, vote for a no lim and then voted for Cephirir all while saying you didn't really give a shit and had run out of sppons.

So WAIT?
Potential Comfortable Wolf?

The dude had the nerve to say "evidence that he's town" lol.

[MathBlade]

Sees evidence Math is town

Conclusion “But Math could be scum”

Me *blinks*

No evidence was once provided (assuming your referring to my post)

You see Math, the way your wagon was pushed away and the way CSF reacted and how that Taly wagon started still has me uneasy.

The wagon was pushed away was either town realizing it or scum not wanting the heat

That simple.

[Bell]

If people think you suck, they will also think over people think you suck and they don't think people will listen to you.
If they don't think people will listen to you, then there's no reason to kill you.
Except scum need miselims and you were a perfectly serviceable one. But your logic is that scum only attack you when you're on the right track.
Or in this case trying to reduce town friction. But they could just be pushing you because you're convenient.

You're saying that you won't point the finger at particular people who wagoned you but that you'll make the general statement that people are scum.
I will point out that this has the angle of not having to deal with omgus.

[MathBlade]

Math, you gave so little of a shit that you voted Taly, vote for a no lim and then voted for Cephirir all while saying you didn't really give a shit and had run out of sppons.

So WAIT?
Potential Comfortable Wolf?

The dude had the nerve to say "evidence that he's town" lol.

??

[ProfessorDrapion]

To be frank if you don't have some revelation after Dunn, Frog, and Ceph flipped town.
I really doubt that flipping BBT will help you solve the game.

I mean I get Math's point.
Following dead townie's reads is a good play.

But that's all the case really has RN, they are null for me and not a wolf read so unless I get more of a case on them I'm Prob ably not voting there, probably.

I think BBT is pretty scummy

Anyone not posting in the shitshow yesterday deserves a look considering flips

That's actually a fair point.





Speaking of which, what yo thoughts on Bella's absents during that shitshow and the read on the slot?

[Mislim Bait]

Hello I haven't played for 2 years so I'm a bit rusty and old doge.
So I hope you guys won't mislim me that would be horrible.

I havent read anything yet.
Is there anything I need to know before I start

[Bell]

Hi Mislim bait so you joined the game without reading the game first?

[ProfessorDrapion]

Let’s just skip to the wagon disperse part and have actual productive conversations about BBT and/or other possible scum slots.

Sure, why do you find them wolfy?

My number one rule of good scum is when town is miselimming themselves don’t fuck it up.

So that means we need to figure out who was quiet as the yellers are mostly flipped and green.

I keep reading that last part and was like "I think that was said wrong"
But I get your point, basically what I said where the wolves didn't care to do much during the frog push and gladiate because it was just all town hits and mafia was lying low and we need to look for whom is laying low, which is why I'm bringing up Bella.

[MathBlade]

If people think you suck, they will also think over people think you suck and they don't think people will listen to you.
If they don't think people will listen to you, then there's no reason to kill you.
Except scum need miselims and you were a perfectly serviceable one. But your logic is that scum only attack you when you're on the right track.
Or in this case trying to reduce town friction. But they could just be pushing you because you're convenient.

You're saying that you won't point the finger at particular people who wagoned you but that you'll make the general statement that people are scum.
I will point out that this has the angle of not having to deal with omgus.

Scum do need miselims but scum don’t push me for it unless I am being protown

Scum don’t push me for convenience ever

That’s like never a thing. I make scum’s life hard.

I don’t know who of the push on me was scum

I just know it was likely scum motivated (or just Ceph/Frog who hated the idea of working with me but doubt that)

I can know something is scum motivated without The Who.

Sort of like how a detective can come up on a crime scene and know something is odd without knowing the murderer

[Mislim Bait]

Hi Mislim bait so you joined the game without reading the game first?

I sure did and I got town.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I kinda want to lim Johnny (I scumread that slot, and Cephrir +1'd my read there, which makes me feel better about it) or MathBlade (

Cephrir's best posts were when he was pushing Math imo

)

but ngl BBT wagon sounds enticing too

This can be distancing, why do

you

specifically wolf read MathBlade?

I've just quoted some posts in spoilers at Math that elaborate a bit

I also don't think he's been providing that many reads

The BBT scumread is the first read where I get the sense he actually feels anything about it