LOST (Game Over)

[Enchant]

Sisyphean pushes me to montain.

I am Rock.

[Rad]

Oh god Enchant tied it all back to the beginning. That deserves points. Will not vote Enchant this day.

[Enchant]

Actually idk probably having just one scumread when there's five mafs is not cool.

[Dancing Puppets]

Spoiler:

VOTE: Taly

Lunch

Flavor

you may only vote for Taly or Cephrir

Vote Count 1.31

13 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, Malakittens, Lukewarm, T-Bone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets, Mathblade, RCEnigma, Bell)
7 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, Roden, Cat Scratch Fever)

Not Voting (Cytosine and Guanine, Enchant, Bellaphant, BlueBloodedToffee, Dwlee99, Best Bird)

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-07-18 12:42:51)

Mod Notes

Replacing Klick
Mala on V/LA until the 16th
Titus V/LA
Best Bird V/LA
Taly V/LA
Lukewarm V/LA
Mathblade V/LA
Wedding week and new job expect less from me

So three of taly's voters flip town
1 is mason and 1 is klick which is the person I subbed for and know that is town.
any reason why we shouldn't speed lunch taly here?
I'll try to read malcolm and cat

There overall reaction to them being the top wagon was quite Townie IMO, as well as their opinion as Frog and reaction to their Gladiate.

VOTE: Taly

Lunch

Frog might have been right on Enchant here, I’ll actually throw them in my wolf PoE now.

Dafuq why are people still voting Taly again, they’re town. I’m won’t apologize for being too intense if this gains traction again. *smdh*

Enchant didn’t vote anyone in the gladiate but now he votes Taly?

VOTE: Taly

Lunch

Frog might have been right on Enchant here, I’ll actually throw them in my wolf PoE now.

Btw, I predicted this might happen to whom whichever survived out of Ceph/Taly, which was one of the many reasons I wanted a no lim.

VOTE: Mathblade

VOTE: Taly

Lunch

This is making me consider voting Math or Enchant.

Enchant has a tendency as scum to make it super obvious who his buddies are if either/both he and Math are scum here.

I reveal as Innocent Child

BRUH IT'S REAL

Is this something STD can confirm or are you trolling us?

Willing to go enchant. Less likely with math

Still agree with gamma hydra town.

Bbl

I sent a pm to the mods wrt to his IC claim, still waiting on an answer.

Why do you tr Math?

I reveal as Innocent Child

BRUH IT'S REAL

Is this something STD can confirm or are you trolling us?

VOTE: Mathblade

VOTE: Taly

Lunch

This is making me consider voting Math or Enchant.

Enchant has a tendency as scum to make it super obvious who his buddies are if either/both he and Math are scum here.

Enchant is typically hard to read either way but looking through their ISO I feel like there's even less content than usual given the number of posts?

I think unless STD can confirm Enchant being IC, he could well be scum here. He kept saying how he didn’t want a no lim but never voted for either Ceph or Taly.

Enchant could totally be scum here, but these are both odd reasons to think so

1- that was him fake claiming IC as a joke because he did not believe that the gladiate was real. Then being shocked that the gladiate was real. He is not an IC, and he was never seriously claiming one

2- Enchant is notorious for wanting the hammer. He has compared himself to not mafia in that way. He was clearly waiting to hammer either of taly/ceph.

Oh so I wasted time pming the mods then. Yeah, you could be right about that then. His Taly vote right after CSF Math vote looks suss af.

You guys are absolute suckers for taking Enchant's IC claim even semi-seriously.

Yeah STD would have already confirmed it if real.

Enchant was really super townie in Terminator, so could well be scum here.

I am interested in VCA from Titus given our three flips.

Flip BBT is my initial look. Check my posts for today.

~Titus

Tell me more about this

If I am wrong on you, then we have deep wolves dividing the game and three town wagoned for no reason D1. The kill on Dunn makes little sense if you're not scum.

The push on Math is easy. While he could be scum, it's awfully convienent for scum to push the sick guy who votes them. Doubly so when it's Math.

~Titus

Idk whether he is or not. Main thing that pinged me was Enchant’s Taly vote.

VOTE: Enchant

So I’m going to do this for now.

I just wanted to prove that Enchant’s reasoning for sr us is total bs.

[Enchant]

Can someone say what's under spoiler, i am bad on understanding anything which have more than 50 words.

[Bell]

10 words or less is my motto.
They showed they shaded you after you voted Taly the first time.
Repeatedly.
So you were even factually incorrect.
They can sue you for not properly confirming the authenticity of your remarks you know.
You're going to inaccuracy jail.

[Dancing Puppets]

Can someone say what's under spoiler, i am bad on understanding anything which have more than 50 words.

I’m saying that you’re reasoning for sr us is false. If you read those quotes, you will notice that I initially believed your IC fakeclaim and even went so far as to pm the mods about it. Why would I even bother doing that in a game with only alignment flips?

It was only then that I sussed you for your Taly vote.

[Dancing Puppets]

10 words or less is my motto.
They showed they shaded you after you voted Taly the first time.
Repeatedly.
So you were even factually incorrect.
They can sue you for not properly confirming the authenticity of your remarks you know.
You're going to inaccuracy jail.

Bell have you seriously considered doing stand up for a living?

[Enchant]

Can someone say what's under spoiler, i am bad on understanding anything which have more than 50 words.

I’m saying that you’re reasoning for sr us is false. If you read those quotes, you will notice that I initially believed your IC fakeclaim and even went so far as to pm the mods about it. Why would I even bother doing that in a game with only alignment flips?

