LOST (Game Over)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mine

[Bell]

1. Don't remove yourself from the list.
2. Don't do this.
3. Elaborate on how Mathblade has made the pool smaller. Elaborate on the reasoning why MB might want to go attack BBT when they know in the day coming in they're going to be wagoned.
4. Why are you removing C&G by extension?
5.
a. Sure. Possibly wrong but sure.
b. Scum team can alter Rad's decision making. so don't really get it. It depends on how assertive Rad is, though I also think it was a relatively plain kill. Dunn was participating more than either Dwlee or Roden and likely was going to confirm himself. It wasn't a very paranoid or controversial kill in my opinion. Though I think they would have been better off killing the masons. But they don't have to deal with the mason's in thread. While they would have with Dunn.
c. A mystery novel take.
6. This is really assuming that the scum team wanted to gamble on Dunn not being able to confirm himself. It might point to them not having a role blocker role tho. I wouldn't know for sure.

[Rad]

Spoiler:

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Taly
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
ProfessorDrapion
Roden
Rad
Mathblade
RCEnigma
Enchant
Dwlee99
Bellaphant
Mislim Bait
Bell
JohnnyFarrar
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
T-Bone
Cat Scratch Fever
Lukewarm
Best Bird

So first I'm going to remove myself, Roden, and Dweelee from the list because duh

Spoiler:

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Taly
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
ProfessorDrapion
Rad
Mathblade
RCEnigma
Enchant
Bellaphant
Mislim Bait
Bell
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
T-Bone
Cat Scratch Fever
Lukewarm
Best Bird

Next I'll remove Tbone because he's my hood buddy and Luke because idk why scum Luke kills Dunn rather than keeping the suss on him all day

Spoiler:

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Taly
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
ProfessorDrapion
Rad
Mathblade
RCEnigma
Enchant
Bellaphant
Mislim Bait
Bell
Cytosine and Guanine (Ircher and RH9)
Cat Scratch Fever
Best Bird

Next I get rid of Math (and by extension c&g), because I don't think scum math makes the universal scumread POE smaller when he's so clearly on the chopping block

Spoiler:

BlueBloodedToffee
Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
Taly
PookyTheMagicalBear
MalcolmTucker
Off the Hook (Gamma Emerald and Marcistar)
ProfessorDrapion
Rad
RCEnigma
Enchant
Bellaphant
Mislim Bait
Bell
Cat Scratch Fever
Best Bird

From here I'm looking at people I think would be

more

concerned with a conftown Dunn than they would be about killing literally anyone else.

Those people are:

Taly

- Dunn was pushing them

before

the ceph glad

Rad

- Strikes me as paranoid, might not have landed on FN

Drapion

- had been admonished by Dunn several times for clogging up the thread

People I'm less likely to vote for in this POE:

Mal

- being partnered with Luke, I don't see why scum Mal wouldn't just let Luke spin his wheels in Dunn's direction all day. This isn't a strong aversion to a vote because maybe he WOULD be worried about Dunn being confirmed? No way to tell.

BBT / Mala

- same as math but to a lesser extent because I don't know them, do they take a potential mislim off the table when they almost got run up yesterday? My instinct says prolly not

Oh Johnny </3

Can you elaborate on your thoughts regarding scum!me please? I'm paranoid how, with regards to Dunn? I think Dunn came across as having a pretty steady town read of me, yeah? Is scum!Rad paranoid of his PR or something? Why is scum!Rad more paranoid about an unknown town PR than any other potential scum player?

[Off The Hook]

rad help me

[Rad]

If Dunn was a FN, would his action take place before he gets killed by mafia?

[Lukewarm]

So my thought is we're all assuming a lot about Dunn. Like I was still ready to push him today.

My point is that you are crossing off people as scum suspects because you are assuming that the scum would have valued keeping him as a miselim.

But I think that it is perfectly plausible to think that the scum team thought he was a friendly neighbor. Multiple people suggested it. I actually did not think that he was a friendly neighbor until he suggested that Frog rolecop him. But once he did, it made me feel like he had a role whose very name would make us think that he was town. That was when I switched to thinking it really was a FN, because that Role name necessitates the player being town.

[Rad]

rad help me

what's up?

[Off The Hook]

i dont know what to do

i dont know what to think

[Lukewarm]

If Dunn was a FN, would his action take place before he gets killed by mafia?

I believe that the standard resolution order would result in the Friendly Neighbor firing, and then the mafia kill. Nightkills are actually pretty late in the list for the NAR.

[Rad]

If Dunn was a FN, would his action take place before he gets killed by mafia?

I believe that the standard resolution order would result in the Friendly Neighbor firing, and then the mafia kill. Nightkills are actually pretty late in the list for the NAR.

That's what I was thinking. I can't imagine Dunn not firing it at you though Luke. I assume you didn't get a message because you haven't announced it.

So if that's the case... does it mean he wasn't FN? I mean if he was FN, he 100% fires it at Luke right, given that back and forth??

Did anyone here get a mod message about Dunn being FN? No way he fires it at Frog right?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Is scum!Rad paranoid of his PR or something? Why is scum!Rad more paranoid about an unknown town PR than any other potential scum player?

Yes, PR paranoia. You give off that vibe more than the average player. To me. We're you not the one who posited that maybe we're all town? Might've been a joke but that the idea occurred to you says your mind can go to extremes

[Rad]

Is scum!Rad paranoid of his PR or something? Why is scum!Rad more paranoid about an unknown town PR than any other potential scum player?

Yes, PR paranoia. You give off that vibe more than the average player. To me. We're you not the one who posited that maybe we're all town? Might've been a joke but that the idea occurred to you says your mind can go to extremes

Nah Frog came up with that idea, and my game designer wannabe brain thought it was fucking awesome.

