Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[Alexcellent]

Snap. I was literally just looking at Shoshin's ISO.
Also Shoshin voted 5 people, none of which were Johnny.

There's also this in Johnny's ISO

i saw but didn't want to comment on shoshin until i was caught up, but *big sigh* at the replace of shoshin, i was p darn sure she was town and page 19 is just very very unpleasant to read

I vibe w/this

[Ausuka]

It was a large theme that supposedly followed normal guidelines

I think there's been stuff like loud mafia goon before???? Idk though I feel like the general trend would be "it doesn't work that way because no one would want it to work that way and it's stupid"

Pedit: To be fair I think everyone was townreading Shoshin there

[Alexcellent]

There were defs people pushing against Shoshin and I think she had a vote or two, I feel like StD and someone else was scum reading there but I'd need to go back and read again properly

[Gamma Emerald]

I was scumreading Shoshin for a time
Crescent might have been as well, I think she was

[marcistar]

shoshins town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote count 3.07

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-25 03:00:00).

yeet

Freedom[2]:

Datisi, Ausuka

JohnnyFarrar[2]:

Scamper, Alexcellent

Gamma Emerald[1]:

marcistar

marcistar[1]:

Gamma Emerald

not voting [2]:

JohnnyFarrar, Freedom

flavor

[Gamma Emerald]

vote count 3.07

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-25 03:00:00).

yeet

Freedom[2]:

Datisi, Ausuka

JohnnyFarrar[2]:

Scamper, Alexcellent

Gamma Emerald[1]:

marcistar

marcistar[1]:

Gamma Emerald

not voting [2]:

JohnnyFarrar, Freedom

v interesting gamestate

[Gamma Emerald]

shoshins town

vrej

[scamper]

i have some time now finally, but it's probably going to take me a little while to catch up still

[scamper]

having looked at freedom, yeah, he's really not offering anything in the way of analysis, like, at all and outside of mech spec and an inherited read from shoshin i dont have good reason to townread him

but at the same time, i feel like this is the 3rd? 4th? time johnny has shown up and done nothing except to promise he'll deliver more content later

so...

VOTE: JF

Thing is part of me is sort of starting to buy lazy town Johnny, but I should probably take a look at some other games of his. I don't know if he were scum if maybe he'd be trying harder or whatever. He's basically active lurking at this point.
I'd say if he still doesn't post something more soon I'll be joining the wagon.

my concern basically is that even if he IS town i think yeeting him is the best option today tbh

cuz, like, imagine if we vote out, say, freedom and he's town - do u want johnny around in a melo situation? i dont. hes basically not even playing anymore, is he going to just keep prod dodging then too?

[Datisi]

do u want johnny around in a melo situation? i dont. hes basically not even playing anymore, is he going to just keep prod dodging then too?

don't disagree with this, but how is this different than freedom and marci?

[scamper]

whys scamper subtly trying to divert the freedom wagon :rosejudge:

i dont particularly feel like voting freedom

i think their gameplay makes sense for them,

but i wont stand in the way of it :shrug:

what makes me pause is basically by logic their claim is v weird when all the other neighbors had additional roles. also the way ppl r acting makes me go hmm but thats a problem for a diff day

y do u have a problem with me starting a different wagon if you dont really like the freedom wagon??

[scamper]

do u want johnny around in a melo situation? i dont. hes basically not even playing anymore, is he going to just keep prod dodging then too?

don't disagree with this, but how is this different than freedom and marci?

i dont think theyre comparable? marci and freedom are at least remaining active (and i dont feel like marci is all that likely to be scum anymore...), this is like the third or fourth time jf has gone over a day without posting and he keeps promising to do things and then not doing anything

[Datisi]

they're making posts yeah, but i don't feel like they're Doing Anything which might as well be prodging

they at least didn't keep promising content ig

[JohnnyFarrar]

I've been prodded! I'm at an auto repair shop dealing with a.... situation but if I end up in this waiting room for a while I'll catch up now

[JohnnyFarrar]

- i would be scumreading johnny very hard right now based purely on his posts

Oof if I had a nickel

otoh im worried that, like, even if johnny is town hes just...going to keep not doing anything and that makes him a liability in ELO

Like this just comes from a place of you not liking my style, which is fine, but sounds a bit hypocritical when Marci is right there (no this is not a push on Marci)

i also think my read on freedom has grown really stale and i should prob revisit that

Is this where the freedom stuff starts

i also think my read on freedom has grown really stale and i should prob revisit that

i also think my read on freedom has grown really stale and i should prob revisit that

I'm very paranoid of Freedom because a lot of my town read there hinges on my feeling that Corwin was likely the only hood scum. I did feel that Shoshin was probably town but like, it's not based on anything remotely solid. Freedom's had very little actual contribution in a pro-town sense.