It was only then that I sussed you for your Taly vote.

Ah.

Hm.........................................................

[Enchant]

I broke help

[Rad]

@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?

[Lukewarm]

@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?

You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol

[Lukewarm]

I think enchant might be scum, but I also find his posts enjoyable to read.

They spark joy.

[Rad]

@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?

You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol

I do!

I also read him town and would like to hear his thoughts about those posts

[Rad]

For some context Luke, I feel similar about both you and T-Bone as you feel about T-Bone. I'd like to get some more opinions to help round out my reads, and hey, if Bell's scum that answer could be useful as well.

It doesn't have to be me trying to convince Bell that I'm town with your and T-Bone's endorsement, ya know?

[Rad]

You know what I really like about Johnny still? This catch:

Rad - Strikes me as paranoid

Yeah he's right. But it's a town paranoia, not a scum one. Does scum!Johnny read that deeply into me to catch paranoia? Has it really been obvious? I doubt it, but he nails it anyway?

[Lukewarm]

Wdm my logic is bad.

Mafia wants to kill me, but doesh't want to be "first" to give reasons to this.

Why does mafia want to kill you out of all people?
And if your talking about execution like, your not really a priority target for mafia, if anything I’m a priority target for mafia in both ways.

I think his point here is specifically about the elimination.

If he is town, then scum almost certainly have him down as someone who can be miseliminated.

Because i am town duh, everyone simple shrug off my death and say i deserved it.

But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.

"Who can blame you for suspecting enchant, it's enchant!"

Kinda thing.

I actually found this series of posts pretty insightful and self aware of how he is recieved/ reacted to in games.

But also, in an abstract way that feels like it is something he has thought about across a series of games, and is not a This Game Thought, so it is not an alignment indicative thought.

Maybe it is alignment indicative that he choose to share it here and now. But if that were true, I have no idea where it would point to

[Lukewarm]

For some context Luke, I feel similar about both you and T-Bone as you feel about T-Bone. I'd like to get some more opinions to help round out my reads, and hey, if Bell's scum that answer could be useful as well.

It doesn't have to be me trying to convince Bell that I'm town with your and T-Bone's endorsement, ya know?

I thought I remembered you saying you thought Bell was town, and that read got even stronger when he said he scum read you.

So, that made me read that post as you attempting to sway Bell over you attempting to get a read on Bell.

If I was wrong, then just ignore me lol

[Rad]

But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.

Luke I think we're having similar thoughts about Enchant.

Here's my "easy targets" list from beginning of d2:

Math
BBT
Enchant
Johnny
PP/BB
Mala
PD

I've been specifically aware of any pushes on those people. Not that any of them are necessarily town that scum wants to push, but that if scum wants to push someone easily, it's likely a town in this list.

Have you been thinking something similar? I only ask because you pointed this out with Enchant so was wondering if you had a list like this.

[Rad]

For some context Luke, I feel similar about both you and T-Bone as you feel about T-Bone. I'd like to get some more opinions to help round out my reads, and hey, if Bell's scum that answer could be useful as well.

It doesn't have to be me trying to convince Bell that I'm town with your and T-Bone's endorsement, ya know?

I thought I remembered you saying you thought Bell was town, and that read got even stronger when he said he scum read you.

So, that made me read that post as you attempting to sway Bell over you attempting to get a read on Bell.

If I was wrong, then just ignore me lol

No you're right, I read Bell as town, and I reiterated that in 9113 which you probably missed right now because of my 9114 post immediately after.

[Lukewarm]

But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.

Luke I think we're having similar thoughts about Enchant.

Here's my "easy targets" list from beginning of d2:

Math
BBT
Enchant
Johnny
PP/BB
Mala
PD

I've been specifically aware of any pushes on those people. Not that any of them are necessarily town that scum wants to push, but that if scum wants to push someone easily, it's likely a town in this list.

Have you been thinking something similar? I only ask because you pointed this out with Enchant so was wondering if you had a list like this.

That is not a way that I think about the game, so no I don't have a list like this.

Even that comment about enchant, was not really a self driven thought based on how I think about the game, and more of me attempting to reword enchants point into an easily digestible wording. Both because I found his self insight interesting, and because Drap seemed to shoot it down without understanding.

Looking at your own list it kind of feels like you are conflating being widely scum read with being an easy push, and also an easy push with a safe push.

[T-Bone]

@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?

You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol

Spoilers we're both town reading him

[Rad]

@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?

You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol

Spoilers we're both town reading him

With specific/similar reasons which I'd like Bell to respond to.

[T-Bone]

But also, he would be a safe person for scum to push. Because no one is ever blamed for his miselim in any game he is miseliminated in.

Luke I think we're having similar thoughts about Enchant.

Here's my "easy targets" list from beginning of d2:

Math
BBT
Enchant
Johnny
PP/BB
Mala
PD

I've been specifically aware of any pushes on those people. Not that any of them are necessarily town that scum wants to push, but that if scum wants to push someone easily, it's likely a town in this list.

Have you been thinking something similar? I only ask because you pointed this out with Enchant so was wondering if you had a list like this.

I just wanna say, I am literally having to work with Nancy here to get even one vote on Enchant so this is anything but easy.

[T-Bone]

@Bell what do you think about T-Bone's 8736 and Luke's 9072 with regards to their reads on me / descriptions of my play this game?

You do know that a single player scum reading you is okay right? Lol

Spoilers we're both town reading him

With specific/similar reasons which I'd like Bell to respond to.

I thought Luke thought I was scumreading you XD