[T-Bone]

I think most of us read Dunn as claiming friendly neighbor, but that wasn't his role, we would have heard from someone by now.

[Rad]

Is scum!Rad paranoid of his PR or something? Why is scum!Rad more paranoid about an unknown town PR than any other potential scum player?

Yes, PR paranoia. You give off that vibe more than the average player. To me. We're you not the one who posited that maybe we're all town? Might've been a joke but that the idea occurred to you says your mind can go to extremes

I'm just not following how this logic points to scum!Rad.

scum!Rad is paranoid of any PR
scum!Rad pushes his team to kill the PR
scum kills Dunn

Like, why wouldn't scum team just kill PR regardless of how paranoid you think scum!Rad is or isn't? How does whatever paranoia you're reading from me come into play as proof that I'm scum?

[Cytosine and Guanine]

That you start doing dissonance really really hard the moment your slot faces a little bit of pressure feels like an intentional strategy to deflect it.

Meh I don't read dissonance as scummy really. Like sure, in theory, hydra would be synced up and resolve disagreements privately, but that can be hard to do, and some of us just like to post without going through the extra steps. (It's a bad habit perhaps, but it is also common.)
~Cytosine

[JohnnyFarrar]

1. Don't remove yourself from the list.
2. Don't do this.
3. Elaborate on how Mathblade has made the pool smaller. Elaborate on the reasoning why MB might want to go attack BBT when they know in the day coming in they're going to be wagoned.
4. Why are you removing C&G by extension?
5.
a. Sure. Possibly wrong but sure.
b. Scum team can alter Rad's decision making. so don't really get it. It depends on how assertive Rad is, though I also think it was a relatively plain kill. Dunn was participating more than either Dwlee or Roden and likely was going to confirm himself. It wasn't a very paranoid or controversial kill in my opinion. Though I think they would have been better off killing the masons. But they don't have to deal with the mason's in thread. While they would have with Dunn.
c. A mystery novel take.
6. This is really assuming that the scum team wanted to gamble on Dunn not being able to confirm himself. It might point to them not having a role blocker role tho. I wouldn't know for sure.

1. Well I did
2. Why not?
3. I guess I just don't trust the consensus about the FN and how confirmed he would have been? I thought Dunn was scummy and would have pushed him as such. Math's light VCA makes sense pointing to BBT, even if I think BBT is a bad direction today
4. I think Math and C&G are on the same team based on Math's trust level in them
5a. Cool
B. Once again I didn't have a lot of faith in whatever Dunn's role was. Maybe I'm decidedly

not

paranoid in that regard?
C. I love mystery novels
6. Right, scum role blocker is a possibility. Or Dunn targeted scum! The possibilities are endless

[Cytosine and Guanine]

Does anyone think that there is still a benefit for me to keep my neighbor unmentioned?


Pedit: I think that C+G should reach out to the mod, see what the effect of breaking the limit is/was, and see if it is gonna happen now that it has been revealed, and report back.

STD literally got married over the night phase, so I could see him missing it.

Yeah I mean, sure, he could have missed it. As a wannabe game designer myself, if I made that up I'd be all over counting those words and punishing. Do I do that when it overlaps with my WEDDING? Maybe not lol.

That's only 1 point in the suspicion here though.

Can you talk about the other reasons you suspect us?
~Cytosine

[JohnnyFarrar]

Is scum!Rad paranoid of his PR or something? Why is scum!Rad more paranoid about an unknown town PR than any other potential scum player?

Yes, PR paranoia. You give off that vibe more than the average player. To me. We're you not the one who posited that maybe we're all town? Might've been a joke but that the idea occurred to you says your mind can go to extremes

I'm just not following how this logic points to scum!Rad.

scum!Rad is paranoid of any PR
scum!Rad pushes his team to kill the PR
scum kills Dunn

Like, why wouldn't scum team just kill PR regardless of how paranoid you think scum!Rad is or isn't? How does whatever paranoia you're reading from me come into play as proof that I'm scum?

This is the same thing I'm discussing with Bell, I just didn't have a lot of faith in Dunn's role being important or useful.

I guess you could argue I'm the outlier there and everyone else might've thought Dunn was a bigger deal than I did

[RCEnigma]

I think most of us read Dunn as claiming friendly neighbor, but that wasn't his role, we would have heard from someone by now.

Dunn could have been crumbing FV instead.
Dunn could have hit scum with either that aren’t claiming
Dunn could have sent to a JK’d target
Dunn could have been PGO (which also loosely fits with his crumb but I find it unlikely with math bringing up vig day 1 and then we end up with 2 town deaths by chance.

[Cytosine and Guanine]

Does it really matter what Dunnstral was?
~Cytosine

[RCEnigma]

That you start doing dissonance really really hard the moment your slot faces a little bit of pressure feels like an intentional strategy to deflect it.

Meh I don't read dissonance as scummy really. Like sure, in theory, hydra would be synced up and resolve disagreements privately, but that can be hard to do, and some of us just like to post without going through the extra steps. (It's a bad habit perhaps, but it is also common.)
~Cytosine

It’s common and always comes off scummy. People just literally don’t care how it affects the game.

[RCEnigma]

What Dunn was will make it easier to put the puzzle together yes.

[Cytosine and Guanine]

In what way? What puzzle are we solving that is aided by knowing Dunnstral's role?
~Cytosine

[RCEnigma]

Knowing the power that town has gives us an idea of the power that scum has. Helps us pick out what claims down the line do and don’t make sense. What seems fake. Like we are playing a game of mafia, for example.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I agree if someone got something from Dunn they should out