This is bananas to me just because scum in a hood with the traitor sounds wild. Like, really wild.

freedom, do you care at all about who gets killed today?

As I was reading Freedom's posts I agree they don't seem like they care much. I could see a townie with that attitude if they were pseudo conftown, tho

Because while my instinct is to omgus it I think I'm a really poor push for scum Gamma to make here.

I keep thinking this, and honestly it only makes sense to me if Gamma is trying to preserve this current POE upon their death. Like, gamma!scum wants to push and look solvey, but doesn't wanna spew any of our current top contenders town if they go down? That's thin, tho. Idk.

Woah wait where are the freedom votes coming from?

Basically I think his posts since replacing in have seemed frozen. He's around but I never get the sense he's trying to eliminate mafia

Do you disagree with my reasoning? Who should I be voting instead

I guess I see it. He's giving nice boy energy so I never thought to reexamine, because once again scum + traitor hood would be ridic

I should probably take a look at some other games of his

Did you ever do this?

do fuck all (sorry Johnny)

Is chill friend

everyone's already town reading him so he's just coasting

This is along the lines I was thinking

Ausuka; Scamper
Datisi
Gamma
Johnny; Marci; Freedom

Alex and I were once bitter rivals and now we have the same reads. Wtf.

[Ausuka]

This is bananas to me just because scum in a hood with the traitor sounds wild. Like, really wild.

In a game with an ascetic miller even night mailman, simple combined doctor voyeur and complex novice non consecutive night friendly neighbour, that's what you have an issue with?

[Ausuka]

Johnny I'm not super clear what your read on Freedom is? You seem to be like somewhat resistant to the idea he can be scum but also agree with Alex that he's one of the major scum candidates?

[JohnnyFarrar]

As for my own defense (if you wanna call it that) I can say I've been steadily getting busier over the past week or so and I'm genuinely sorry I can't dedicate as much time as I did d1.

My role, claimed as it is, has very little function at this point, unless you feel like having me test the VTs, so if we wanna vote me off I can see that being the play. I don't wanna get to Elo only for my play to be the reason town loses.

Marci is getting a huge botd from Aussie and Alex here, just blasting a Datisi scumread outta nowhere, and I don't understand their patience there?

Fully off an Alex vote. Won't do it. I follow the logic too much. My readslist is his reads list

Scamper is thinking outside the box, questioning the right reads and just being townie in general. I'd bet the game on Scamper town

Ausuka's shining beacon of towniness dimmed a little, but that was probably because of illness. I don't see any reason to vote there

Gamma I still think makes sense as scum based on that first wagon. Would be willing to vote but i'm also a sucker for genuine apologies and I like Gamma for coming clean about their attitude coming outta that last game. Idk. I'm a waffle.

Freedom is really... stale? Like I was ready to come in here and be like claimed townies that are townread sometimes lose their will to play, but then he started posting and it's all just... there? I'm underwhelmed. There's no smoking gun here but I could see scum not wanting to fuck with anything if our top wagons are off base rn

Datisi seems tired. I don't disagree with Marci here, I waz really feeling scum!Dats in my gut. Is it possible that they're taking credit for a vig that's not theirs? Could STD have killed Crez?

Marci seems like they're rolling dice to form their reads. I can't imagine why scum

would

do that, tho. It's just suboptimal play from both sides, not really sure how to proceed.

If there's not a scum between Dats, Marci and Freedom I'll be surprised. I think Dats and Marci as partners would be really fun.

PEdit - o hi Aus

[JohnnyFarrar]

This is bananas to me just because scum in a hood with the traitor sounds wild. Like, really wild.

In a game with an ascetic miller even night mailman, simple combined doctor voyeur and complex novice non consecutive night friendly neighbour, that's what you have an issue with?

This is true, idk why I'm getting stuck on it

[Ausuka]

Marci is getting a huge botd from Aussie and Alex here, just blasting a Datisi scumread outta nowhere, and I don't understand their patience there?

idk man marci is Marci she's just like that

[Ausuka]

if I tried to press her harder on the read she'd probably just be like "no fuck you lol"

[Datisi]

Datisi seems tired. I don't disagree with Marci here, I waz really feeling scum!Dats in my gut. Is it possible that they're taking credit for a vig that's not theirs? Could STD have killed Crez?

i was never claiming to have shot crez lmao

[Ausuka]

dats failed to shoot Alex because he's a nerd who doesn't know how to fire a gun properly

I feel like given mafia having daychat Johnny not knowing that might be towny???

or maybe he's just not reading the mafia PT either

[JohnnyFarrar]

Lol