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Post Post #8200 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:50 pm

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Who were you talking about in respt to em earlier, puppets?
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Post Post #8201 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:52 pm

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In post 8198, Bellaphant wrote:I don't understand your last section - do you believe the post restriction? Do you not think it's weird that it hasn't been penalised? I find it weird that no one thought it was worth asking about the penalty
Not sure about the former but agree on the latter. The former I attribute to the wedding but I would think that the penalty for violating a post restriction would be mentioned in DNA role pm.

I’ve never had a post restriction except in a game where the entire playerlist also had one but the closest I have come to that was the threat of mod killing me if I revealed a vig shot during the day phase in Boon’s BTDT.
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Post Post #8202 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:54 pm

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In post 8200, Bellaphant wrote:Who were you talking about in respt to em earlier, puppets?
I’m half asleep. so can you quote the specific post for me?
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Post Post #8203 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:56 pm

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In post 8189, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8169, Bellaphant wrote:They had a post restriction, although they seemed to have broken it.

Sorry, I shouldn't post at 3am, I briefly forgot masons! It's nice to know that Bella's sleepy gut was on the right track ;)
@taly, you asked about reads. My strongest scum read right now is still Johnny, I think I'm mellowing on bell, I need to see a lot more from best bird. I don't know how I feel about math but I thought his bbt point was at least interesting. My big read shift at the end of yesterday was that t bone was town, it's possible off the hook is too.

I don't know how to read professor drapion - yesterday I was scum with frog, and today their scum reads are weird. I also think the consistent push on CSF is ridiculous, as they are my strongest town read.

The klick replacement is still town. I think dancing puppets is town but their read on klick at the end of yesterday was garbage and looked opportunitistic in places.
I think he’s town so I don’t understand this?

I can't find what I said about you either but I was sure I said it!

Yeah, I was fine with the post restriction but not having a consequence/knowing it is weird.
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Post Post #8204 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:57 pm

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In post 8202, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8200, Bellaphant wrote:Who were you talking about in respt to em earlier, puppets?
I’m half asleep. so can you quote the specific post for me?
Also what do you mean exactly by “em”? Them or ?
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Post Post #8205 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:00 pm

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Response to me. I can't type and I'm not asleep ;)
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Post Post #8206 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:02 pm

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In post 8203, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 8189, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8169, Bellaphant wrote:They had a post restriction, although they seemed to have broken it.

Sorry, I shouldn't post at 3am, I briefly forgot masons! It's nice to know that Bella's sleepy gut was on the right track ;)
@taly, you asked about reads. My strongest scum read right now is still Johnny, I think I'm mellowing on bell, I need to see a lot more from best bird. I don't know how I feel about math but I thought his bbt point was at least interesting. My big read shift at the end of yesterday was that t bone was town, it's possible off the hook is too.

I don't know how to read professor drapion - yesterday I was scum with frog, and today their scum reads are weird. I also think the consistent push on CSF is ridiculous, as they are my strongest town read.

The klick replacement is still town. I think dancing puppets is town but their read on klick at the end of yesterday was garbage and looked opportunitistic in places.
I think he’s town so I don’t understand this?

I can't find what I said about you either but I was sure I said it!

Yeah, I was fine with the post restriction but not having a consequence/knowing it is weird.
Yeah, I probably have one of the best long term memories on the site, so I’m very sure of it but I got a headache trying to find that post, so I just gave up.

Yeah agree. It’s of course possible but what’s the point of having a restriction if you’re not informed of specific consequences?

But I also don’t see either RH9 or Ircher lying about it either, so really don’t know what to make of that?
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Post Post #8207 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:06 pm

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In post 8205, Bellaphant wrote:Response to me. I can't type and I'm not asleep ;)
Lol okay, I’m still not sure which post you’re referring to? The one about the post restriction? DNA=C & G.
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Post Post #8208 (ISO) » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:29 pm

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In post 8203, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 8189, Dancing Puppets wrote:
In post 8169, Bellaphant wrote:They had a post restriction, although they seemed to have broken it.

Sorry, I shouldn't post at 3am, I briefly forgot masons! It's nice to know that Bella's sleepy gut was on the right track ;)
@taly, you asked about reads. My strongest scum read right now is still Johnny, I think I'm mellowing on bell, I need to see a lot more from best bird. I don't know how I feel about math but I thought his bbt point was at least interesting. My big read shift at the end of yesterday was that t bone was town, it's possible off the hook is too.

I don't know how to read professor drapion - yesterday I was scum with frog, and today their scum reads are weird. I also think the consistent push on CSF is ridiculous, as they are my strongest town read.

The klick replacement is still town. I think dancing puppets is town but their read on klick at the end of yesterday was garbage and looked opportunitistic in places.
I think he’s town so I don’t understand this?

I can't find what I said about you either but I was sure I said it!

Yeah, I was fine with the post restriction but not having a consequence/knowing it is weird.
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Post Post #8209 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:30 am

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In post 7964, Bell wrote:
In post 7959, Cytosine and Guanine wrote:I'd support a Professor wagon, but I would need to check what Gaunine's thoughts are before committing to a vote.
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If this wasn't RH
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Explain the bolded please, Bell.
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Post Post #8210 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:58 am

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VOTE: Math

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Post Post #8211 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:13 am

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Didn't realise Frog was a rolecop. Was wondering about the kills but that makes sense now.

I'll reiterate one more time - flooding thread is anti-town at the very least. So much info gets drowned out.
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Post Post #8212 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:16 am

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In post 7925, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Oh yeah I forgot I made this during the night:



So during the night I was also taking a look at my original slot owners reads.

Turns out both me and him got wolf vibes from Frog.

Although he TR’ed CSF/Dunn/T-Bone, I however have not arrived there as I see them all as potential wolves.

His main wolf reads though were RCE and Bell.
So I’ll stick with my Bell Wolf Read.

Something I also noticed from reading my previous slot owners ISO is that Malcolm called out my slow owners reads despite them already claiming they copied most of it from Rad.
So that seems like potential scum motivation from Malcolm on my slot.



Even though Cephrir flipped town I still like the way Rad voted them. Also since my original slot owner town read Rad as well I’ll definitely keep Rad in my Townreads.
Uhhh, frog scumread me for 1 singular page because I didn't explain why I moved my vote to ceph.

I think like half of your poe are town though. Math can stay in your poe though I'm fine with that.
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Post Post #8213 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:24 am

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In post 7943, Taly wrote:> RCE you were very similar in the regard of changing votes off little provocation, I want you to justify your votes.
I wanted someone to die. It didn't matter who, I thought you were both town so whoever had more votes. Only reason I voted ceph was to end the day.

With cephs flip in mind Klick's slot is pretty nearly locktown for me. I kind of want to say Nancy hydra looks good in the sense they seem uninformed. I don't see them approaching Ceph the way they did in the gladiate if they already KNOW that Ceph is town. Unfortunately you don't get the same courtesy because scumreading Ceph doesn't make sense from your pov. You were already on the hot seat, there is no reason for Scum!Ceph to stick their neck out for an elim that was probably going to happen anyway. I think Like pointed this out.

You, if you are town, should be challenging the slots that Ceph polled for the gladiate. Tbone in particular, idk who else Ceph pinged for their reads. Unless you truly truly believe johnny is town.
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Post Post #8214 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:27 am

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In post 7950, T-Bone wrote:My gut is that this makes the Professor look a lot worse (especially since there is like zero reevaluations after a bunch of incorrect reads in flips), but also I doubt the Dunn kill is about them. I'm running with the assumption that Dunn was the factional kill and not Frog, otherwise the scumteam is playing 5D chess in which case good job.

@Taly because I said I would if Ceph/Frog flipped town. It's also a joke? What a weird thing to get hung up on. Sorry, I'm feeling relatively good because three of my town reads were correct, makes me feel like I have good read on the game after all, something among other things at the end of day 1, I was doubting.
Professor is highly likely town. Redirect.
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Post Post #8215 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:33 am

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In post 7994, T-Bone wrote:Well with that info in mind I think it's worth discussing....

DNA posted 101 words by my count. I checked myself five times. I did not include signatures, and I counted the number strings as one word each. I must have a major Blindspot to keep finding an extra word. It's possible. So some other players should count their ISO when they get a moment.
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Post Post #8216 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:34 am

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VOTE: math

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Post Post #8217 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:35 am

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whats everyone arguing abt lately

why even argue when mathblades CLEARLY SCUM
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Post Post #8218 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:49 am

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In post 8143, Mislim Bait wrote:
In post 7864, Save The Dragons wrote:
Flavoryou may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.3113 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, Malakittens, Lukewarm, T-Bone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets, Mathblade, RCEnigma, Bell)
7 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, Roden, Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

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Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Mathblade V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me
So three of taly's voters flip town
1 is mason and 1 is klick which is the person I subbed for and know that is town.
any reason why we shouldn't speed lunch taly here?
I'll try to read malcolm and cat

There overall reaction to them being the top wagon was quite Townie IMO, as well as their opinion as Frog and reaction to their Gladiate.
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Post Post #8219 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:50 am

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In post 8146, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Taly

Lunch

Frog might have been right on Enchant here, I’ll actually throw them in my wolf PoE now.
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Post Post #8220 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:51 am

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In post 8196, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 8038, Rad wrote:Mod makes up post limitation as a game design element and ignores it? I don't buy it.

Player gets limitation and doesn't care what happens if they go over? I don't buy it.

isn't a naked quote, it's a quote from one of the hydra's players who accidentally posted under the wrong account. If the player didn't accidentally post it under the wrong account, it would have been a 2 word post under the C&G account.

Fake post restriction.

VOTE: Cytosine and Guanine

Also Corwin must not have asked C&G about the penalty either. Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to ask if you're town and want to know what happens if they go over it. I mean why not? That's not something we want them explaining when they're restricted to 100 words. But Corwin/Math could have easily found out if they cared and let us all know.
This vote is also very lazy from Rad. I understand the desire to check C&G complied with the posting limit but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some rather simple ways around it they exploited if they appear to be slightly over. I simply refuse to believe a slot would fake a 100-post restriction and then end up accidentally going over by two or three words, and I think any pushes there today could potentially be lazier scum trying to avoid going for a contentious target.
I mean I brought it up as one of the first things I posted about on Day 1. It's not like the concern came out of nowhere. Don't give Rad credit here, I also brought it up today.
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Post Post #8221 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:52 am

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In post 8214, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 7950, T-Bone wrote:My gut is that this makes the Professor look a lot worse (especially since there is like zero reevaluations after a bunch of incorrect reads in flips), but also I doubt the Dunn kill is about them. I'm running with the assumption that Dunn was the factional kill and not Frog, otherwise the scumteam is playing 5D chess in which case good job.

@Taly because I said I would if Ceph/Frog flipped town. It's also a joke? What a weird thing to get hung up on. Sorry, I'm feeling relatively good because three of my town reads were correct, makes me feel like I have good read on the game after all, something among other things at the end of day 1, I was doubting.
Professor is highly likely town. Redirect.
Is your theory that bad reads equals town cause uninformed?
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Post Post #8222 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:53 am

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For the record that thought has crossed my mind.
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Post Post #8223 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:54 am

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In post 8170, MalcolmTucker wrote:Reading back some of Rad's posts from later D1 and they feel incredibly scummy.

Lot of their posts toward the end feel indecisive in a way that's quite unnatural, as if they were unsure where to lean. Manage to go from voting Taly, to advocating for no elimination, to then voting out Ceph in a relatively short space of time. The progression doesn't work for me as being from town.

I originally wolf read Rad but their post about Cephrir felt like a genuine thought rather then scum having an excuse to vote somewhere.


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Post Post #8224 (ISO) » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:59 am

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In post 8164, Mislim Bait wrote:
In post 8153, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 8143, Mislim Bait wrote:
In post 7864, Save The Dragons wrote:
Flavoryou may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.3113 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, Malakittens, Lukewarm, T-Bone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets, Mathblade, RCEnigma, Bell)
7 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, Roden, Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

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Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Mathblade V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me
So three of taly's voters flip town
1 is mason and 1 is klick which is the person I subbed for and know that is town.
any reason why we shouldn't speed lunch taly here?
I'll try to read malcolm and cat

You may have missed that there was a gladiate between Ceph and Taly day 1, which kinda messes with this line of thinking imo
thats fair
although from a quick skim of taly's iso.
they didnt have an initial read on ceph before the gladiate and their case against ceph centered around the whole gladiate thing being scum motivated.
This could probably be excused due to it being 1v1 but still a bit of bad look.
will look forward to how they will bounce back today after they were wrong on their reads.
It kind of did look wolf motivated though as me and frog were trying to start up a Math wagon just before the Gladiate.
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